posted January 11, 2012 12:58 PM
Hi 
As suggested by Ami Anne I've created a thread to explore what is known of the asteroid Swindle (8690) and try to relate that to the chart below. This chart is me and a man I've only just met but already (thanks to some intense placements like Venus conj Chiron and Asc conj Moon) things are getting pretty full on rather quick! But because I feel uneasy (almost like I can't trust his compliments which seem to trip off his tongue like honey lol) Ami Anne suggested we look at Swindle, Lie, Dejaneria and Nessus. So far I can see that there aren't any actual squares or oppositions between Swindle and Lie or even Nessus and Dejaneria (phew!) but I still feel very wary... as though I'm watching a skilled magician and looking closely to see how the trick is done! ;D
This is all I could find on Swindle... most of it came from threads on here funnily enough!
"I've done some research into couples that I know. Most of them had swindle conjunct, opp, or square venus. Maybe it means you steal someone's heart.
me and JOhn have
his swindle cj my Venus...yup!he stole my heart
I have Swindle conjunct Neptune by 1 and with an ex of mine, my Swindle is conjunct his Venus by 2. Did I "swindle" him? No. He was flirty with me, I developed a huge crush on him, dumped my long term boyfriend to date him and then HE dumped me after a month. So some would say HE swindled ME lol.
My current boyfriend has Swindle conjunct ASC exactly. He's not much of a swindler.
dude conned me for 16,000 dollars last year.
his swindle was conj my asc by 2 deg.
SWINDLE to Saturn double whammy means you both had swindled each other atleast once in a past life, and in this lifeline you will either
a) Easily spot other swindlers
b) Get swindled together if not careful
c) Be wary of each other due to the past lifeline effect.
SWINDLE in synastry must be checked along with Asteroid LIE. It is a combination of these two that is very troublesome.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/203577-2.html
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Note: Dangerous Aspect that needs an astrologer's opinion is negative
aspects to Nessus and Dejanira.
Male's Nessus/Pluto/Mars squaring Female's Dejanira even by 3 degrees is dangerous.
Other negative aspects are of Asteroid Swindle/Lie. Any guy with Neptune conjunct Swindle or Lie squaring
the girl's Dejanira has chances of taking her for a ride.
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Swindle
Asteroid 8690 Swindle was discovered September 24, 1992 by the Spacewatch group at Kitt Peak Observatory near Sells, Arizona. It has a period of 3 years, 253 days. It was named for meteorite expert Timothy D. Swindle (born 1955).
Astrologically, asteroid Swindle seems to mean what its name suggests: to swindle.
Con artist turned white-collar-crime consultant Frank Abagnale has Jupiter square Swindle.
Legendary high-flying Texas con artist Billie Sol Estes has Uranus square Swindle. He has been characterized as "not a bad guy, as long as you don't go into business with him."
Teenage baseball player Danny Almonte (born April 7, 1987, in Moca, Dominican Republic), whose parents forged his birth certificate to get him onto a New York City Little League team when he was too old to qualify for membership, has Swindle sesquiquadrate Chiron (a maverick) and quincunx Mars (athletics).
Kenneth Lay of Enron infamy has Swindle conjunct Chiron (ingenuity), semisquare Mars (energy), and quincunx Venus (luxury, money, values, indignation).
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A bit about the Asteroid Lie
Lie was discovered 1997 June 30, 1997 by Paul G. Comba at Prescott, Arizona. It has a period of 3 years, 177 days..
Astrologically, Lie seems to mean what its name suggests to English-speakers by its spelling: to lie. (Actually, though, Sophus Lie's last name is pronounced Lee.)
Adolf Hitler had Lie in the third house, opposite Pallas (politics) and the Part of Fortune, and also sesquiquadrate his Venus (values) and Mars (aggression).
His henchman, master propagandist Joseph Goebbels, had Lie in the tenth house, opposite Uranus.
Disgraced televangelist Jimmy Swaggart, a notorious sexual moralizer whose career collapsed after he was caught patronizing prostitutes, has Lie in the tenth house conjunct Mercury, sextile Nessus (greed and lust), square Pallas, and quincunx Pluto (self-sabotage).
Charles Manson has Lie in the eighth house semisquare the Moon, sextile Damocles, and quincunx the Part of Fortune.
Oliver Stone, known for his somewhat fictionalized pseudo-documentary movies (JFK, Nixon) that reflect his personal beliefs, has Lie in the eighth house square Dolon (patriotism issues), sesquiquadrate Juno, and opposite Lilith, which reflects his left-leaning political views.
J. Edgar Hoover had Lie in the seventh house, square Hidalgo, sesquiquadrate Pallas and quincunx Cruithne: He stopped at nothing to promote his personal vision of law and order in America, except when the Mafia was threatening to out him as gay if he didn't protect them.
Con artist turned white-collar crime consultant Frank Abagnale (born April 27, 1948, in New Rochelle, New York), has Lie opposite Mercury, and also Askalaphus (to divulge or reveal).
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Any thoughts and observations welcome!!
Lindaland
posted January 11, 2012 12:58 PM
We also had Swindle sq Lie. Looking at what people have said about this aspect it fits exactly what happened in the end. 
