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Ami Anne
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posted March 02, 2012 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will come back tomorrow Sweetie

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posted March 02, 2012 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I don't know. There are many. I can't just answer yes or no to something like that. I'm sorry.


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posted March 02, 2012 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It is hard to wrap your mind around this. I am feeling you cannot deal with Ixion near Pluto. I will put some info up


I know little about the asteroid aspects but if you would like to inform me I would be grateful.

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posted March 03, 2012 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I know little about the asteroid aspects but if you would like to inform me I would be grateful.

best place to get asteriod interpretations are post your chart in 'asteriod forum' there is a Mod/member called IQ which specialises..

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posted March 03, 2012 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I know little about the asteroid aspects but if you would like to inform me I would be grateful.


Sure--My pleasure. The main thing would be for you to think about each thing I post.If I throw a bunch of stuff at you, it will not help.

So, as far as Ixiion and Pluto --with Mars hitting that--do you want to talk about that.I think that was a big part of your breakdown imho.

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posted March 03, 2012 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asteroid Ixiion Makes “Lawless” What it Touches
By amiann | Published: January 18, 2012 |

The asteroid Ixiion is complete lawlessness with no care for the outcome. When it touches an asteroid such as Lilith, which is raw sexuality, or Nessus which is abuse/obsession, you can imagine what havoc it may wreak. Xiion can touch any planet or asteroid. I am watching it, in the charts, to see what I may find. Please, share any information you may have. I think there is a wealth of information in this asteroid

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posted March 03, 2012 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Darkness and the Chart
By amiann | Published: February 3, 2012 |

If a child is sexually abused, darkness enters the child’s soul. The chart shows this. For the first time, a person may have his reality verified. Sexual abuse is hidden. The abuser will lie about what he did, more often than not. That leaves the child doubting his reality.Often, the child has to stand alone and watch his family deny his reality. He may have no family, as he must choose between his own sanity and belonging. The astrologer can bring light to the person, in that everything shows in the chart. Sexual abuse shows, quite clearly. There are a group of what I call “dark asteroids”. There are more, I am sure. The astrologer is on a continual quest to study asteroids, as there are thousands. However, the ones I use are Nessus, Dejaneria, Hekate, Eros,Sappho, Kaali, Ixiion, Sedna,Pholus, Medusa, Lilith,Child and Chiron. Some of these are not dark, per se. However, if they combine with dark ones, there can be great pain, resulting.

I will do a quick run down of these asteroids.

Nessus–the abuser, wanting to abuse

Dejaneria–the victim, wanting to give up and let oneself be abused

Sedna–betrayal by men, betrayal by the father

Medusa—jealousy by woman for Medusa’s beauty resulting in a betrayal by another woman and loss of much, to the native. As a result, the native may live with the effects for a lifetime. A protective strength will develop, but it is based on rage. Her rage toward woman seems to be directed toward men. She becomes very strong as a result of this core of anger.

Ixiion–lawlessness without any care for the consequences

Chiron–the wound which never heals, but from which one can heal others

Eros– one’s erotic nature

Sappho–one’s erotic nature combined with a love of literature,music and art to produce an eroticism that is wedded to the arts

Hekate–one’s shadow self

Kaali–one’s basic energy

Pholus— where one explodes in a tantrum like way. Pholus explodes what it touches. If it touches Chiron, one’s pain explodes.

Child–ones inner child, what one experienced as a child

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posted March 03, 2012 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok---Pluto--the deepest primal instincts of a person is conj Ixiion in your natal chart.Ixiion makes lawless what it touches. My guess is that you have struggled with this for a long time and maybe had no one to tell or maybe could not face it yourself. When Mars came by in transit, it blew the lid off it.

Chiron conj the MC made you feel overcome with pain about your future and a pain that felt it would never heal. These things seem like they may be the factors in your breakdown.

What do you think?

