posted June 04, 2007 01:05 AM         

what is in the air lately?

It facinates me how these reading threads always explode with posts. Curiosity?

Daisy,
Fayte has different perceptions.
She has the freedom to express them and she tries to do so respectfully. She cannot control, nor manipulate your reactions. That's of you. Please don't try to manipulate reactions from her is all.
Mutual respect.

posted June 04, 2007 09:24 PM         

But, thank you Love,

posted June 05, 2007 09:52 AM           

i want to leave my question and situation with just this one question:

posted June 07, 2007 08:42 PM         

I'm sorry you received this kind of censure for expressing yourself emotionally at an emotional time for you. I've had my own spats with other posters, and I know how you must have felt when you wrote those words. I see that your intention was to forgive, even despite the fact that the altercation was so recent. I think that is commendable.

Of course, it is less than ideal to speak of someone as being unrivalled in a particular vice, but I'm not going to hold you to a standard I cannot observe myself. I know what it is to feel wronged, and I see that you were overwhelmed with anger, and still trying so hard to think of forgiveness. I see that you are highly sensitive, and I have no desire to heap admonitions on you, call you immature, or make ironic remarks toward you while you are still in distress and trying to calm down.

Your comments were brief, they showed you were trying to forgive, and they came out of a personal altercation you had very recently... I feel greater sympathy towards you than towards those who composed their harsh words unemotionally, for no personal reason, but only to censure you abruptly and/or self-righteously at a time when you were already in pain and asking for help. Instead, I'd like to send you love, in hopes that it will speed your recovery, and assist in the release of anger, which is your stated intention.

I understood from your words that you would like to forgive fayte, whether she apologizes or not, but that you felt the apology would help. That is realistic. Who can honestly expect you to have perfect self-control, and be 100% responsible for your reactions? We are all hurt by hurtful words and healed by healing words, and none of us is fully centered in ourselves.

I know that fayte has a good heart. Like many of the people here, and people drawn to metaphysical interests in general, she is very firey and watery. It's not easy to understand the powerful reactions of firey and watery people, and we are often quick to censure them. These reactions are neither rational nor practical; they are just heartfelt expressions of an intense inner state, rashly articulated from a place of excitement, not peace. We easily lose sight of many things (things we know, and will remember later with a pang of remorse) when we are carried away with emotions and enthusiasms. This fault is so common, so human, I find it a little silly that we are still so critical of each other for these temporary losses of sobriety; whether it is fayte censuring you, you censuring fayte, or a half-dozen people on this thread censuring you for censuring fayte; or, for that matter, me censuring the half-dozen people on this thread for censuring you for censuring fayte for..... The irony makes my head spin. Gonna go sit down now, lol.

Love To You.

HSC

ps.
If you do decide to come back and try this again,
I'd be appreciative of a few words on one or more of the following topics.
((If not, I understand.))

I was told by one channel that I am linked to Saint Germain,
and another gave me the name of a guide named Samuel.
I later read that the prophet Samuel was an incarnation of Saint Germain.
I'm wondering if this is one guide or two.

Also, I'm told I have a guide who is very powerful and radiates a solar energy.
Is this a second or third guide, or are they all the same entity?

Can you share a message from my guides for me -
whatever is most appropriate for me at this time,
or, if you please, something about my love life?

Also, I have always felt a connection to angels,
and I had a very interesting dream lately involving angels (and one in particular).
Is there anything you can share with me about this?

Lastly, the name Alem-Almah (or Alem-Alema)
came to me when i asked for my true name,
and I looked it up and it is Hebrew -
actually, the masculine and feminine form for "a young religious scholar".
Can you tell me anything more about these words, or this name,
and how it relates to me?

posted June 07, 2007 11:23 PM         

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I never attacked Daisy Chain

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Okay. (I never said you did.)

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nor do I feel I owe her an apology.

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Okay. (I never said you did.)

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I never called her names

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Okay. (I never said you did.)

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nor did I censure her.

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I assumed you did. Although I never stated it directly, I implied it, and, for that, I apologize - whether you did censure her or not, it was still an assumption on my part, so, I'm sorry. I did imply the same was true of myself, although, to be fair, I was not assigning blame, and did not use the word in that sense for myself. Perhaps I used the wrong word for both of us. In any case, what I have a problem with is not correcting someone, but blaming them.

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I only made a suggestion concerning ethics.

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Okay. What was it and how did you make it?
Quote it exactly please, or tell me where to find it.

Also, did you say anything else,
after she called you those things?
If so, please quote.

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One of the definitions of "censure" is reprimand.

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Okay.

I was thinking along these lines:

censure: to find fault with and criticize as blameworthy

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Do you think reprimanding someone for name-calling is appropriate or not??

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It's all in how you do it.

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Do you think defending oneself from character-assault or defamation is proper or not??

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Depends how you do it.

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Narrow-mindedness and thinking one's own path and one's own feelings are the only "right" behavior to the point of assaulting others should not be encouraged at LL, and I will speak out against it whenever I come in contact with it.

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I know you will,
and that is one thing I admire about you, fayte.
I encourage you to keep up the good work.

But it is all in how you do it.

All I'm saying is that two wrongs do not make a right.

