posted June 01, 2011 02:44 PM            

Wherever Pallas falls in the birthchart shows the area of life where these talents are likely to be found and in what capacity.

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artistic, arts, biotechnology, confidence, conflict, creative, daughter, genetics, healing, horses, immune system, injustice, intelligence, intuition, justice, learning, legal battles, logic, politics, science, strategy, strength, wisdom

posted June 01, 2011 02:46 PM            

Pallas Athene Pallas Athene:
The warrior queen, the principle of creative intelligence and wisdom. Athene (Minerva to the Romans) was born from the head of Zeus (Jupiter), thus being the only Olympian to have been born without a mother—although he had actually swallowed her mother, Metis (wisdom), so that she could not bear a son who would supplant him as he had supplanted his father, Kronos (Saturn). Representing divine knowledge, or wisdom, she stands for feminine expression of the divine nous, or perfect understanding. She also rules the relations between fathers and daughters, indeed all incestuous and abusive relationships where an imbalance of power must be righted. It is interesting that Pallas in the natal chart indicates the nature of our abilitiy to recognize and implement patterns, arrangements and rearrangements; notably (though of course, rarely) she is also held to be significant in transgender, intersex and transsexual experience. It's worth noting that in many ancient cultures and tribal societies, a third gender was accepted and found a valued place, for example, as Gallæ, the castrated, eunuch priestesses of the goddess Cybele, known in Rome as the Mater Deum Magna, the Great Mother of the Gods—and everything else!

Pallas was the second asteroid to be discovered, by Heinrich Olbers on March 28, 1802. A title for Athene the Greek goddess of wisdom, Pallas means maiden. Pallas, daughter of Triton, was Athene's childhood friend in Libya, home of the Amazons. In a mock battle, Athene accidentally killed her; in her grief she swore to take on her name, placing it ahead of her own. She carved a statue, the Palladium, which Zeus later cast to earth; it was taken up by the Trojans, later to be stolen by Odysseus, removing the protection of the goddess for Troy. She was the goddess of war, wisdom and culture—patroness of the civilized arts: pottery, sculpture, weaving, architecture and animal husbandry. Pallas, the wise, female warrior, gives meaning and direction to the struggles of women to be free from the oppressive domination of the masculine forces.
"Astrologically Pallas Athene describes how we face the issues of learning, creativity, the arts, politics, healing, alienation from relationships, competition, and the fears of success." (99)

posted June 01, 2011 07:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Pallas seems like the wise woman. I guess it represents father -daughter love too.
Perhap,it represents the wise woman in the tribe in older times.
Can you relate to ANY of this?
The descriptions were kind of amorphous,I know lol

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posted June 01, 2011 07:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Pallas or Pallas Athena or Pallas Athene, also known as Minerva, is associated with wisdom and intuition. Brought in with these attributes are those of logic and applied strategy. It is also creative of original thought, showing artistic ability. Pallas also rules the relationship between father and daughter. It is also representative of the Warrior Woman and the fight to escape from oppressive male domination. On the negative side, it also rules such things as incest and abuse. It is also concerned with science, the code of genetics and with biotechnology.

Wherever Pallas falls in the birthchart shows the area of life where these talents are likely to be found and in what capacity.

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artistic, arts, biotechnology, confidence, conflict, creative, daughter, genetics, healing, horses, immune system, injustice, intelligence, intuition, justice, learning, legal battles, logic, politics, science, strategy, strength, wisdom

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Yes, I absolutely relate to this (as amorphous as it is)! lol

I'm not sure about the logical thinking part... (I have no common sense whatsoever) , but I'm very creative and my intellect has always been a strong core aspect of my personality. If I had nothing else, I would have my intellect, and that is something that I am extremely grateful for. Ever since I was a child, I've been inquisitive about the world around me (9th house emphasis again). Although I'm not particularly blessed with the technical side of the brain (Math and I are sworn enemies), creativity and imagination I've always had in abundant supply. I've (at least) dabbled in virtually every artistic medium there is. I paint, draw, sing, dance, write, take photographs, cook, and have even done some "martial" arts and sculpting in the past. (Those are just the ones I can name off the top of my head). That said, I do take great interest and am absolutely fascinated by certain sciences, of course, because they help me to discover how the world works. When I was just older than a toddler I used to get books on astronomy and paleontology from the library. Astronomy has always been a great love of mine, and if not for my Math abilities (or lack there of), I would choose astronomy as my profession. Out of this love also, was born my interest in astrology.

