posted November 18, 2011 08:38 AM            

"The Temperance card reflects that you have a clear, long-term vision of what you want to achieve. You are not rushing things along; rather you are taking your time to ensure that you do the best job you can. This card also reflects a higher learning in what you are doing and demonstrates that you are learning a great deal on your journey. You are at peace with what you are doing and it is all coming together very well. Your inner voice is guiding you gently to the right outcome and you are patiently listening and following. You have a very balanced perspective on the situation at this time and you are in a very good position to make the right choices."

posted November 18, 2011 08:58 AM            

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Originally posted by anongrl10:
The Chariot has nothing to do with the Strength card. The Strength is what you described: the need to face up a challenge and gather your inner resources for that.

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posted November 18, 2011 09:06 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Thanks!

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posted November 18, 2011 09:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
For those interested in the spread itself; I found it here (the first spread on the page)
http://www.tarotpassages.com/Pages2/2001febspread.htm

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posted November 18, 2011 09:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I`m going to continue with the readings in a while (and I know I have some other things to reply to as well, so I have not ignored or forgotten you, just trying to take it one at a time).

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posted November 18, 2011 09:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Why did you post this question twice? I did see you yesterday.
Also I noticed you posted the same question in various threads; I read somewhere that you can ask the same question about the same person only once, just like in horary. The following readings might be invalid or lack in clarity or something like that.

I am just rephrasing what I read, and I gladly do you reading. Just wanted to let you know about that.

Also maybe someone can shed light on this? Is it okay to do several readings on the same question?

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posted November 18, 2011 11:23 AM            

1a) your significator:
5 cups

keyword: melancholy
Something has been lost, but you gained in maturity and wisdom. You may be disappointed or hurt by a betrayal or withdrawal, but you sense these things happen for a reason. Be honest with yourself. You have the strength to use a painful episode as a catalyst for growth.

1b) his significator

The World (wow, one of my favourites; it is such a lovely depiction in the Crowley as well as this deck)

keyword:union
completion; union; joy; cycles; fulfilling lovers

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personal remark: has he "found" you in a time of sadness? Maybe you broke up with someone else before, and that is what the loss refers to?

The major arcana as his significator card shows a very powerful influence, either of him onto the relationship as a whole, or how important this is for him.

I had that thought flashing through my mind: "he thinks the world of you", I cannot tell you where it came from, but felt I wanted to share this with you.

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2a) your subconscious link to him

Ace of pentacles
keyword: increase

material world, five senses; money, abundance, property, prosperty; a secure grounded relationship where sensual pleasures enhance mutual happiness. A sense of contentment.

2b) his subconscious linkage to you
The Devil

keyword: desire
instinctual; worldly values; carnal passions; power; material powers; obsessive lover

personal remark:
*gulps* so, there are two very powerful major arcanas to describe him and the link to you, and looking at the kind of arcanas, I get a feeling of utter passionate abandonment; not sure how balanced it is, but is he compulsively drawn to you and very much attracted to you on a sexual level as well?

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3a) past event : your perspective
King of Swords

keyword: intelligence
intelligent; curious, well-educated man; his flirtatious charm is entertianing, but he is wary of passion and disconcerted by overt displays of emotion. Mental compatibility is important to him, and without it he grows bored and loses interest.

3b) past event: his perspective

7 cups
keyword: potential
this looks like fun from the outside, but he may have felt stressed and confused. unable to make a decision.

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4a) what you learn from him, or what is realized with him

8 pentacles
keyword: study
practical efforts; suggests a course of study or acquiring a new skill to reach emotional happiness

4b) what he learns from you, or what is realized through you

10 swords
betrayal

this represens a time of betrayal, endings, and occasionally scandal. however a negative phase is almost over; a relationship or lifestyle no longer works for you,s o walk away. Don`t look back. You are beginning a new cycle.

