posted August 03, 2011 01:52 PM            

I actually wanted someone else's input into the synastry because you were doing the natal. I just get the feeling you are asking about Quinquix (for example) -- not to help me, but becuase you are perhaps learning about that at this time.

It would be good if you stayed with someone till you saw it through to the end and then moved on to another..otherwise it's a big jumble. And if that's just not your style of doing the charts then it's really good for the other person to know that beforehand.

posted August 03, 2011 04:49 PM            

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Originally posted by fireopal:
Star!! That was very kind of you to share those words with me and thank you - you have no idea what this means to me just to hear someone help in this way.

You are right - there must be something very meaningful there for me to return to him time and time again...and you're also right that if there wasn't something there I woudn't even bother and it would be easy.

I LOVE what you said about the book - I haven't read it, but again this is exactly how I feel - that we are bound together and that he never leaves my side - it's almost like I can hear him and feel all the time with me and this exact feeling is what makes me think that there is something we still have to do with each other and not to go and leave forever.

Thanks also for pointing out the NN contacts - yes it's mostly his NN in relation to my planets but I have a few too. I think this is important somehow, but I don't know enough to know why lol (still learning).

I wondered if it was possible that I may have the deep soul connection and he may not even have it?? Is that possible...or could it be he doesn't reveal it as I feel it? I didn't know who would feel the nodes more or if it was a two way street.

You have pointed something out to me concerning the Cancer aspect in him - he does not show this sensitive openly and I wrote about it a little in the post above with Amy. Maybe this is what I haven't been realising -- at first I thought he was sensitive, but all outward expression points to the opposite (he's firm and strong externally) and because I couldn't see and feel the sensitivity from him I took that as him not really caring about me. BUT in saying that he is very protective of me.

Anyways...lovely insights and again you have helped me in some understanding and I shall perservere.

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Thank you-It means a lot to me. I will be honest-I got into astrology to get insights on myself and realtionships and I am finding it really is gratifying to look at others charts.

This chart speaks to me and I feel positive about your chart. For myself I feel that mine may be beyond salvage but maybe not.

An astrologer I went to said that my partner's NN conjunct my Sun and Venus gives me hope he will be back. I'm guessing that the same aspect to your personal planets might mean the same thing (if you are currently apart-physically I mean!!)

I've got to investigate the Nodal contacts more because I am in the same boat. My NN does not aspect his personal planets at all. But we've got Sun Vertex conjunctions Double Whammy which is more fated stuff!!

I see his Vertex conjuncts your personal planets.

I'll try to look some more when I get time.

posted August 04, 2011 05:53 AM            

I would definitely say that you have a certain manner which provides understanding - I can actually feel the soul in the things you have said, so on this level I think people will benefit from what you share with them.

- Little note on (Beyond Salvage) -- I don't think that anything is beyond this. It takes the might of your belief (especially when outer expressions may be telling/showing you the opposite) -- to also know your own heart too, if your heart is telling you this man is for you and you love this man then trust this above all else and others. Take it as your highest guide. It may be that to appear to seperate for a while is necessary for your growth and his and this universe is so amazing that it finds a way (it's own unique way) - so too in trusting -- that the universe will help you and not to doubt this.....

I made a mistake in also letting Others who may not have had my best interests at heart plant wee seeds of doubt about him to me..but on reflecting about the things they said they definitely didn't have my best interests at heart - they were meddling, and I shouldn't have let their negativities on him 'steer' me at times, this is one of the things I've learned too - that I know better about my own feelings than anyone else does and that if people are giving you 'advice' and this advice is hurting you then discard it.

It's interesting the NN of his conjuncts your Sun and Venus and that the man whom I love the conjuncts are Merc, Mars, Venus, Ceres, Juno (although configuration hunter includes Mercury, astro.com doesn't so I'm laying that one to the side). We have a square to my Moon in NN and I square his Pluto with my NN and then there are a few sextiles here and there.

What I wanted to ask you on this was how did you feel about the Venus NN connection? I read that some websites say that it's the NN person who teaches the Venus and other websites which say it's the Venus which teaches the NN. I feel I hold the vibration of love towards him and that for me it was only a matter of waiting for him to open up in his truth - like knowing already that the love is there and awaiting him to feel his own heart. When other factors figure in (as they will - whether hitting on my own insecurities or doubts)this draws me away from the absolute knowing of my own heart and throws it more into confusion in some way.
Anyways what I'm trying to say here is that I feel it is the NN person learning through the Venus person in this area, but the Venus person has to realise that the NN person is not quite there in their ability yet. So to me it's also a pointer to stand strong in your own inner knowing about your already developed ability of how to love another (the man you love) and not to doubt that if the other (the man you love) is not quite being able to match it (yet) the way you need it to be matched. I wondered if you see that in your relationship with him and yourself as I think that's part of what's happening with the man I love and myself.

