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andstuff
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posted August 13, 2012 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@hmm

Yeah it's totally true about the material side of the story. It is the act of HAVING something one has a fixation about. Emotions are also treated similarly, it is important to own them, ensure they are exactly right. Perhaps this is done with recourse to earth energy rather than water energy.

@PhoenixFire

4 pents in love means unhealthy clingyness, justified or not. Sometimes lack of breathing space for the partner too.

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posted August 13, 2012 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, you fight FREEk; you crack me up.

I type upwards of 90 wpm.

The rest of you I didn't read because as I clearly indicated, I'll not engage you in your stupid playground fight drama.

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Originally posted by andstuff:
I have no buddies here, as stated previously. I was not addressing you. Incidentally, if you were born in 67, your typing speed cannot be more than 30wpm, how did you manage to flood this forum with yourself in so little time?

It was Crowley who suggested sun in cap. You said at some point you weren't aware who he was until someone mentioned him here. His correapondences were delineated for his deck and they are very reductionistic.

Answer this without your usual pontificating: if Cap is about forward movement, how can 4 pents indicate clingyness, insecurity and holding onto things too much?

I would also like to signal that interpretation should be based on tradition. If you are holier than Waite just say so, we'll take on board. Have you read Waite s pictorial key? Or have you just become aware he wrote it? Anyone who's not banned from google can find it in PDF

And stop insulting me, you are not entitled. I have shown what I'm capable of. Playground indeed. Well if you were born in 67 perhaps we are playground creatures, who knows .....


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posted August 13, 2012 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whereabouts:
LOL, you fight FREEk; you crack me up.

I type upwards of 90 wpm.

The rest of you I didn't read because as I clearly indicated, I'll not engage you in your stupid playground fight. done.


stop. giving. me. names. when i was a kid people used to say "who gives names deserves them himself"

has it occurred to you that we discussed symbolism and iconography? guten tag!

90??? well done, you would be in demand as a secretary if your ejaculations contained fewer typos and grammar errors.

and what is a FREEK? pretty please i'm so wondering

you are mental, woman, you were the first one to address me ITT, now you're accusing me of all sorts of things. zero logic. i have had flatmates who never neutralised the smell of faeces in the toilet, your behaviour is not by any means surprising on this basis

also, how were you planning to engage me in a fight? what does this stand for?

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posted August 13, 2012 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://freek.urbanup.com/4180730

I'm "viewer2009". I wrote that definition of "FREEk".

FREEk

A posting rat - a forum troll. One who furiously posts under multiple identities using multiple IP locations to trick the viewer into thinking there are many posters when there is only one.

FREEk is the same as SybilFREEk

troll forum rat blog poster mpd posting goddess
by Viewer2009 Aug 16, 2009

You're beginning to sound like the other one. That's always the case, precisely what happens when one "devolves".

quote:
Originally posted by andstuff:
stop. giving. me. names. when i was a kid people used to say "who gives names deserves them himself"

has it occurred to you that we discussed symbolism and iconography? guten tag!

90??? well done, you would be in demand as a secretary if your ejaculations contained fewer typos and grammar errors.

and what is a FREEK? pretty please i'm so wondering

you are mental woman, you were the first one to address me ITT, now you're accusing me of all sorts of things. zero logic.


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posted August 13, 2012 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll not respond to you ilk again, andstuff. Have fun fighting by yourself. At least I can still watch. I'll make popcorn.

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posted August 13, 2012 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whereabouts:
I'll not respond to you ilk again, andstuff. Have fun fighting by yourself. At least I can still watch. I'll make popcorn.


i wish someone would ban you for insulting us. for the billionth time you were the fist one to insult me in this thread and you were the first one to insult me on this forum. you are defaming me. and not only me. at least you're trying. because you cannot. i am immune.

you have done 4 petty readings over 400 ejaculations. all you do is moralising and saying things devoid of meaning.

you haven't even apologised for insulting me and calling me a vampire. on your second day on this forum.

as Ros said come on, if you have any skills tell me who i am. age. hair colour. whats on my mind.

if you don't you have none. PERIOD.

oh did someone say 'period'? i just realised what the explanation for your behaviour is. but then it seems abnormally long, lol.