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posted March 04, 2012 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those weird shapes are for apostrophes. My website does that for some reason. Bump this up if you want me to look at it Sweetie

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posted March 04, 2012 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for uranusingleton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You had a burnout. Here http://www.helpguide.org/mental/burnout_signs_symptoms.htm

Get rested!
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posted March 07, 2012 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How are you doing Sweetie? Just check in

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posted March 07, 2012 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by uranusingleton:
You had a burnout. Here http://www.helpguide.org/mental/burnout_signs_symptoms.htm

Get rested!
Regards.


iv had this as well. dunno what it was astro wise but i do remember reading about it here. mars in scorpio?

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posted March 09, 2012 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Desiring Shadows,

Can you post the chart w.natal/progressed/solar arc for the day the illness hit, or for now if it's still ongoing.
I've been researching this very thing lately and I've noticed a pattern but I want to see if it's in your chart.

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posted March 09, 2012 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apart from the solar arcs (which would be ideal to have in addition to the chart you posted) I can tell you right now that what you're going through will persist through the rest of the year: transiting Saturn is going over your progressed Sun and your n.NN. So your life purpose is being challenged and you are set to go off on a new course, you need to make changes, significant ones, you're pressured to make these changes because they will affect your life for years. Years from now you'll be looking back at this time as a turning point but for now, because your Sun/Saturn/NN stellium is squaring n.Uranus/Neptune there are significant structures dissolving around you and you might feel out of control. When you need to make significant changes it's important to feel that there is a touchstone, something solid to hold you through the storm and right now it feels like whatever propped you up is disintegrating before your eyes. And it is in a sense, but it is a temporary phase; you will be building things anew, you will be making important significant changes but you're challenged now to accept realities even though it is tough.

The transiting Uranus sq Pluto from Aries to Capricorn is also tsquaring your natal Sun/Chiron which adds to the above, it places extra stress on the matter. It's not just one transit/progression you're going through, it is all of them added up together that brings you to this crisis point. My best bet is that there were significant changes that you have needed to make for a while regarding your direction/purpose but you failed to act on them and so now life is making those changes for you, pulling you away from a course of action you were on. Apparently it was not in your best interests somehow, altho I can't say specifics since I don't know your situation but you have to know that altho transit Saturn/Uranus/Pluto are going to be hanging out at significant stress points in your chart, they will not be there forever, as they say this will pass. But in the meantime you have to hold on. This is a painful time but the way to get through this is to banish all externals, every superficial involvement (n.Sun sq t.Pluto) and dig deep within to get to the core of who you are and what drives you, what you love, and what motivates you. It might feel as if people around you are trying to feed you too much info and your mind turns into some sort of cobweb, if that is the case then it's a sign that you need to seek your own wisdom, from inside, and not rely on the demands of others. Find your inner voice, dig deep, banish non-essential people/things, and if you do that, if you stick through this and let the storm pass, then you will emerge a much more centered, confident and authentic person. But there is no doubt that you are at a significant turning point and with that brings a crisis.

Also important, you're entering a time period right now that will echo feelings that you had around early December of last year. If you were prone to do something rash then the feeling might come back, so be on the watch for the rest of March through at least the end of May because feelings could intensify then, do not take foolish risks.

Another significant crisis point for you will come up in 2016 thereabouts in the summer perhaps. Again, if there are changes to be made, then make them, make changes in accordance with what your inner wisdom is telling you regarding the most self sufficient, independent course for you to take. The Libra in you is not going to be happy about it but t.Uranus can and will pull the rug out if you are not instigating your own personal revolution (this is Uranus in Aries, it doesn't mess around). A significant time will also be when t.Uranus goes over your n.SN, and also when t.Pluto goes to conj your n.Uranus/Neptune, squaring your Nodes.

Many changes are in store in the years ahead so please hang on.
I can see the difficulty in your chart, a sense of hopelessness/despair, but you are being called upon to change course. Things may seem like they're crumbling all around you but this is not a permanent state.

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posted March 09, 2012 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok---Pluto--the deepest primal instincts of a person is conj Ixiion in your natal chart.Ixiion makes lawless what it touches. My guess is that you have struggled with this for a long time and maybe had no one to tell or maybe could not face it yourself. When Mars came by in transit, it blew the lid off it.

Chiron conj the MC made you feel overcome with pain about your future and a pain that felt it would never heal. These things seem like they may be the factors in your breakdown.

What do you think?