I admit that I am ignorant of how this originated,
and what your part in it was,
but it was not my intention to speak of that;
there was a larger point I was trying to make,
and it had less to do with "who started it"
than "who is perpetuating it".

I did assume there were harsh words on both sides,
and, again, I apologize for that.

posted June 07, 2007 11:27 PM         

well, no one was perpetuating anything, but I'm glad to see your post to Fayte, Stephen.

will let you guys work it out.

posted June 07, 2007 11:28 PM         

I apologized for assuming and implying that Fayte provoked DC's reaction. But I stand by the rest of what I said, which is the great bulk of what I said.

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Actually Fayte's Watery/Airy

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Fayte's Moon is Conjunct Mars

posted June 07, 2007 11:38 PM         

But just so there will hopefully be no more of these confusions;
I am posting what I was writing as you and Lia posted.
HSC

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I know that fayte has a good heart. Like many of the people here, and people drawn to metaphysical interests in general, she is very firey and watery. It's not easy to understand the powerful reactions of firey and watery people, and we are often quick to censure them. These reactions are neither rational nor practical; they are just heartfelt expressions of an intense inner state, rashly articulated from a place of excitement, not peace. We easily lose sight of many things (things we know, and will remember later with a pang of remorse) when we are carried away with emotions and enthusiasms.

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I admit that I am ignorant of how this originated,
and what your part in it was,
but it was not my intention to speak of that;
there was a larger point I was trying to make,
and it had less to do with "who started it"
than "who is perpetuating it".

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posted June 07, 2007 11:45 PM         

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I apologized for assuming and implying that Fayte provoked DC's reaction. But I stand by the rest of what I said, which is the great bulk of what I said.

quote:Actually Fayte's Watery/Airy

Fayte's Moon is Conjunct Mars

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I do thank you however for your apologies.

Lia
Thank you dear Lady!{{{HUGS}}}

OK.
I am going now.
Carry on as you all wish.

posted June 07, 2007 11:46 PM         

Wouldn't her Aquarius influence be heightened by any conjunction of it in her chart? Although, Moon/Mars aspect would still have its influence, although more stubtly pronounced for being in a detatched sign? Just my thoughts anyway, that astrological energies mingle and either soften energies or ignite them.

posted June 08, 2007 12:05 AM         

In attempting to defend your good name,
you have just used the very tone to which I am objecting in the first place.

You may have been innocent in the affore mentioned cases,
but the words you use here are not kind,
so, I guess I may as well renew my objections.

As long as you take this disrespectful tone,
I will not respond to the points you make,
for they are all beside the point.

All our charts are complex.
I dont see anything wrong with commenting on your chart.

Since you mentioned it,
I think your Cappy Ascendant and Sun/Saturn
encourages the rigid disciplinarian role,
almost as often as it imbues you with ethics and good sense.

Lia,

According to the Edgar Cayce readings,
the aspects have much greater significance than the signs.
A conjunction between mars and the moon is many things,
but it is not especially detached, even in Aquarius.
And, in the 1st house, well, now, thats fire and water for you.

posted June 08, 2007 12:11 AM         

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You may have been innocent in the affore mentioned cases,
but the words you use here are not kind,
so, I guess I may as well renew my objections.

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As long as you take this disrespectful tone,
I will not respond to the points you make,
for they are all beside the point.

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posted June 08, 2007 03:02 AM         

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The ether is bubbling over, a festival of lights and sounds is ripping into our consciousness, my guides are telling me. But this is quite a lot of energy I feel, that many of us this past few days, the more sensitive ones are full of this spirit, and it is difficult to contain. When the earth tilts towards extremes the magnetic pole lines up and channels in strange energies, this is why the summer and winter solstices are such sacred times...these are the times when our realm, the paper between is the most thin, and may of us as the 21st of June comes forth may feel this energy. This is a special time in the ether right now, I don't know exaclty what, my guides are telling me that there has been a great loss, and that they celebrate this loss with a great gathering with lots of merry making, but that the conflict between loss and joy can be very confusing for us at this lower vibration. For those that are channelers of other planes this can be very trying, especially when you don't know what is going on, this is why it is so important to meditate on your guides and allow them to whisper their secrets unto you! That way we know that the confusion is not just us, but something else interfering. right now it is a time of joy and solemnity, and this contrast when mixed together can craete a great anxiety, we must heal the schism through manifesting god love energy, it is a good time to remember someone who has died and take joy in their life and the memories that you have! Let us please all channel the angel of mercy, his energy is very accessible, and have mercy on one another....please if the energy can clear here I can continue with ligth and magic, allowing my guides to tell me of others guides, to help them on their journey?
I see that many people are asking about lovers and the opposite sex, did you know that often when you are attracted to someone, it is often one of your guides or spirits that is attracted to one of their guides or spirits? yes, this is a very mystical sort of attraction that can happen quite often, and will often feel fated or meant to be. Why do you feel like you've always known this person? Probably because one of your guides knows one of his or her guides! Often times, and I don't mean to scare anyone, someone may have a dark presence assocaited with them, and someone elses guide may have a mission of banishing it back into one of the darker planes! Yes these relationships can be VERY intense, there is a cosmic war going on without your awareness!

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dear Daisy Chain ~

you have such refreshing, uplifitng energy. i love that you share your very unique and inspiring perspective here. please do continue with your light and magic!