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posted August 13, 2012 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To everyone:

The troll's end goal is to get people banned. They'll stop at nothing in their egregious attempts to obtain their goal and get a person banned. They thrive on conflict and carefully choose their target. They are especially focused on any one person that can see right through them to the truth. In this case, that would be me.

Look for truth always and you will see it clearly. Hide beneath your own illusions and the truth will never be visible and you will easily be fooled.

The truth speaks for itself. Actions speak clearly where words create illusions.

quote:
Originally posted by andstuff:
i wish someone would ban you for insulting us. for the billionth time you were the fist one to insult me in this thread and you were the first one to insult me on this forum. you are defaming me. and not only me. at least you're trying. because you cannot. i am immune.

you have done 4 petty readings over 400 ejaculations. all you do is moralising and saying things devoid of meaning.

you haven't even apologised for insulting me and calling me a vampire. on your second day on this forum.

as Ros said come on, if you have any skills tell me who i am. age. hair colour. whats on my mind.

if you don't you have none. PERIOD.

oh did someone say 'period'? i just realised what the explanation for your behaviour is. but then it seems abnormally long, lol.


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posted August 13, 2012 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whereabouts:
To everyone:

The troll's end goal is to get people banned. They'll stop at nothing in their egregious attempts to obtain their goal and get a person banned. They thrive on conflict and carefully choose their target. They are especially focused on any one person that can see right through them to the truth. In this case, that would be me.

Look for truth always and you will see it clearly. Hide beneath your own illusions and the truth will never be visible and you will easily be fooled.

The truth speaks for itself. Actions speak clearly where words create illusions.


yes actions do speak. look at my readings and look at your own. look at the feedback i get.

i honestly just wanted to be able to exist on this forum without being defamed, harassed and insulted. because this has never happened to me before.

i haven't passed any judgment on anyone. i am just your average girl who goes to a supermarket to get fruit and veg and happens to know something or other.

what is your objective in insulting me and giving me names? because i never pick any fights with you, i'd really be delighted to ignore you if you weren't insulting me all the time.

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posted August 13, 2012 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Classic example: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/003897.html

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posted July 26, 2012 12:40 PM - andstuff wrote: i am sorry. you're coming across as an oxytocin-driven female who doesn't even read what's addressed to her and not willing to be flexible and allow of a possibility of being wrong. you're also coming across as insecure and apparently w problems re: personal/sexual fulfilment, because this is the only way of explaining why you're going so mental. best of luck. the thread wasn't even about you yet you made an appearance and made it about you and your epic relationship.

PS coming across as = acting like. whatever the reality is

I see the game you played here. You're attempting to do the same with me, and it's never going to fly with me.

Now, I'm finished. I've no more time for this pathetic drama.

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posted August 13, 2012 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whereabouts:
Classic example: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/003897.html

I see the game you played here. You're attempting to do the same with me, and it's never going to fly with me.

Now, I'm finished. I've no more time for this pathetic drama.


wow, you took the trouble of going back, lol. and you're saying you're finished. what happened between Empress and me is between Empress and me. She is not harassing me and we've pretty much left each other to our own devices.

she's not stalking me and Ros and doesn't spam out threads because of some differences. she is not insulting either of us. this is what is called being civilised. perhaps you might consider this as well.

i cannot stand humbly nodding when someone insults me. i will stand up and protect myself. this is all.

PS if you think i don't remember how you appeared, first nagging for free readings when nobody knew you, then commenting on every single topic and whatnot. well. i was a bit wtf. i may be allowed to be immature, but you, come on....

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posted August 13, 2012 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Precisely my point. Actions speak clearly where words create illusions.

quote:
Originally posted by andstuff:
wow, you took the trouble of going back, lol. and you're saying you're finished. what happened between Empress and me is between Empress and me. She is not harassing me and we've pretty much left each other to our own devices.

she's not stalking me and Ros and doesn't spam out threads because of some differences. she is not insulting either of us. this is what is called being civilised. perhaps you might consider this as well.

i cannot stand humbly nodding when someone insults me. i will stand up and protect myself. this is all.

PS if you think i don't remember how you appeared, first nagging for free readings when nobody knew you, then commenting on every single topic and whatnot. well. i was a bit wtf. i may be allowed to be immature, but you, come on....


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posted August 13, 2012 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whereabouts:
Precisely my point. Actions speak clearly where words create illusions.