I think thats true about the lid being blown off. I still have trouble with knowing what I want out of my life.
I think that was an excellent interpretation. Applause for you, Ami Anne, one the best on the site.

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posted March 09, 2012 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Apart from the solar arcs (which would be ideal to have in addition to the chart you posted) I can tell you right now that what you're going through will persist through the rest of the year: transiting Saturn is going over your progressed Sun and your n.NN. So your life purpose is being challenged and you are set to go off on a new course, you need to make changes, significant ones, you're pressured to make these changes because they will affect your life for years. Years from now you'll be looking back at this time as a turning point but for now, because your Sun/Saturn/NN stellium is squaring n.Uranus/Neptune there are significant structures dissolving around you and you might feel out of control. When you need to make significant changes it's important to feel that there is a touchstone, something solid to hold you through the storm and right now it feels like whatever propped you up is disintegrating before your eyes. And it is in a sense, but it is a temporary phase; you will be building things anew, you will be making important significant changes but you're challenged now to accept realities even though it is tough.

The transiting Uranus sq Pluto from Aries to Capricorn is also tsquaring your natal Sun/Chiron which adds to the above, it places extra stress on the matter. It's not just one transit/progression you're going through, it is all of them added up together that brings you to this crisis point. My best bet is that there were significant changes that you have needed to make for a while regarding your direction/purpose but you failed to act on them and so now life is making those changes for you, pulling you away from a course of action you were on. Apparently it was not in your best interests somehow, altho I can't say specifics since I don't know your situation but you have to know that altho transit Saturn/Uranus/Pluto are going to be hanging out at significant stress points in your chart, they will not be there forever, as they say this will pass. But in the meantime you have to hold on. This is a painful time but the way to get through this is to banish all externals, every superficial involvement (n.Sun sq t.Pluto) and dig deep within to get to the core of who you are and what drives you, what you love, and what motivates you. It might feel as if people around you are trying to feed you too much info and your mind turns into some sort of cobweb, if that is the case then it's a sign that you need to seek your own wisdom, from inside, and not rely on the demands of others. Find your inner voice, dig deep, banish non-essential people/things, and if you do that, if you stick through this and let the storm pass, then you will emerge a much more centered, confident and authentic person. But there is no doubt that you are at a significant turning point and with that brings a crisis.

Also important, you're entering a time period right now that will echo feelings that you had around early December of last year. If you were prone to do something rash then the feeling might come back, so be on the watch for the rest of March through at least the end of May because feelings could intensify then, do not take foolish risks.

Another significant crisis point for you will come up in 2016 thereabouts in the summer perhaps. Again, if there are changes to be made, then make them, make changes in accordance with what your inner wisdom is telling you regarding the most self sufficient, independent course for you to take. The Libra in you is not going to be happy about it but t.Uranus can and will pull the rug out if you are not instigating your own personal revolution (this is Uranus in Aries, it doesn't mess around). A significant time will also be when t.Uranus goes over your n.SN, and also when t.Pluto goes to conj your n.Uranus/Neptune, squaring your Nodes.

Many changes are in store in the years ahead so please hang on.
I can see the difficulty in your chart, a sense of hopelessness/despair, but you are being called upon to change course. Things may seem like they're crumbling all around you but this is not a permanent state.


Absolutely amazing interpretation of everything thats going on. You summed it up.. And as for 2016, I really hope not. I hope that you are wrong about because I just want this madness to end.

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posted March 09, 2012 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Desiring Shadows,

Can you post the chart w.natal/progressed/solar arc for the day the illness hit, or for now if it's still ongoing.
I've been researching this very thing lately and I've noticed a pattern but I want to see if it's in your chart.


It's still going-- but I'm not going to do anything about it anymore. No matter how much I want to. The pain alone will kill me faster than me acting on it. I'll just wait for things to get better. A pattern?

Here's the now. You don't have to interpret more, I'm already very satisfied. Please don't feel obligated to. (You did a very great job! )
For the patterns sake I will post it. I am so sorry for the late reply. I've just been trying to let this whole mental hospital/breakdown situation fade away from my conscious mind for a while.

