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EmpressMendez
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posted March 23, 2013 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone looked back at their plain solar return charts (without the birth chart) & noticed why something happened to you that year? I'm clueless about Solar Returns & people always say you have to use the chart with your birth chart & not a single chart, but thought this was a bit cool (some minor observations)

2005/2006 Solar return. 2005 is when I met the father of my kids. I noticed some very cool things that would indicate I would be in a relationship, or at least have a positive relationship experience.

The things that stand out that indicate a relationship are:

Vertex and NN in 7th house.
Then we look @ Venus for love. It's conjunct Jupiter..2 of the most beneficial planets & together is nothing but good tidings. These two planets are not only conjunct, but they make harmonious aspects to other planets, no squares or oppositions at all. Also if you look at Saturn it's conjunct Moon and it's not making any other negative aspects (Saturn).


Then fast forward to 2012, when our relationship ended. Venus' only aspects is a square to Saturn. Oh, and Jupiter squares Sun. Even though 7th house has Fortune, but it's conjunct Pluto rx (Karma?) & Pluto Squares Uranus also rx.

For this year. I have Uranus in my 7th house, aah, but that is my chart ruler so not sure if that's bad or good. Venus opposes Uranus though..that's like a non-commitment aspect, or so I have read (I have Venus sextile Uranus natally). Moon is conjunct Jupiter so that looks good, but they are squaring and opposing other planets . Venus also makes a lot of squares and oppositions, but it makes a lot more aspects than my Venus in 2012, so at least that's a bit good, hehe.

Just wanted to share this. Have any of you looked at your past solar return charts and noticed some things that make sense about that particular year?

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posted March 23, 2013 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you make a SR chart for the past years on astro? I only know how to make this year's SR.

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posted March 23, 2013 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you're about to cast a chart look under options & just type in the year you want to see.

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posted March 23, 2013 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Empress!

SR chart for 2005:

I wss a VERY reserved teenager back then. I a very few friends. I did not show my true self much back then.

In 2005, I was at the height of being bullied in high school. Sun in the 1st is opposed the moon in the 7th. Since the moon represents women, it kinda relates to the difficulties I had with girls that time (I went to an all girls HS).

Difficulties in school was also indicated by Chiron in the 3rd, Saturn in the 9th conjunct MH. Neptune is also opposing Saturn. Since I had a very few friends, I escaped into my own world, and it almost took a toll on my studies (I almost failed math). This might be depicted by the Sun locked in a t-square with Saturn and neptune as the apex.

This was my first year in college, 2008:

The oppositions and squares here don't really relate with the great time I had during my first year in college. I opened up to people, met my real friends. It probably is shown by the Aries AC here and moon in the 11th. I also met my first love during this year. Venu was conjunct Pluto in the fifth. I was in love with him for 4 years. It was unreciprocated, though.

This year's SR chart:

Well, I think this chart looks good, with the Sun in the 1st making good aspects to other planets. Although I had difficulties in my last year of college but hey, I just graduated! Jupiter in the 9th conjunct MH probably indicates that. The moon is again, on the 7th and The sun is squaring Neptune in the 5th. Venus again is conjuncting Pluto in the 3rd. I'm not so sure what that says about my lovelife, though.

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posted March 23, 2013 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 24, 2013 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice Lunae, but sorry about the bullying . Your last chart has minor afflictions & Venus isn't afflicted at all. Jupiter on Mc, nicee .

Maybe you will meet someone this yeah, and the love will be reciprocated since there are no afflictions on Venus

Oh besides that sq to Uranus, but I think that means it will be something love @ first sight :3

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posted March 24, 2013 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a thing of the past, but thanks! The bullying made me a stronger person. I am not who I once was.

Love at first sight, you say? transit Uranus is currently opposing my natal venus, while t. Pluto is squaring it. Here, I have Venus conj Pluto and Venus square uranus.

You think this love at first sight thing has a "fated" feel to it, since this venus/pluto conj is conjuncting my natal NN?

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posted March 24, 2013 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MillyX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yay! I love Solar returns!