One thing I've learned though is to not doubt what YOU feel and know (when it's unclouded!) -- because that's the truth right there.

I can't read charts - but I do look at aspects and such through astro or configuration hunter, so if you ever want me to look at some of your placements with him I'd love that too.

posted August 04, 2011 05:07 PM            

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Originally posted by fireopal:

I did the same too Star. I've been peeking in and out of aspects and learning a little bit here and there as I go along and it was relationships which brought me deeper into astrology.

I would definitely say that you have a certain manner which provides understanding - I can actually feel the soul in the things you have said, so on this level I think people will benefit from what you share with them.

- Little note on (Beyond Salvage) -- I don't think that anything is beyond this. It takes the might of your belief (especially when outer expressions may be telling/showing you the opposite) -- to also know your own heart too, if your heart is telling you this man is for you and you love this man then trust this above all else and others. Take it as your highest guide. It may be that to appear to seperate for a while is necessary for your growth and his and this universe is so amazing that it finds a way (it's own unique way) - so too in trusting -- that the universe will help you and not to doubt this.....

I made a mistake in also letting Others who may not have had my best interests at heart plant wee seeds of doubt about him to me..but on reflecting about the things they said they definitely didn't have my best interests at heart - they were meddling, and I shouldn't have let their negativities on him 'steer' me at times, this is one of the things I've learned too - that I know better about my own feelings than anyone else does and that if people are giving you 'advice' and this advice is hurting you then discard it.

It's interesting the NN of his conjuncts your Sun and Venus and that the man whom I love the conjuncts are Merc, Mars, Venus, Ceres, Juno (although configuration hunter includes Mercury, astro.com doesn't so I'm laying that one to the side). We have a square to my Moon in NN and I square his Pluto with my NN and then there are a few sextiles here and there.

What I wanted to ask you on this was how did you feel about the Venus NN connection? I read that some websites say that it's the NN person who teaches the Venus and other websites which say it's the Venus which teaches the NN. I feel I hold the vibration of love towards him and that for me it was only a matter of waiting for him to open up in his truth - like knowing already that the love is there and awaiting him to feel his own heart. When other factors figure in (as they will - whether hitting on my own insecurities or doubts)this draws me away from the absolute knowing of my own heart and throws it more into confusion in some way.
Anyways what I'm trying to say here is that I feel it is the NN person learning through the Venus person in this area, but the Venus person has to realise that the NN person is not quite there in their ability yet. So to me it's also a pointer to stand strong in your own inner knowing about your already developed ability of how to love another (the man you love) and not to doubt that if the other (the man you love) is not quite being able to match it (yet) the way you need it to be matched. I wondered if you see that in your relationship with him and yourself as I think that's part of what's happening with the man I love and myself.

One thing I've learned though is to not doubt what YOU feel and know (when it's unclouded!) -- because that's the truth right there.

I can't read charts - but I do look at aspects and such through astro or configuration hunter, so if you ever want me to look at some of your placements with him I'd love that too.

Very interested to hear about Vertex I don't know anything about it. I'll also look up Anne Ortelee today ty.

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Fireopal

First of al I want to thank you for the compliment-It means alot to me.

I had a huge surprise today when my ex contacted me out of the blue-after 10 weeks of no contact. I don't know if all these vibes and your support brought this to fruition. The timing was eerie. I'm not going to get too excited as it was a friendly phone call and a few texts.

However in relationship to your NN question-he is NN Leo which is the need to be recognized, creativity-the antithesis of everything Aquarian-being part of a large group-sort of losing himself that way.

So he has been taking violin lessons for several months now and was in a recital-so he sent me his pic playing the violin. I had seenn this pic on fb-we are not fb friends but I do look at his profile pic and this has been set for awhile. This is a solid clue to me that he is following his NN. Of course if I mentioned that he was following it he would be confused. Itlod him I was proud of him and that he deserved to be a star every now and then.

So I believe that I have stimulated his NN more than he me. I am Leo-very creative and artistic and plus have a bunch of 5th house planets.

Now this does not mean that he has not stimulated my NN-he has in subtle ways. Mine is Cancer so I tend to follow the SN more easily-more Cap traits-ambitious driven career oriented. He has time and time again reprimanded he for not being more Cancer like(obviously not in these words)

Also I was looking at your chart and you dump alot of planets in his 6th house of wellbeing (in addition to work) and I would say you would affect his well-being-he may suffer when he is not with you.