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5a) how the relationship changes or challenges you

10 pentacles
keyword: family
this is all about family. Perhaps you are about to introduce a new love to your family or meet his or her relations?

5b) how the relationship changes or challenges him

Death
keyword: rebirth
change, transition, regeneration; sexual passion; inevitable change; transformative lover

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6) karmic essence / why you have been brought together

Justice

keyword: balance
mental balance; equilibrium; truth, wisdom, order; balanced decisions; logical lovers

Some thoughts:

Your spread contains 4 major arcana! (three on his side).
Well, this is really a lot, as I used 11 cards out of 78, and I think it indicates the significance of this relationship, though I find it interesting, that the major arcanas are pretty much focused on him.

For him there is a lot mentioning of ending of a cycle and beginning a new.

On your side it looked almost strange, your significator card was surrounded by pentacle-cards, except for the past event (King of swords).
It almost looked like you were wrapped up in the pentacles as in a warm cover.
I think it means that there is a need to make this relationship "real" and it might give a grounded, practical feeling along with a calm sensuality (earth-element).

posted November 18, 2011 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I want to add about the Strength card, that to me it also indicates passion, an instinctual primal (positive) response, that gives much energy and strength to tackle on whatever challenge may await.

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posted November 18, 2011 01:19 PM            

1a) your significator:

10 pentacles
keyword: family
this is all about your family or your relationship with relatives.
Perhaps you are about to introduce your love to your family or meet his relations?

1b) his significator:
7 wands

keyword: assertiveness
he has been battling against something, inner conflicts, a partner, a difficult situation. He is so tired of struggling that he may be fantasizing about giving up. But this card encourages him to focus his energy and keep pushing. He is close to achieving his goals.

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2a) your subconscious link to him

2 pentacles
keyword: fluctuations
your energies are out of balance. Restlessness, lack of focus or uncertainty about money could be affecting your relationship, but your partner may find that hard to understand. Help is on its way. Accept it. you need to find some harmony.

2b) his subconscious link to you

emperor

keyword: masculinity
the essence of mascculinity, maturity and fatherhood. He represents potency and the ability to channel energy where it is needed. Enduring vitality. dynamic, ambitious and structured. Achievement. Authority, strongwilled lover.

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3a) your past event

3 wands

keyword: opportunity
optimistic vibrations; introductions and invitations springing from established contacts - but not always the way you imagine. Could also denote a successful generous person coming into your life

3b) his past event
Ace Swords

keyword: fate

thought; clarity, logic, intellectual brilliance. At a deeper more symbolic level it is linked to fate, karma and destiny, and thus can denote strange coincideces, potent experiences of love at first sight.
it also suggests endings; it may be time to move on.

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4a) what you learn from him or what is realized trhough him

chariot

keyword: progress
progress preceded by significant struggle. tenacity. Victory. Gifted lover

4b) what he learns from you or what is realized through you

six of swords

keyword : movement
harmonious, peaceful movement. This may mean that a troubled phase in your relationship is ending. It can also indicate travel.

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5a) how the relationship changes or challenges you

5 swords
keyword:limitation
power struggles. Arguments are inevitable. You may be dealing with a liar or someone who won`t acknowledge the truth. Perhaps this relationship is no longer right for you.

(hmm, doesn´t really make much sense to me; i don`t get a "liar" vibration from that card; to me it is more about struggles, sometimes even unneccessary ones, and a warning of pride maybe?)

5b) how the relationship changes or challenges him:

page of pentacles

keyword: good news
this card is linked with money, security and family matters. A little windfall or some extra cash could be on the way, or happy news about a close one. there will soon be something to celebrate.

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6) karmic essence, why you have been brought together

6 wands

keyword: achievement

success, achievement, artistic inspiration; this creative card reoresents a turning point, good news and rewards. it suggests that your work is closely linked to your partner, maybe you work together, or a promotion will improve your relationship.