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"And as for 2016, I really hope not. I hope that you are wrong about because I just want this madness to end."
---2016 thereabouts bring t.Uranus in Aries into a tsquare with your n.Nodes and n.Uranus/Neptune. Anything tied to the nodes is referencing your path in life, Uranus brings change, and Neptune references a dream/an ideal. Natally your Venus is somewhat tied into the Uranus/Neptune/Nodes square, so it may be that there is something sudden connected to a relationship that necessitates a reality check. You are somewhat primed with the n.Venus sq Neptune to be somewhat idealistic in relationships, so when Uranus goes to oppose your n.Venus you will likely be in for some changes. Since it is Uranus in Aries, I would just stay away from anyone who might take advantage of you (since Venus/Neptune is an indicator of vulnerability), and also people who are prone to making rash decisions (referencing Uranus in Aries in aspect to your Venus).
There's also something else in your chart that is a stumbling block, the Uranus exact square to your Nodes. If you're prone to being somewhat out of step with society as Uranus hard aspect to the nodes might indicate, you would really do yourself a favor and avoid future unnecessary grief, if you reigned in the rebellious aspect of your personality a bit, since it is literally pulling you to be discordant with the path you're here to take (the Nodal axis). The NN is in Libra in the 5th so the work to do is really on partnering with others, possibly in a creative field or with children, learning to compromise, to collaborate on a creative project perhaps. You have to play with the nodes a bit to figure it out for yourself. Literally, the more you act out your Uranus, since it is sq the nodes, the more difficult instances like this will come your way. At crisis points in life, with progressions/solar arcs/transits, the nodes are always involved, and since in the yrs ahead you will have Uranus and Pluto making stress aspects to it you will really be well advised to move away from being different just for the sake of it, or any rebel without a cause mentality. Like I say I don't know you, but the squares to the nodes can be incredibly self-defeating OR they can be used in accordance with the nodes in a very life affirming manner. It is really your choice, but above all, try to tone down negative Uranus traits, and accentuate the positives. If possible, eliminate all negative manifestations of that point in your chart. You have probably seen where you acted it out in a negative manner the consequences of it completely side swiped you from the reactions of others. This is a clue that using it in a positive manner will benefit you immensely.

"It's still going-- but I'm not going to do anything about it anymore. No matter how much I want to. The pain alone will kill me faster than me acting on it."
---If there's negative thinking it helps to treat the thoughts as just passing objects in your mind, to try to disassociate from them if that is possible. In meditation they say to distance yourself from your thoughts, let them pass through but feel no attachment. It is a storm, and it is easier to try to run away from it into addictions, etc. as some do, but it is better to face it imo because the unacknowledged past has a way of coming back with a vengeance. This has been my experience with depression as well as the experience of those I've been in contact with. It is much harder to face it, but if you do then if/when it comes around again you will know that you can withstand it. I have Capricorn Moon sq Saturn/Pluto so I've had enough experience with this.

"I'll just wait for things to get better."
---This is temporary even though it feels like it's not. The thing is that your vision is clouded by this, but it's just for the time being. Just because you can't see something beyond this, doesn't mean that it's not there. Our minds play tricks on us all the time. Reference a documentary on National Geographic called Brain Games. You can even watch it for free here. You'd prob get a kick out of it concerning your state right now; it's all about optical illusions and how the mind plays tricks.

"A pattern?"
---Related to this sort of depression, it sounds like depression to me at least. But not referencing the natal exactly, how the natal interacts with solar arcs/transits/progressions.

Now with your solar arcs, you can see Saturn at the top in blue, your n.Saturn has solar arc'd to conj t.Uranus opp n.Sun/Chiron and it brings in t.Pluto. Sa.Moon is sq Chiron as well so you have a Sun/Chiron/Saturn/Uranus/Pluto tsquare at the moment. Saturn's actually come to solar arc oppose your natal Sun exactly. Do you have a current issue related to feeling lacking in authority completely? Feeling very insecure about that and wanting more responsibility/more knowledge of how something is run so that you're pursuing it aggressively to a certain extent, to mask the insecurity? Or were you, and then t.Uranus threw that into a tailspin? There's an issue there that needs to be resolved. Make any amends with the authority figures in your life, leave them, and grow into your own authority, you're being challenged to do that now. You can do it convincingly but it will take some work. It's exact so this should be something that's operating in your consciousness right now. With t.Pluto squaring that opp possibly there was some some loss of authority figure in your life, I can't say for certain, but it definitely adds an obsessive impulse to this, a hard push to get to the bottom of this that might manifest currently as a lot of stress surrounding this issue.

