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posted June 08, 2011 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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OK
Gonna take the ASC for a change
You have moon square ASC
Do you feel your true deep emotions are at odds with the outer you who must go forward in the external world?
If so,how does this feel?


Did you mean Moon opposite ASC?

Hmmmmmm... Sometimes... I feel frustrated that my outside persona is somehow supposed to represent who I am on the inside. It just doesn't seem like that's how it's supposed to be. I'm FAR more emotional than I give off. Is that what you meant?

Anyway, I've been racking my brain trying to figure this out. Can you tell me what in the world is going on in my relationship sector??? It seems like I'm relatively mature in every area of my life except that one, and it's KILLING ME!!!! (or killing my relationships, that is). My theory is that it's my Venus in Aries square Neptune. Don't know. Maybe it's just the Venus in Aries-- I just can't seem to get it to behave!!

Thank you for being so attentive and patient with me, by the way!! Your help and insight is much appreciated!!

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posted June 08, 2011 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww
Thank you for your kind words.They warm my soul.I will get on your relationship issue.
I need to mediate on things.

An Aries Venus is the hardest Venus. It makes the woman"masculine" and the man "feminine" so you must work with those energies.

You need to make sure you do not chase,first of all.
Do you chase lol

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posted June 08, 2011 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Venus is near Neptune,you are not gonna see clearly in matters of love.
I read it was not valuing oneself.
One thread said that woman who have it do not see their own value.
Please comment someone!!

Also, you may not see the other person clearly if you have a love interest in them.

I am gonna do a thread on it in Astro 2

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posted June 08, 2011 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Awww
Thank you for your kind words.They warm my soul.I will get on your relationship issue.
I need to mediate on things.

An Aries Venus is the hardest Venus. It makes the woman"masculine" and the man "feminine" so you must work with those energies.

You need to make sure you do not chase,first of all.
Do you chase lol


It depends. I tend to kind of have two extremes. With my boyfriend right now I did chase him (even though the feelings are mutual). My relationship before that was a bit of a fluke, but I guess I did most of the chasing then too and I'm inclined to say the relationship was a bit one-sided). My first boyfriend chased me to DEATH. lol That sounds dramatic. What I mean is that he basically *begged* me to go out with him for months and practically worshipped the ground I walked on (this was a "pedestal" relationship). Honestly, I do get a bit of a thrill from both chasing and being chased. I like excitement-- not luke-warm. Perhaps there-in lies my problem. I'm an excitement addict. When things stop being exciting, I'll do something to *create* it, and this isn't always in the healthiest sense of the word.

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posted June 08, 2011 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Awww
Thank you for your kind words.They warm my soul.I will get on your relationship issue.
I need to mediate on things.

An Aries Venus is the hardest Venus. It makes the woman"masculine" and the man "feminine" so you must work with those energies.

You need to make sure you do not chase,first of all.
Do you chase lol


It depends. I tend to kind of have two extremes. With my boyfriend right now I did chase him (even though the feelings are mutual). My relationship before that was a bit of a fluke, but I guess I did most of the chasing then too and I'm inclined to say the relationship was a bit one-sided). My first boyfriend, however, chased me to DEATH. lol That sounds dramatic. What I mean is that he basically *begged* me to go out with him for months and practically worshipped the ground I walked on (this was a "pedestal" relationship). Honestly, I do get a bit of a thrill from both chasing and being chased. I like excitement-- not luke-warm. Perhaps there-in lies my problem. I'm an excitement addict. When things stop being exciting, I'll do something to *create* it, and this isn't always in the healthiest sense of the word.

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posted June 08, 2011 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
When Venus is near Neptune,you are not gonna see clearly in matters of love.
I read it was not valuing oneself.
One thread said that woman who have it do not see their own value.
Please comment someone!!

Also, you may not see the other person clearly if you have a love interest in them.

I am gonna do a thread on it in Astro 2


Ughh!!!!! So true!!!!! I don't think it's so much an issue of not "valuing" myself, because I don't think my self-esteem is that low, it's just that I'm extremely idealistic about love and relationships.

I came from a broken home. It was a nightmare, and even though it felt like my insides were sliced through with a machete when it happened, It was for the best when my parents finally got a divorce (I was 9).

That said, this aspect of my life has been the source of more pain than anything else. It spawned a host of issues in my psyche: abandonement, low self esteem (during teenage years), intimacy issues, emotional confusion, victimization, relational confusion, attachment and detachment issues, naivete and extreme idealism, escapism, etc., etc., the list goes on and on. I just don't know what a relationship is supposed to be like! I have idealized it to fairytale proportions because I imagine that it must be the exact OPPOSITE of what I grew up with!

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posted June 08, 2011 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 08, 2011 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will be back with a clear eye tomorrow. Your Jupiter is conjunct my moon.
That is why we feel good together

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posted June 08, 2011 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh neat!!!! I do enjoy our discussions!!

Ok see you tomorrow!!! Get a good night's rest

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posted June 09, 2011 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Sweetie
I am gonna do yours back and forth as I do yoga .
Please respond with your ideas

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posted June 09, 2011 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Darling
With the guy who worshipped you,can you check the Apollo asteroid.
I was just talking about this with Anemone.Check the asteroid forum.
That would be fascinating.

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posted June 09, 2011 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have Saturn and NN in Cap in the 5th.
Is it hard for you to relax and have fun?
You seem like your goal is to become more 5th house which is the life of the party, center of attention and letting go with fun and joy.
Is this hard?