Maybe he is going to propose to you after a promotion?

posted November 18, 2011 01:22 PM            

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personal remark: has he "found" you in a time of sadness? Maybe you broke up with someone else before, and that is what the loss refers to?

I had that thought flashing through my mind: "he thinks the world of you", I cannot tell you where it came from, but felt I wanted to share this with you.
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RESPONSE:
Love love love that you sense he thinks the world of me. As I do him.

In fact, we met 12yrs ago, and we were both different people. Our paths crossed 3x in the past years, during which first he was married, then I was married, and this go 'round, we are both free. STRANGELY, we both were in "rebound rships" which ended painfully about the same day, and we reconnected about 2 weeks later. Uncanny!

... we have life scars, each of us our own, some shared, some still below the surface I imagine.

My divorce is just completed, and he has been apart from his ex for a few years.

I'm loving the *gulps*. Bring it, I say :-)

We are very well suited physically, though we tentatively open new levels as we grow closer. It's beautiful really how we explore the realm as new again. We both ended our marriages for same reason which has to do with lack of physical affection, none, zippo (him - betrayal, me- total rejection)
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Some thoughts:

Your spread contains 4 major arcana! (three on his side).
Well, this is really a lot, as I used 11 cards out of 78, and I think it indicates the significance of this relationship, though I find it interesting, that the major arcanas are pretty much focused on him.

For him there is a lot mentioning of ending of a cycle and beginning a new.
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RESPONSE: I sure hope I am the "new cycle" :-) His old patterns are not healthy, and yet he is an amazing father, good, upstanding man without outward issues.

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On your side it looked almost strange, your significator card was surrounded by pentacle-cards, except for the past event (King of swords).
It almost looked like you were wrapped up in the pentacles as in a warm cover.
I think it means that there is a need to make this relationship "real" and it might give a grounded, practical feeling along with a calm sensuality (earth-element).

you might have been through a hard time emotionally,w hich still lingers on in your emotional mood. Was there a fear to succumb to emotions previously? Trying to dissect it with you reason?
Or maybe the King of Swords also represents an important man in your past, and there are aftermaths of your contact with him, that still influence you and therefore the relationship.
though at the same time I see that this relationship makes you feel valued (pentacles!) and hopefully also safe.
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RESPONSE: Yes, my ex really threw me off for years having no affection (from day 1 after wedding actually). So, physical contact is very important and fear of rejection is huge ...

This rship for me is so special, in a way I'm learning more about how special each day. We have more in common than we ever suspected, and are drawn to each other for support, love, and safety in a balanced way. It's as if we've known all along, and are only experiencing it now. Something very unique, bonded, wonderful.

It's scary though too. As we approach new milestones, there are narrow shoals - and my old fears show up (his too maybe?). I acknowledge them, and am working on just moving past them, marching forward as today things are wonderful.

It's funny that you mention being "wrapped" by pentacles, because I feel that exactly - safety - love - home - contentment, since the first encounter.

With him, I can just be myself. And I sense he can be too with me.

Being a man's man, he doesn't talk much about feelings, but shows them by how he cares and includes me in his world.

He has been suffering with bad flu for 2 weeks, and had to cancel a very special planned vacation (our first). We have both been in a funk of sorts - and I appreciate your reading. 2 weeks in the NKZ "no kiss zone" takes its toll on anyone.

THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU!!!!

posted November 18, 2011 01:56 PM            

are you still offering to read ? i would like to request one if u r planning to do more readings .

posted November 18, 2011 03:21 PM            

1a) your significator
7 pentacles

gestation
you may be questioning your lifestyle, life choices or relationship status. this card offers hope and reassurance- this is a period of growth, but it is taking place out of sight. be optimistic and have faith

1b) his significator
3 cups

celebration
joy and laughter. Parties and celebrations bring him pelasure and his energies are vibrant and magnetically. if he is searching ofr love there is no better time to be out there.