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posted August 13, 2012 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by andstuff:

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posted August 13, 2012 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whereabouts, kill yourself now!

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posted August 13, 2012 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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quote:
Originally posted by Rosalind:
whereabouts, kill yourself now!

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posted August 13, 2012 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whereabouts:
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Look woman. I don't know who you are and what is your purpose on this forum (clearly you are envious about me and my talent and you want to gain popularity through lies and so on) but I will tell you this: You may lie the entire forum if you want I don't care, but if you insult me or andstuff once again I swear to God you will know me! Is that clear?

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posted August 13, 2012 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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quote:
Originally posted by Rosalind:
Look woman. I don't know who you are and what is your purpose on this forum (clearly you are envious about me and my talent and you want to gain popularity through lies and so on) but I will tell you this: You may lie the entire forum if you want I don't care, but if you insult me or andstuff once again I swear to God you will know me! Is that clear?

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posted August 13, 2012 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To anyone who chooses to tread through this slop posted above and for the record:

I don't envy anyone. I like everything about myself; I have never envied another because I do love myself.

Furthermore, I would NEVER be so dark inside to tell someone to kill themselves. The "TOS Rules" on one of my blog chats specifically reference this 'Go kill yourself" kind of remark, interestingly enough.

TOS rules from my own blog: http://whereabouts67.wordpress.com/tos-rules/

Actions speak clearly. Intent is obvious.

“The likelihood of one individual being right increases in direct proportion to the intensity to which others are trying to prove him wrong.”
- – Harry Segall

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posted August 13, 2012 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whereabouts:
To anyone who chooses to tread through this slop posted above and for the record:

I don't envy anyone. I like everything about myself; I have never envied another because I do love myself.

Furthermore, I would NEVER be so dark inside to tell someone to kill themselves.

Actions speak clearly. Intent is obvious.


telling someone to kill themselves is "words" that allegedly "create illusions"

helllooooo??? be consistent at least.

god, I so totally apologise to anyone who wanted a nice thread with a discussion about symbolism. i was the last person who wanted it to turn out this way.

i am profoundly disgusted with how it worked out.

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posted August 13, 2012 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I edited this 08.15.12 to add the following that I saw on one of 'andstuff's" thread. Their comments are about me. They'll stop at nothing to try to prove me wrong and destroy my reputation as they've been trying to do for more than 5 years. Beware of them as their intentions are VERY DARK:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/004081.html
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posted August 15, 2012 02:26 PM, andstuff said: well anytime, do let me know then

by the way it occurred to me the other day that the weird eloquent woman is actually mentally ill (as in medically. her blog contains tons of evidence). i am feeling so wrong now. basically whatever she says is not said because she is evil or malevolent or eccentric. it's not even because she's an idiot (as in non-medically), as one would have initially assumed. [i'll edit this out later, just in case]
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posted August 15, 2012 02:40 PM, Rosalind wrote: I saw her picture somewhere. She is definitely mentally ill.
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Again,

“The likelihood of one individual being right increases in direct proportion to the intensity to which others are trying to prove him wrong.”
- – Harry Segall

quote:
Originally posted by whereabouts:
To anyone who chooses to tread through this slop posted above and for the record:

I don't envy anyone. I like everything about myself; I have never envied another because I do love myself.

Furthermore, I would NEVER be so dark inside to tell someone to kill themselves. The "TOS Rules" on one of my blog chats specifically reference this 'Go kill yourself" kind of remark, interestingly enough.

TOS rules from my own blog: http://whereabouts67.wordpress.com/tos-rules/

Actions speak clearly. Intent is obvious.

“The likelihood of one individual being right increases in direct proportion to the intensity to which others are trying to prove him wrong.”
- – Harry Segall


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posted August 13, 2012 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ah well. you might move on to saying that whoever used the words like "i" and "and" is the same person as someone who's been leaving you comments.

what are you implying you're right about?

that you are right in calling me rubbish and freak and whatnot? once again, should i stand here humbly nodding and saying "yes ma'am, i am indeed rubbish and a freek and a silly person and you are so very right in your judgment" ?

i'm afraid this is not going to be possible. i said something about sun in cap. you never said it was the right correspondence. you said i was an idiot. why did you choose to do that? oh lol.

