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Ami Anne
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posted July 17, 2011 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Sorry FB
I will look Darling

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posted July 17, 2011 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireBird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami Anne
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posted July 18, 2011 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have Logos conj Venus.IQ was talking about Logos in the Asteroid Forum.

It is almost a saintly Asteroid. It is a strong spirituality and closeness to God,I think.
Check it out Baby

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posted July 18, 2011 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man

I just saw something.You have Chaos conj NN.
Is your life defined by Chaos,one thing after another after another until you want to pull your hair out?

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posted July 18, 2011 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to ask IQ if Asteroids matter if they are Retro.
You have Chaos retro and it seems to do a lot of things. I do not know all the asteroids.

It opposes Cupido. Cupido is fake love.This may mean you can have a mask of fake love but Chaos makes you have to keep taking it off and putting it on and back and forth.

Does that fit at all lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 18, 2011 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireBird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I will do Amycus sextile Merc and Mean node.

Amycus is a bright ,happy energy as one would find in a musical.
This is a wonderful one to have sextile Mercury which is your mind and Mean node which is your path in life


So this means I look at intellect and life in general as happy things I look forward to?

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posted July 18, 2011 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireBird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You have Logos conj Venus.IQ was talking about Logos in the Asteroid Forum.

It is almost a saintly Asteroid. It is a strong spirituality and closeness to God,I think.
Check it out Baby


Yeah, I love learning about God and being conscientious. Trying to get as close to Him as I can.

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posted July 18, 2011 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireBird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I just saw something.You have Chaos conj NN.
Is your life defined by Chaos,one thing after another after another until you want to pull your hair out?

Yes, there is always something coming up in my life that throws me off balance, whether its people around me, or my emotional instability.

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posted July 18, 2011 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireBird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have to ask IQ if Asteroids matter if they are Retro.
You have Chaos retro and it seems to do a lot of things. I do not know all the asteroids.

It opposes Cupido. Cupido is fake love.This may mean you can have a mask of fake love but Chaos makes you have to keep taking it off and putting it on and back and forth.

Does that fit at all lol


love--- I guess I can fake it. or maybe chaos is all in my head, if i feel hesitant about something, i can convince myself and others i don't love them anymore?... i'm not sure...can you be more specific?

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posted July 19, 2011 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireBird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 19, 2011 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Baby
Keep bumping
Thank you

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posted July 19, 2011 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I will do Mean Node oppose Cupido.
Cupido is fake love.It is wearing the face of love for some ulterior motive.
So this would tell me that your purpose would be opposite this.
You have to have integrity in love?

Have you been fake with your feelings in the past to get someone to do that you wanted,be with you etc
Has this been one of the things you struggled with.
Don't be embarrassed. We all have to deal with the 7 deadly sins

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posted July 20, 2011 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireBird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I faked love with people who oppressed me just to keep them off of my back and still do the things that I want to do without bringing their attention to it. Because at that time, I felt helpless to do anything to get out of the situation.

Then others, who I am suspicious of, I'll fake love until they prove otherwise.

In general though, yes, I want absolute integrity in love. I try to uphold that on my part, and expect it from others.

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posted July 20, 2011 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireBird:
I faked love with people who oppressed me just to keep them off of my back and still do the things that I want to do without bringing their attention to it. Because at that time, I felt helpless to do anything to get out of the situation.

Then others, who I am suspicious of, I'll fake love until they prove otherwise.

In general though, yes, I want absolute integrity in love. I try to uphold that on my part, and expect it from others.


Fascinating that Cupido was true! How amazing are the charts Darling.
Do you agree?
Thanks for being so honest ,too.
I can't be bothered to go to all this effort if a person is gonna be fake

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 21, 2011 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireBird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very true

I mean, if you can't be honest, then you can't be analyzed properly.

Generally speaking though...did you find anything about deception or betrayal? Why I'm in these situations?