Another exact aspect like I mentioned is sa.Moon sq n.Chiron. There was some painful event that impacted you negatively on an emotional level so there needs to be a lot of healing going on for you. The issue with this is that Sun/Saturn opp exact is a harsh aspect, you being harsh to yourself and/or to others who might be there to help you, because that opp doesn't want to be vulnerable. You also have n.Moon sq Saturn which exacerbates, there is this tendency to go it alone emotionally. So if there are people around you offering help, please take it, because you need to heal, to rest, to take a break. You do feel a push to own up to authority but don't forget that you have an emotional dimension as well as a part of you that wants to self-actualize/call the shots.

Another thing that's important, and I don't want to alarm you, but I want to re-emphasize to you to not do anything rash or take foolish risks. You can see with the solar arc that n.NN sq Uranus/Neptune has solar arc'd to conj n.Mars in Scorpio. Transiting Mars will enter Scorpio on 8/23/12. It will also be in Libra starting 7/3/12. Honestly, even if you feel an immense amount of anger rising up, I would caution you to avoid arguments as you are at a v.sensitive time in those months (and also in the previously stated time period up until late May, but also be cautious in June). Avoid people also who seem unstable. The reason for this is the hard Mars/Uranus aspects. It will happen when t.Mars is on your n.NN sq to n.Uranus, and also when t.Mars is on your sa.NN/n.Mars. Since n.Mars is under the influence of sa.Neptune/Uranus I would also caution against being under the influence with recreational drugs and alcohol as they could impair your judgment at this sensitive time. So if possible be around laid back, level headed people. Stay away from anyone you know who is prone to outbursts, etc. I do not mean to frighten you but you do have a choice regarding how situations will play out. You can choose to surround yourself with positive/helpful individuals, being kinder to yourself, etc. It will likely be difficult to control anger at this time, so just be prepared. Mars/Uranus hard aspects point to unstable anger, something that kicks off all of a sudden, and Scorpio is a vengeful sign. This could be energy coming up in you directed at yourself or another, or from another directed at you. I would also caution to stay away from anyone trying to re-enter your life at this time mentioned, esp a male, because they may not have your best interests at heart, no matter what they say. Mars/Neptune combinations like you have at this time could also stand for a deceitful male, and on its own it also stands for intoxication which is why I caution against illegal substances/alcohol at this time. Just keep focused on healing, on centering yourself, staying strong in yourself, being kind to yourself. Positive visualizations, etc.

This is something that will help at this time and throughout this Summer, at any crisis point, VIOLET VISUALIZATION for Psychic Protection
this is by iQ who posts here regularly; it's very good.

There's more than what I wrote. If you like, you can research transit Uranus and transit Neptune in opposition to Moon. They're just overall going to point to increased sensitivity at this time but they will yield more info for you than that. I feel as if I've written more than you may possibly want to read at this point, so i will close.

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posted March 11, 2012 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thinking of you DS

