posted December 29, 2011 08:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Places:
That definitely fits. I am never submissive. I am (to my shagrin) usually the one wearing the pants in the relationship. I would LOVE to have a strong man - my only experience with a strong man was one who was abusive. But, I loved him nonetheless and still, feel that he was "the one"...

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Put your synastry with him up on a new thread WITH the dark asteroids. I bet you had exact Nessus/Deja.

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posted December 30, 2011 09:35 PM            

Attached is the synastry between my daughter and I (I'm on the outside)...I couldn't remember all the asteroids when I made it...but I'm having a helluva time with her. I feel like, what's wrong with me?!

Just wondering if anything jumps out at you?

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posted December 30, 2011 09:38 PM            

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posted December 30, 2011 09:59 PM            

My daughter is 3.5 y.o. - I'm on the outside.

Take all the time you need - let me know if there is anything I can do for you.

posted December 30, 2011 10:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Places:
I completely understand. You've just had all that past dredged up again. Sorry love.

My daughter is 3.5 y.o. - I'm on the outside.

Take all the time you need - let me know if there is anything I can do for you.

LOVE.

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I am so glad you did. I just feel numb!

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posted December 31, 2011 01:13 PM            

It seems really hard, but I will be back to study, more.

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posted December 31, 2011 02:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Places:
Past lives or not - it's hard and heavy now. She's 3 and tells me regularly she hates me, and I constantly feel inadequate for her - no matter how good I am. She tells me she wants to go live with her dad - at this point, with so much negative energy surrounding our relationship - I'm heavily leaning towards that as the best option. They have the same Venus in Leo - they seem to understand eachother and he is much more tolerant of her ill-behavior than I ever could be. He takes it in stride. Perhaps I'm too immature to be a good mom - it kills me that this is even a dilemma in my life.

Sorry if that's TMI...I really need a shrink.

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No, very little is TMI for me. I have a full 8th house, Scorpio ASC and Pluto conj the MC. I can't take superficial

This synastry is very, very hard.
On a separate thread, put up the Comp, if you want.

I need to clean some things, but will be back.

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posted January 02, 2012 02:59 PM            

I have some ideas about the Chiron person vs the planet person. The Chison person needs to be healed and comes to the planet person FOR healing.

So, for you YOU would be going to her for healing. So, you would need to watch that you don't need her to parent you.

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posted January 02, 2012 03:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Places:
That's a valid observation - I am really needy...I feel a need to be 'validated' by her in a way - which is totally unfair. I have got going for me an awareness of my dysfunction (thank goodness i've got that - along with a VERY real desire to better myself for her).

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The best thing you could do with this reading, and you ARE, is be scrupulously honest. The chart readings, at this level, are better than thousands of dollars worth of therapy.

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posted January 02, 2012 04:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Places:
It's so true! There's no purpose in you doing all this work, and then me dodging the truth. But, then - you know I can't dodge the truth anyhow

Thanks for being an ambassador to my transformation!

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Thank you for allowing me to transform with you, too! We are study partners.

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posted January 02, 2012 04:08 PM            

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posted January 02, 2012 04:22 PM            

Her Uranus hits your Pholus. I can't think of a wrose planet to hit Pholus. Did I give you the Pholus info. Can't remember. I will again.
Uranus wants to break apart old structures.It is the rebel. Her Uranus is trying to break apart your Pholus which ALREADY is an ape in the China chop by the nature of Pholus. I can only imagine how this one aspect would feel and this is just one in the plethora of them

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posted January 02, 2012 04:23 PM            

With asteroids, one must do one’s own research, as there can be precious little information available. I have been checking out Pholus in charts and have come to this conclusion. Pholus explodes what it touches. If Pholus touches Chiron, the planet of pain, a person will explode with his pain. If Pholus touches Ceres, the asteroid of unconditional love, the person may be a teacher who gives unconditional love to her students. This was the case in a chart I did. If one persons Pholus touches another persons planet, the Pholus person can make the planet person “explode” in that area. By explode, I mean come forth and break open. I liken it to an infection which comes to a head. Then, it can open and heal.. Each energy is part of being human. One must embrace each part of the chart as one must embrace each part of oneself.

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posted January 02, 2012 04:24 PM            

I have named Pholus the “Ape in the China Shop” Asteroid. Pholus explodes on the scene. He can explode with whatever emotion is bothering him. He emotes, with little sensitivity to his environment. After he explodes with emotion, he does not have a sense of the havoc he has wreaked. Then, he, usually, blames someone else. Pholus is not manipulative, as much as childlike. If he wants to emote, you can be sure he will: the devil may care.

A woman had a man’s Pholus conjunct her NN. Indeed, it was an explosive relationship. It was not violent, per se, but high drama.

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posted January 02, 2012 05:06 PM            

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HER Nessus is conjunct your Mars which means she is going to WANT to abuse you. Nessus is simply this energy. She touches you in your drive,passion, assertion/aggression energy which could be explosive. This is what I would say, talking truth now. She wants to abuse you, as it is in the synastry. Know this, and work with it, the best you can. This synastry is very difficult. You are feeling so stressed due to this! It is real. You are not imagining it or making it up.It is all here, in black and white.

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There is something bittersweet and beautiful in the black-and-whiteness of this. I live in the gray of the universe, and it does tend to leave me wondering if I'm imagining things...I think I actually can work with this.

And Pholus - I remember you describing that before (i'll have to read back to recollect what the conjunction was - but it was her Pholus, my something big) - so her Radically, transformational upheaval planetary energy is conjunct my asteroid energy that wants to explode that which it touches...Hmmm...maybe this is one reason I feel a need to control her so much? I'm not really into controlling people at all - I hate it about myself that I can't just let her run wild and free - that's the best part of life and childhood especially.

And, she's definitely here to help me evolve...Her Chiron on my Sun: I need to not impose the role of Healer on her, as my truest nature can help her to heal it seems; but as lost as I've become from my truest nature since becoming her mother - perhaps she will help me to heal with some of that other more explosive energy if only i can understand it and control myself...?

Like harnessing the power of a supernova!

I'm so glad we're study partners!

posted January 02, 2012 05:13 PM            

I do know she's a tremendous flirt, with all of my male friends, sometimes, I kinda wonder...but I'm a very good example for her in terms of self-respect, confidence in brains/talents/beauty...I can only do my best in a media-saturated world to raise a young woman who values herself more highly than this world does.

She'll be living with her father 3/7 days a week in february going forward, so hopefully, her need for male attention will dissipate. It must be disturbing to see this conjunction - considering you've seen it in your mother's chart. It's in her first house, so close to her Moon and Pholus. What do you suppose that means?