It is in Cap which seems opposite to this so now sure how Cap would work here.What do you think?
Cap would want you to be more responsible but I suppose they are NOT mutally exclusive.
Randall is a Cap and he is very fun loving so I suppose one must put this all together in a whole.
You need to be able to have fun but be responsible when needed.
That would be my conclusion about this aspect.What do you think?

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posted June 10, 2011 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Darling
With the guy who worshipped you,can you check the Apollo asteroid.
I was just talking about this with Anemone.Check the asteroid forum.
That would be fascinating.



I'm so sorry for not responding earlier, Ami!! I've been feeling very sick the last few days

Anyway, back to our discussions.... I checked asteroid Apollo with the synastry with my first boyfriend and my apollo is conjunct his Jupiter and chiron... His Apollo doesn't really make contact with any of my planets... His Eros is exactly conjunct my IC though... So is his Venus.... So I don't know if that makes a difference at all... Basically, he kind of put me on a Pedestal and then when he saw that I'm not nearly as perfect as he imagined, he lost interest.

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posted June 10, 2011 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have Saturn and NN in Cap in the 5th.
Is it hard for you to relax and have fun?
You seem like your goal is to become more 5th house which is the life of the party, center of attention and letting go with fun and joy.
Is this hard?

It is in Cap which seems opposite to this so now sure how Cap would work here.What do you think?


Cap would want you to be more responsible but I suppose they are NOT mutally exclusive.

Randall is a Cap and he is very fun loving so I suppose one must put this all together in a whole.
You need to be able to have fun but be responsible when needed.
That would be my conclusion about this aspect.What
do you think?


You nailed it with "need to be able to have fun but still be responsible when needed" part!! I'm what I call a "responsible partier." Im not very shy, and it's not really all that difficult or uncomfortable being the center of attention, (although sometimes I do just want to kind of be left alone)..... The thing is that even though I'm still a lot of fun... I don't usually drink very much or indulge in other such activities... I've never smoked anything, never tried any drugs, etc. I may drink a little bit if I'm at a party but I don't let myself get out of control. Does it make a difference that my Saturn is retrograde as well??

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posted June 10, 2011 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in the 3rd in Scorpio quincunx Venus in Aries.
This would make the Pluto energy which is one's primal passions hard to reconcile with the Venus energy which is what we see and feel as beautiful.
I am trying to think of how to express this in a practical way.
You have an Aries Venus which is a hard Venus cuz graceful,receptive soft Venus does not like brash, direct and forceful Aries

So, there you have an identity crisis with Venus not feeling comfortable in her home.

Pluto in Scorpio is an intense and focused Pluto.It is the primal energy of the tiger, stalking it's prey if need be lol

You have to harmonize your Pluto primal instincts with your Venus who is looking for love, devotion and a sense of what it finds beautiful in a mate.
Did that make sense?
Could not hone down my words very well.
What do you think?

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posted June 10, 2011 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes yes yes!!!! A thousand times yes!!! This is VERY hard for me... I have a constant battle of masculine vs. female energies... I want to be feminine and have harmony in my life but then that male Pluto side comes out and demands a little friction and excitement. This especially affects my relationships. It makes me very restless and confused about my own needs and desires. If you throw my Moon into the mix as well, that's when it really gets interesting!! My Moon wants nurturing and harmony while my Aries Venus wants no part in that!!! And then my Pluto kicks in... Ugh!! It's just a mess!!! What do you think about my Venus being a fire singleton??

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posted June 12, 2011 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 12, 2011 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will meditate on your Venus as a fire singelton

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posted June 12, 2011 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Venus is Cardinal fire in Aries in the 8th house.
I will check aspects later
The 8th house gives you a SCorpio overlay so you are deeper than the typical Aries Venus.
I will check aspects and be back
THANKS FOR BUMPING.Please keep doing this.My Gemini gets scattered lol

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posted June 13, 2011 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Your Venus is Cardinal fire in Aries in the 8th house.
I will check aspects later
The 8th house gives you a SCorpio overlay so you are deeper than the typical Aries Venus.
I will check aspects and be back
THANKS FOR BUMPING.Please keep doing this.My Gemini gets scattered lol


Oh you're welcome

Anyway, that's interesting and at the same time makes sense. Analyzing my pattern of partner selections throughout my life has shown that there is a consistent presence of two signs: Leo and Scorpio. I have no Leo placements, and the only Scorpio placements I have are Pluto and Juno. My first boyfriend was a Scorpio with a Leo Moon, my second had a Scorpio Mars-Saturn conjunction with a Leo AC, and my current boyfriend is a Leo with a Scorpio Moon. The eighth house Venus would explain that I guess! But where does the affinity for Leo come from? What do you think?

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posted June 13, 2011 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm
Great question
I will think about it tomorrow.
Go to the ASteroid Forum.Check the thread about Links.
You can see which asteroids are conjunct key places--1-2 degrees.
Come back and tell me

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posted June 13, 2011 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo on the cusp of the 12th and in the 9th
This would make you look for your answers to the deepest questions in life through religion and spirituality.
That makes sense if you are on an Astrology forum asking questions lol

I am trying to check why you like Leo guys lol

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posted June 13, 2011 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in the 8th house conjunct Eros square Uranus
Yes the Scorpio attraction could be the 8th house,Scorpio's natural house.
Also, eros is erotic and Scorpios are that

Now, your Venus /Uranus square.That is interesting. Do you bolt from closeness,bolt from love when it gets too close?
Do you have a strong push/pull with intimacy and space?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted June 13, 2011 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did not see you were sick.Hope you are feeling better.
I will meditate on your chart today.

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posted June 13, 2011 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I left the question about Venus/Uranus.Tell me what you think !

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