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posted March 12, 2012 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
"And as for 2016, I really hope not. I hope that you are wrong about because I just want this madness to end."
---2016 thereabouts bring t.Uranus in Aries into a tsquare with your n.Nodes and n.Uranus/Neptune. Anything tied to the nodes is referencing your path in life, Uranus brings change, and Neptune references a dream/an ideal. Natally your Venus is somewhat tied into the Uranus/Neptune/Nodes square, so it may be that there is something sudden connected to a relationship that necessitates a reality check. You are somewhat primed with the n.Venus sq Neptune to be somewhat idealistic in relationships, so when Uranus goes to oppose your n.Venus you will likely be in for some changes. Since it is Uranus in Aries, I would just stay away from anyone who might take advantage of you (since Venus/Neptune is an indicator of vulnerability), and also people who are prone to making rash decisions (referencing Uranus in Aries in aspect to your Venus).
There's also something else in your chart that is a stumbling block, the Uranus exact square to your Nodes. If you're prone to being somewhat out of step with society as Uranus hard aspect to the nodes might indicate, you would really do yourself a favor and avoid future unnecessary grief, if you reigned in the rebellious aspect of your personality a bit, since it is literally pulling you to be discordant with the path you're here to take (the Nodal axis). The NN is in Libra in the 5th so the work to do is really on partnering with others, possibly in a creative field or with children, learning to compromise, to collaborate on a creative project perhaps. You have to play with the nodes a bit to figure it out for yourself. Literally, the more you act out your Uranus, since it is sq the nodes, the more difficult instances like this will come your way. At crisis points in life, with progressions/solar arcs/transits, the nodes are always involved, and since in the yrs ahead you will have Uranus and Pluto making stress aspects to it you will really be well advised to move away from being different just for the sake of it, or any rebel without a cause mentality. Like I say I don't know you, but the squares to the nodes can be incredibly self-defeating OR they can be used in accordance with the nodes in a very life affirming manner. It is really your choice, but above all, try to tone down negative Uranus traits, and accentuate the positives. If possible, eliminate all negative manifestations of that point in your chart. You have probably seen where you acted it out in a negative manner the consequences of it completely side swiped you from the reactions of others. This is a clue that using it in a positive manner will benefit you immensely.

"It's still going-- but I'm not going to do anything about it anymore. No matter how much I want to. The pain alone will kill me faster than me acting on it."
---If there's negative thinking it helps to treat the thoughts as just passing objects in your mind, to try to disassociate from them if that is possible. In meditation they say to distance yourself from your thoughts, let them pass through but feel no attachment. It is a storm, and it is easier to try to run away from it into addictions, etc. as some do, but it is better to face it imo because the unacknowledged past has a way of coming back with a vengeance. This has been my experience with depression as well as the experience of those I've been in contact with. It is much harder to face it, but if you do then if/when it comes around again you will know that you can withstand it. I have Capricorn Moon sq Saturn/Pluto so I've had enough experience with this.

"I'll just wait for things to get better."
---This is temporary even though it feels like it's not. The thing is that your vision is clouded by this, but it's just for the time being. Just because you can't see something beyond this, doesn't mean that it's not there. Our minds play tricks on us all the time. Reference a documentary on National Geographic called Brain Games. You can even watch it for free here. You'd prob get a kick out of it concerning your state right now; it's all about optical illusions and how the mind plays tricks.

"A pattern?"
---Related to this sort of depression, it sounds like depression to me at least. But not referencing the natal exactly, how the natal interacts with solar arcs/transits/progressions.

Now with your solar arcs, you can see Saturn at the top in blue, your n.Saturn has solar arc'd to conj t.Uranus opp n.Sun/Chiron and it brings in t.Pluto. Sa.Moon is sq Chiron as well so you have a Sun/Chiron/Saturn/Uranus/Pluto tsquare at the moment. Saturn's actually come to solar arc oppose your natal Sun exactly. Do you have a current issue related to feeling lacking in authority completely? Feeling very insecure about that and wanting more responsibility/more knowledge of how something is run so that you're pursuing it aggressively to a certain extent, to mask the insecurity? Or were you, and then t.Uranus threw that into a tailspin? There's an issue there that needs to be resolved. Make any amends with the authority figures in your life, leave them, and grow into your own authority, you're being challenged to do that now. You can do it convincingly but it will take some work. It's exact so this should be something that's operating in your consciousness right now. With t.Pluto squaring that opp possibly there was some some loss of authority figure in your life, I can't say for certain, but it definitely adds an obsessive impulse to this, a hard push to get to the bottom of this that might manifest currently as a lot of stress surrounding this issue.

Another exact aspect like I mentioned is sa.Moon sq n.Chiron. There was some painful event that impacted you negatively on an emotional level so there needs to be a lot of [b]healing going on for you. The issue with this is that Sun/Saturn opp exact is a harsh aspect, you being harsh to yourself and/or to others who might be there to help you, because that opp doesn't want to be vulnerable. You also have n.Moon sq Saturn which exacerbates, there is this tendency to go it alone emotionally. So if there are people around you offering help, please take it, because you need to heal, to rest, to take a break. You do feel a push to own up to authority but don't forget that you have an emotional dimension as well as a part of you that wants to self-actualize/call the shots.