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2a) your subconscious link to him

5 cups
melancholy
something has been lost, but you have gianed in maturity and wisdom. You may be disappointed or hurt by a betrayal or withdrawal, but you sense these things happen for a reason. Be honest with yourself.

2b) his subconscious link to you
2 cups

affection
love, affection and harmony. it usually symbolizes a new romance; if you are already involve with someone, it heralds an extra-special phase full of love and tenderness.

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3a) your past
3 pentacles
encouragement

this card suggests praise and encouragement - often linked with work or artistic projects. a more comfortable home is another key meaning; you and your partner could soon be making a cosy nest together.

3b) his past

hierophant

inititation
order, certainty, conventional lovers

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4a) what you learn7 get from him

9 wands
uncertainty
great strength and potential for success are available to you, though you may not realize it. You just need a positive attitude to help you make one last push to reach your goal. This card can describe someone who doubts their own worth. Outer confidence masks insecurities and a vulnerable core.

4b9 what he learns / gets from you:
hanged man

suspension
willing self-sacrifice; acceptance of fate; symbolizes unconcious life, where nothing is quite what it appears to be. sacrifice, surrender, fantasy lovers.

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5a) how the relationship changes or challenges you

high priestess
mystery
eternal feminine; guardian of secrets, can open doors of perception; intuition; secrets; mysterious lovers

5b) how the relationship changes or challenges him

5 of wands
competition
conflict and competition; he may experience inner conflicts, new desires or uncomfortable emotions or clashing with his partner and fighting about everything.

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6 karmic essence

Fool

beginnings
optimism; childlike faith, humour, innocence; instinct, intuition; change, freedom, adventure, spontaneous attractions, unconventional lovers

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posted November 19, 2011 01:46 AM            

This card has been haunting me trust me!
It appeared twice in my week's spread (a week ago and this week) its actually my today's card [I pick up 7 cards, read them together and one card is for one day of the week]
it appeared in my reading for last full moon
and it always appears with Heart card of Lenormand Deck...

posted November 19, 2011 09:35 AM            

1a) You or your situation:

7 cups
keyword: potential (dreaming)
You may be feeling stressed and confused. You don`t need to make a decision right now. If you are dating several possible partners, just enjoy the variety and delay getting too involved.

Sometimes it can also be about fantasy, dreams or even delusions.

1b) him or his situation

6 of wands
achievement
success; achievement; a turning point; good news; rewards.
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2a) your subconscious link to him

9 cups
radiance
emotional, mental and physical connection. jofyful fulfillment. love, harmony, intimacy, pleasure

(seems like you are still very much in love with him)

2b) his subconscious link to you

4 wands
Abundance.
home together; those wh are single can use enhanced intuition to guide them towards the right partner or simply revel in a delightful phase of dating and flirtation.

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3a) your past

fool
beginnings; optimism, childlike faith, innocence, humour; change, freedom, adventure, spontaneous attraction, unconventional lovers

3b) his past
4 swords

peace
he needs to find some peace and quiet, seeking sanctuary and restoring inner equilibrium. more than physical rest was required, he was mentally exhausted and needed to stop and feed his mind and spirit

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4a) what you learn or gain from him

6 cups
history
past lovers, old friends and happy memories now hold the key to your happiness. An old relationship might be renewed. This influence is directly llinked to your history.

4b) what he learns or gains from you
8 cups
quest
he is leaving a relationship or way of thinking behind as he answeres the longing for adventure and the need to move away from disappointment and unhappiness. he may reject someone or be rejected. Any parting comes at the right time. His search for a deeper love has already begun.

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5a) how the relationship changes or challenges you

3 of swords
Heartache
inner turmoil and tension. An obsessive attraction may turn your world upside down, but fail to develop into a stable relationship. this card frequently denotes love triangles, stressful break-ups and on/off romances. Use these to gain a deeper understanding of yourself

5b) how the relationship changes or challenges him
King of Swords
intelligence

an intelligent, curious man. his flirtatious charms are highly entertaining, but he is wary of passion and disconcerted by overt displays of emotion. Mental compatibility is important to him and without it he grows bored and loses interest.