posted June 01, 2011 08:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Pallas Athene Pallas Athene:
The warrior queen, the principle of creative intelligence and wisdom. Athene (Minerva to the Romans) was born from the head of Zeus (Jupiter), thus being the only Olympian to have been born without a mother—although he had actually swallowed her mother, Metis (wisdom), so that she could not bear a son who would supplant him as he had supplanted his father, Kronos (Saturn). Representing divine knowledge, or wisdom, she stands for feminine expression of the divine nous, or perfect understanding. She also rules the relations between fathers and daughters, indeed all incestuous and abusive relationships where an imbalance of power must be righted. It is interesting that Pallas in the natal chart indicates the nature of our abilitiy to recognize and implement patterns, arrangements and rearrangements; notably (though of course, rarely) she is also held to be significant in transgender, intersex and transsexual experience. It's worth noting that in many ancient cultures and tribal societies, a third gender was accepted and found a valued place, for example, as Gallæ, the castrated, eunuch priestesses of the goddess Cybele, known in Rome as the Mater Deum Magna, the Great Mother of the Gods—and everything else!

Pallas was the second asteroid to be discovered, by Heinrich Olbers on March 28, 1802. A title for Athene the Greek goddess of wisdom, Pallas means maiden. Pallas, daughter of Triton, was Athene's childhood friend in Libya, home of the Amazons. In a mock battle, Athene accidentally killed her; in her grief she swore to take on her name, placing it ahead of her own. She carved a statue, the Palladium, which Zeus later cast to earth; it was taken up by the Trojans, later to be stolen by Odysseus, removing the protection of the goddess for Troy. She was the goddess of war, wisdom and culture—patroness of the civilized arts: pottery, sculpture, weaving, architecture and animal husbandry. Pallas, the wise, female warrior, gives meaning and direction to the struggles of women to be free from the oppressive domination of the masculine forces.
"Astrologically Pallas Athene describes how we face the issues of learning, creativity, the arts, politics, healing, alienation from relationships, competition, and the fears of success." (99)

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posted June 01, 2011 10:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You are getting me in to the "female asteroids". I wonder what Juno conjunct Pluto means.
Juno is the wife. Hmmm--what do people think of this??

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posted June 01, 2011 10:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Was doing someone's NN so got more interested in them.
Your has one aspect only.It squares Mercury.
Do you feel a frustration between your true purpose/life pupose/life goal(NN) and your ability to communicate your ideas and your sense of self (Mercury) ?

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posted June 01, 2011 10:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Hmmmm
You associate commitment with strong men.
What does anyone else think

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posted June 02, 2011 03:28 AM            

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Originally posted by etherealenlightenment:
Hahaha that may be. I don't like whimpy guys.

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Makes sense

posted June 02, 2011 06:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Makes sense

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posted June 02, 2011 06:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Makes sense

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posted June 05, 2011 02:24 PM            

Chiron is the wounded healer.It is one's slice of pain which never heals although one can help others.
One can help others but never heals oneself.

You have it in the 10th house which is career and society.

Do you feel a very large pain about something social such as being illegitmate ,for example ONLY
Do you feel you were ostracized from society for something was my point?
Do you have something that makes you feel like a social "outcast"

posted June 05, 2011 02:25 PM            

Do you feel that at all?

posted June 06, 2011 05:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have some interesting things.
You have Jupiter conjunct Chiron(3 degrees)
Jupiter enlarges and magnifies what it touches.

Chiron is the wounded healer.It is one's slice of pain which never heals although one can help others.
One can help others but never heals oneself.

You have it in the 10th house which is career and society.

Do you feel a very large pain about something social such as being illegitmate ,for example ONLY
Do you feel you were ostracized from society for something was my point?
Do you have something that makes you feel like a social "outcast"

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posted June 06, 2011 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have Sun trine Saturn(3 deg)
You have very good discipline.However,when Saturn touches us even in a trine ,it can give insecurity and low self esteem.

Do you feel that at all?

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Hmmmmmm... low self-esteem? Not really. Once again, I *used* to have low self-esteem in my adolescence but not so much anymore. I'm pretty critical of myself but... I wouldn't really describe myself as terribly insecure either. I have a fairly strong sense of self.

What that aspect has done for me I believe, is that it made me kind of an "old soul." I wouldn't say that I'm all that "disciplined," in the traditional sense of the word, but I am rather "restrained." I have a strong sense of self-preservation, and my Saturn keeps me pretty grounded in the respect that I'm very "careful." While I'm pretty impulsive, my Saturn keeps me from making stupid decisions. Any time I feel like "just doing something," my Saturn jumps in and says "Wait... What are going to be the consequences of this action? Is it worth it?" That kind of thing. So actually, I think I have the other problem. My Saturn sometimes restrains me too MUCH. I'll overthink every decision I make, and take forever making even the simplest of decisions. Also, I've been told that I come across as "older" than what I am.

posted June 06, 2011 06:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have Uranus trine Mercury.You are smart in a brilliant light bulb type of way.
You have sparks of creativity and brillance as a normal course of your thinking.
This would be an aspect for an inventor

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