Another thing that's important, and I don't want to alarm you, but I want to re-emphasize to you to not do anything rash or take foolish risks. You can see with the solar arc that n.NN sq Uranus/Neptune has solar arc'd to conj n.Mars in Scorpio. Transiting Mars will enter Scorpio on 8/23/12. It will also be in Libra starting 7/3/12. Honestly, even if you feel an immense amount of anger rising up, I would caution you to avoid arguments as you are at a v.sensitive time in those months (and also in the previously stated time period up until late May, but also be cautious in June). Avoid people also who seem unstable. The reason for this is the hard Mars/Uranus aspects. It will happen when t.Mars is on your n.NN sq to n.Uranus, and also when t.Mars is on your sa.NN/n.Mars. Since n.Mars is under the influence of sa.Neptune/Uranus I would also caution against being under the influence with recreational drugs and alcohol as they could impair your judgment at this sensitive time. So if possible be around laid back, level headed people. Stay away from anyone you know who is prone to outbursts, etc. I do not mean to frighten you but you do have a choice regarding how situations will play out. You can choose to surround yourself with positive/helpful individuals, being kinder to yourself, etc. It will likely be difficult to control anger at this time, so just be prepared. Mars/Uranus hard aspects point to unstable anger, something that kicks off all of a sudden, and Scorpio is a vengeful sign. This could be energy coming up in you directed at yourself or another, or from another directed at you. I would also caution to stay away from anyone trying to re-enter your life at this time mentioned, esp a male, because they may not have your best interests at heart, no matter what they say. Mars/Neptune combinations like you have at this time could also stand for a deceitful male, and on its own it also stands for intoxication which is why I caution against illegal substances/alcohol at this time. Just keep focused on healing, on centering yourself, staying strong in yourself, being kind to yourself. Positive visualizations, etc.

This is something that will help at this time and throughout this Summer, at any crisis point, VIOLET VISUALIZATION for Psychic Protection
this is by iQ who posts here regularly; it's very good.

There's more than what I wrote. If you like, you can research transit Uranus and transit Neptune in opposition to Moon. They're just overall going to point to increased sensitivity at this time but they will yield more info for you than that. I feel as if I've written more than you may possibly want to read at this point, so i will close.[/B]


Okay. Its funny because I have a guy friend who is trying to come back in my life. He does drugs and hes abusive towards me. We have venus square neptune and uranus in our synastry and thats how it has played out in real life. I was going to let him back in, (because duh, venus neptune. ??? Who wouldn't?) but now I'm not going to because I already have enough problems as is. I will research uranus and neptune transiting opposition moon! I will watch the optical illsuions video ( I love optical illusions btw. I recently checked out on a book on pictures of those.)
I did something dangerous recently. But i'm okay....I just have to find other ways to find enjoyment and know this is all a phase.... It will pass...... It will pass.. It will pass.
Also, you said something about losing a parental authority figure. I feel like I have. I feel like I have this new sense of freedom and all I want is to be reckless.... When my parents acted like it was nothing that I told them I was going to kill myself and missed all of this school... and when no one asked how I was doing..... kind of hurt but then again I didn't ask how they were doing either!
Maybe its because I realized not many people care about me and my time isn't valued. Thank you. But yeah I should know its a phase because people will eventually care. You have such a clear understanding of the aspects and thank you for sharing it with me. I will try to adversitise my actions and you can know that you have helped some depressed girl who will probably make better choices. (will attempt) Thanks again.

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Hi DS, I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience with that ex partner.

I'm going to give some key dates because there is a good chance that they will be important for your chart at this time. First I will give a period that just passed so you might look back at the energy then, what was going on for you, to see what I'm referring to. But all these dates trigger off different points.