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posted August 13, 2012 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(edited 08.15.12 to add the following since this was blank on purpose. I just simply want to add clear evidence as follows):
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/003900-3.html
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Originally posted by isabelle_lila:
I will check that after diner (french hour time ). You know i'm a new comer but it could still be helpful to have a fresh pair of eyes.

Just a question in your way of picking cards : do you use inversed cards or not at all ?
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posted July 29, 2012 02:17 PM, whereabouts: Yes, I use reverse cards. They have two different meanings when using both upright and reversals and I like the results I get using reversals. For example, the Devil Reversed is GOOD. The 10 of Swords Reversed is good. The 7 of Cups Reversed means an individual IS seeing clearly, the same with the The Moon. I'm Pisces and when the High Priestess is in Reverse, I know I need to reexamine my line of thinking and thought processes for she's not thinking clearly, she's upside down.
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posted July 29, 2012 04:30 PM, "andstuff" said:

quote:
10 swords reversed is NOT good. the bad message is subverted and curtailed, but it cannot by any means be as good as 3 cups. it would be disgraceful to assume something of the kind. i hope you are joking.

iconographically speaking, what we see with the card when it's reversed (speaking of RW in this case) is the swords falling out of the body they're piercing, so one can LOOSELY assume it equals deliverance from pain, but the pain is still there, and so are the wounds. there's still a long way towards healing and joy.

Devil upright is also not bad, for heaven's sake. please be kind and do not misinform anyone who might be taken in.



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posted July 29, 2012 04:36 PM, whereabouts: I'm not joking and I know what the cards mean, especially to me, especially when I am reading them.

Take your negative garbage elsewhere. I'm not going to argue the meaning of cards with you.
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posted July 29, 2012 04:37 PM "andstuff" said:

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WTF???? Misleading information might be dangerous, that's all. And honestly top 5 reasons why I should do as you tell me? Are you anyone entitled to it or something?

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posted July 29, 2012 05:05 PM, whereabouts said: andstuff, there is nothing misleading about what I indicated about the cards. The cards have many different meanings. That is what Tarot is all about. Rigidity, adhering to a set-in-stone concept, is polar opposite to spirit where one must always remain objective and go with the flow in order to see truth. I disagree with your interpretation of the cards; that does not make me misleading in any way, shape or form. It means we don't agree. My experience tells me one thing and your tell you another. That's all.
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posted July 29, 2012 05:10 PM, "ROSALIND" said: Calm down. Take a deep breath. You know you are right about the semnifications. Why do you bother with liars?

whereabouts instead of critizing an expert like andstuff why don't go practice to become less horrible in your readings? You can fool everyone on this forum. Not me.
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posted July 29, 2012 05:19 PM, whereabouts said: Alrighty! I got through the slush (and threw my boot at him! lol, just kidding, of course).

I will see what comes through tomorrow morning (after I run my morning errand).

Thanks for all your wonderful support, NM; it means a lot to me
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It is OBVIOUS the intent behind "andstuff" and "Rosalind". These kind of continuous and deliberate actions of theirs speak VERY CLEARLY as to the nature of their nefarious intent. Nobody who has pure intentions does this. Nobody.

quote:
Originally posted by andstuff:
ah well. you might move on to saying that whoever used the words like "i" and "and" is the same person as someone who's been leaving you comments.

what are you implying you're right about?

that you are right in calling me rubbish and freak and whatnot? once again, should i stand here humbly nodding and saying "yes ma'am, i am indeed rubbish and a freek and a silly person and you are so very right in your judgment" ?

i'm afraid this is not going to be possible. i said something about sun in cap. you never said it was the right correspondence. you said i was an idiot. why did you choose to do that? oh lol.


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posted August 13, 2012 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 12, 2012 08:41 PM, Originally posted by whereabouts:
andstuff, there is no right and wrong with the astrological perspectives of the cards because the cards having varying meanings. It's up to the reader to determine that reading. I indicated what this card means to me. Why you are so bent out of shape over my own personal interpretation of the cards is beyond me. It is silly, childish, and profoundly ridiculous. If you want to act like your buddy and start a fight, then do it in the mirror and combat with yourself because you will not suck me into some negative childish brawl. I refuse to engage you in your playground bullying drama. Period.


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posted August 13, 2012 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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