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posted July 21, 2011 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireBird:
Very true

I mean, if you can't be honest, then you can't be analyzed properly.

Generally speaking though...did you find anything about deception or betrayal? Why I'm in these situations?


Yes Darling
Cupido for one cuz it is pulling against your life purpose which would be Anti Cupido ,you could say or your inner face matching your outer.
This is in terms of love,in particular ,though.

Please tell me if this fits cuz it is so interesting.

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posted July 21, 2011 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireBird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My response to cupido, subconsciously, was in order from my south node to my north node. I was fake in the past, and now I'm trying to be real and attract real people. But there is one love interest (that I talked to you about) who can't seem to deal with my real self. Whether I email him a short or long email, he doesn't bother replying back whenever he feels like it. When I don't show too much of myself (aka I feel fake because I pretend that I don't care), that's when he's running after me.

It hurts like a b****

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posted July 21, 2011 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireBird:
My response to cupido, subconsciously, was in order from my south node to my north node. I was fake in the past, and now I'm trying to be real and attract real people. But there is one love interest (that I talked to you about) who can't seem to deal with my real self. Whether I email him a short or long email, he doesn't bother replying back whenever he feels like it. When I don't show too much of myself (aka I feel fake because I pretend that I don't care), that's when he's running after me.

It hurts like a b****


Yes I get that totally.These things are all about balance.You can be real w/out chasing him.
Cupido is more about using a face of love to get what you want not valuing yourself and having a good sense of self and identity.

Anyway, the way to get to your NN is to force yourself to be Authentic.
I am trying to do that and it is very,very hard.
That is not my particular Asteroid to deal with ,though.
That is one of your life themes, that struggle cuz it relates to the Nodes.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 21, 2011 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireBird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're saying that the face of cupido has nothing to do with value or self identity...but i'm worried about conscientiousness. that my intentions- if the face of love to work, would be of a player kind. i don't want that in my list of sins...makes sense?

Another question to ask...his moon conjunct his chiron in taurus. They don't conjunct my NN (moon being closer), but they are close (9 degrees away). How does this work in terms of my development?

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posted July 21, 2011 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireBird:
You're saying that the face of cupido has nothing to do with value or self identity...but i'm worried about conscientiousness. that my intentions- if the face of love to work, would be of a player kind. i don't want that in my list of sins...makes sense?

Another question to ask...his moon conjunct his chiron in taurus. They don't conjunct my NN (moon being closer), but they are close (9 degrees away). How does this work in terms of my development?


Yes in a word Cupido is the face of the player who lies that he loves the person.The player who did not lie would not be Cupido, you see?

9 degrees away is too far but for him his moon conj Chiron makes him a person whose life is filled with deep, deep heart pain.

Is that true?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 21, 2011 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireBird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait, so are you saying that I'm naturally a player? Great...that's what I need! And I'm trying to be religious and not manipulate people.

I have no idea...he's never let me in. And it hurts that he never let me in.

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posted July 21, 2011 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wait, so are you saying that I'm naturally a player? Great...that's what I need! And I'm trying to be religious and not manipulate people.

I have no idea...he's never let me in. And it hurts that he never let me in.


Well, i think THAT aspect means you will be tested NOT to be a player.
Do you feel like you are one? Can you relate to Cupido?

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posted July 21, 2011 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireBird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes I feel like playing the field...but that's usually because I'm scared one person won't do it for me and I want to see someone else if they can be better. It's different from greener pastures though.

It's more like, oh I like this guy, but I don't know if the future won't pan out...so let me see others too. I don't to waste time on one person if he's not good, and let others go because I was too blind in love. But I never acted on that impulse. I thought about it...but never acted on it.

But am I really a player? No. The guys I'm attracted to are usually hard to get anyways, so I can't be a player. If it's someone who is desperate, I'm just like, no, I don't like you right from the get go. I don't like stringing people along. I know what I want and what I don't want. But it's the person that I want that always hurts me.

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