2/26/12-3/4/12 - this one is referencing intense emotion + a deep desire to act out. Doesn't mean it will happen, but there is an urge that is being triggered and is difficult to ignore.
5/27/12-6/2/12 - this one is trying to bring resolution of some sort to whatever happened on the previous go-around (the above dates). An issue from the previous time will come back around.
10/25/12-10/30/12 - Very intense, but more importantly, it is a great time to push forward. Emotionally you might be very riled up but also very passionate. If there has been a specific issue in your life that the above 2 dates reference, then this time is excellent to make your point known and to make progress on the issue. You might meet inner resistance, negative self talk about the matter, but it is still a good time to go for what you want, because other people will likely not be as passionate as you so your will, will overcome that of someone standing in your way. More on this, below.

6/10/12-6/16/12 - possible frustration from an authority figure + depressive episode as a result. Go back to the time of 2/5/12-2/17/12 and even further back to 12/27/11-1/9/12 because the issue came up then.

When I give these dates, it doesn't mean it's time for a dramatic event of any sort, it could be a realization you have, it could be a call from someone that you don't pay much attention to, for example, but then the next date hits and the issue is brought to your attention again, in some form. It is basically energy that is building. Something you are made aware of and it goes through stages of trying to resolve itself; whatever action you take as a result, has a direct impact on the time in which it comes back around. But in the meantime you have a rest period, when you can turn your attention to other issues, or brainstorm on solutions, think of how you may react in a more beneficial manner for the next time. That is a good way to use the rest periods, because as each one hits it gives you greater insight on how to best move forward, giving you more info on the matter. Also the dates help with seeing how certain seemingly dissimilar events are connected, and you can possibly project into the future what the result might be when it does come back. You have sa.Pluto coming up to conj your n.Moon so you should be good with being perceptive at this time and understand what I'm talking about regarding personal forecasting.

There might be a strong desire to go on a completely different course around the dates of 7/10/12-7/18/12. I think you might want to break out of a rut then, and so implementing change is good, but just be mindful of the results that you might incur from imposing drastic change. You could also receive a message or be the messenger of something quite shocking so keep that in mind.

The dates that you'll want to be very careful around the intoxicated male, if he does make an entrance, or any other male esp (but could also be a female), or of being intoxicated yourself, are on or around 8/15/12-8/23/12 & the issue comes up again, maybe more intensely so, around 9/6/12-9/23/12. At both times there could be some type of fateful event. The 1st time related possibly to a romantic interest. The 2nd time related to a health matter, which is another reason why I caution with the illegal substances and people who are on them. The 2nd event is also likely to feel more fated because the nodes are involved. The nodes mark significant turning points and it's the second time frame that has a double emphasis on the nodes, vs.the 1st which is emphasizing them once. It is on these dates when you need to make your safety/security #1 priority, make you as #1 priority even if it seems that no one else is doing the same. Be aware of your surroundings, but really for the entire 2 mos of Aug & Sept you should be vigilant.

When I say fated, I mean potentially life changing, just to clarify; not that it's carved in stone, just that it relates significantly to your path in life. Fated times, to me, mean sensitive times when whatever decisions you make carry great ramifications. So it's important at those times to be hyper-aware of your actions/thoughts/surroundings, to be open to any symbols or signs that life is showing you, to trust your intuition, etc. Write back if this doesn't make sense to you, because it's important to understand this.

After this time period is a break, so you will have a bit of breathing room after this. For early - mid Oct. Then, like I said in late October, when you are full of passion, etc. and can push forward implementing changes. You will be very clear on your aims. It is a great time to assert yourself and get what you want, like I said, other people will likely not be as strong as you at this time. You may seem intimidating to others, but it is just a time of intense focus. You might also in mid-Oct feel a renewed sense of energy, it's temporary, but it gives a positive momentum to whatever you have got planned. Also around this time of late Oct there is one indicator for a loss of a female in your life, maybe a friend you cut ties with, or maybe your mother goes through a difficult time. There's intense feminine AND masculine energy now. You may make an important decision regarding a romantic relationship or may meet someone new.

I don't know if these dates will stand out for you, but based on your chart, progressions, and certain transits, these (theoretically) will be active times. That's why I gave past dates so you might look back and see if anything was of significance then, as a way to test it out for your situation. Hope it helps with forecasting trends in your life and how to best avoid detrimental outcomes

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