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6) karmic essence
2 cups

posted November 19, 2011 11:51 AM            

1a) you and your position
Page of swords
Information
gossip, scandal, flirtation; your mind is sharp and clear and you enjoy witty conversation. The simplest interpretation is communication.

1b) his and his position
King of Swords
Intelligence
intelligent, curious, well-educated man. His flirtatious charms are highly entertaining, but he is wary of passion and disconcerted by overt displays of emotion. Mental compatibility is important to him and without it, he grows bored and loses interest.

personal remark: it seems that you share some common trait in that intellectual things are important to you both, and maybe both of you even are more intellect-oriented than really emotional people. Or at least it looks to me as if neither of you is prone to "lose his / hear head", no matter how much you may be attracted to someone.

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2a) your subconscious link to him

page of wands
vitality.
fun-loving, warmth, movement. Invitations, conversations and short trips broaden your horizons. You are entering a creative phase and your positive outlook attracts others. Singles won`t be short of dates. This is the perfect time to relax and have fun.

2b) his subc. link to you
4 of wands
Abundance
Those who are single can use enhanced intuition to guide them towards the right partner, or simply revel in a delightful phasee of dating and flirtation. Enjoy yourself.

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3a) past - your perspective
9 of swords

oppression
anxiety, fear, heartache. It usually appears during a difficult time in an ongoing relationship or after a painful break-up. The gift lies within yourself. This may be a dark night of the soul, but you are gaining in strength and wisdom everyday.

3b) his past

Ace pentacles

Increase
material world and five senses; strong links with money, property, prosperity and abundance. It suggests a secure grounded relationship where sensual pleasures enhance mutual happiness.

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4a) what you learn or gain from him

Three of cups
Celebration
joy and laughter. parties and celebrations bring you pleasure, and your physical, emotional and spiritual energies are vibrant and magnetic. A lively, positive time is practically guaranteed. If you are searching for love, there is no better time to be out there.

4b) what he learns or gains from you
8 pentacles

Study
this is the card of the apprentice and of practical efforts. It may describe the environment where you will meet someone special or signify what they are currently doing. It also suggests that a course of study or acquiring a new skill is exactly what you need for your emotional happiness.

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5a) how the relationship changes or challenges you

5 wands

competition
Conflict and competition can be creative. You may be experiencing inner conflicts, new desires or uncomfortable emotions, or clashing with your partner. It is the girti in the oyster which creates the pearl; the potential for a happy outcome is here. Be bold.

5b) how the relationship changes or challenges him
10 swords

Betrayal
this represents a time of betrayal and endings and occasionally scandal. Be wary of confiding in others - your secrets may not remain so for long. however a negative phase is almost over: a relationship or lifestyle no longer works for you so walk away. don`t look back. You are beginning a new cycle.

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6. karmic essence and purpose

Page of cups
Dreams
Intuition and imagination are especially important now. This is a joyful, happy card and often denotes uplifting news. It has close links with the first stirrings of love and desire. Listen to your inner voice and pay attention to your dreams.

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personal remarks:
it seems that you have a lot in common; both are being depicted by sword cards, so there might be an intellectual or mental link and understanding of each other`s character 8at least as it is portrayed currently).

in the subconscious-linkage position for both of you a wand turns up, so there probably is no shortage of enthusiasm and potential warmth.

Your reading contains 3 page cards which is very noteable. So I think that even though there probably is a potential emotional connection, it is still at the very beginning, thus more relating to a flirtatious stage than a deeply committed one emotionally.

I guess the Page of cups sums it up perfectly.

posted November 19, 2011 02:34 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:

I have others, but I've been feeling the urge to use these again, and I can't find them. I bought them in August 2010.

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Teasel,