This was my Solar Return when I entered college.My 9th house was packed (rules higher education & travel). It was also the year I traveled to the States & discovered astrology <3


This is my Solar Return for this year. The solar return sun is in the 3rd house, which makes sense because I decided to go back to school & pursue my studies after dropping out of college last year. Pluto is dead on in the 4th house =\ I don't really know what it means. Mars is also there & yes there have been disagreements in my home...Ever since a certain family member decided to move in with us. Bringing all of her personal problems in the house...

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posted March 24, 2013 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They can be very informative. I check both the SR and SR+natal. Also someone posted once about making the SR charts with sidereal and what do you know, it's spot on!! Things that tropical didn't pick up were right there on sidereal!

I give a lot of importance to the house position of the Sun, NN and Sat in the SR, as these are the areas that will be most emphasized that year.

Mine is coming up in 2 weeks, I might put it up and request opinions as I feel this year is one of pivotal change for me.

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posted March 24, 2013 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, possibly it could also indicate an unconventional relationship that might not be long term :/, but since you have other good aspects on your Venus it might be good for you.

Mine looks horrible! Haha. I'm scared ;3

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It's a thing of the past, but thanks! The bullying made me a stronger person. I am not who I once was.

Love at first sight, you say? transit Uranus is currently opposing my natal venus, while t. Pluto is squaring it. Here, I have Venus conj Pluto and Venus square uranus.

You think this love at first sight thing has a "fated" feel to it, since this venus/pluto conj is conjuncting my natal NN?


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posted March 24, 2013 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is sidereal? I never found the natal + SR together accurate it confuses me, hehe.

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They can be very informative. I check both the SR and SR+natal. Also someone posted once about making the SR charts with sidereal and what do you know, it's spot on!! Things that tropical didn't pick up were right there on sidereal!

I give a lot of importance to the house position of the Sun, NN and Sat in the SR, as these are the areas that will be most emphasized that year.

Mine is coming up in 2 weeks, I might put it up and request opinions as I feel this year is one of pivotal change for me.


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posted March 24, 2013 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Julz87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Empress you´re back!! *hugs*

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posted March 24, 2013 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Julz I e-mailed you a long time ago, lol :3.

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posted March 25, 2013 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
[B]Yes, possibly it could also indicate an unconventional relationship that might not be long term :/, but since you have other good aspects on your Venus it might be good for you.

Mine looks horrible! Haha. I'm scared ;3


Lol it looks a bit challenging but not horrible (for me, that is). You do have two major configurations in your last SR chart: a grand cross and a kite. I think there would be focus on that moon-jupiter conjunction and the matters of the house where it sits. Career challenges and transformations, maybe?

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posted March 25, 2013 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hera:
They can be very informative. I check both the SR and SR+natal. Also someone posted once about making the SR charts with sidereal and what do you know, it's spot on!! Things that tropical didn't pick up were right there on sidereal!

I give a lot of importance to the house position of the Sun, NN and Sat in the SR, as these are the areas that will be most emphasized that year.

Mine is coming up in 2 weeks, I might put it up and request opinions as I feel this year is one of pivotal change for me.


How do you check the sidereal? I'm curious

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posted March 25, 2013 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lunae:
How do you check the sidereal? I'm curious



Under Options, you have:

Start date for charts marked with *:
House System:
Zodiac:
Reduce/increase orbs (0-150%):
Reference place:

In Zodiac input Fagan/Bradley geocentric (sidereal)

And that's it. You can use it for both SR and SR+natal.

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posted March 25, 2013 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Hera! I'm gonna try it soon

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posted March 25, 2013 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't find the thread about this, but found this link about precessed SR.
http://darkstarastrology.com/solar-return-charts-interpretation/comment-page-3/#commen ts


The emphasis is on angle conjunctions for the years that were life-altering and significant. Look back, I found smth on an angle every time, I think.

EDIT: Found it!!! http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/214940.html

Errr no, it was this one http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/213001.html

The more, the merrier, no?

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posted March 25, 2013 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, when you said angle conjunctions, I instantly noticed that the first two charts I posted had the same fixed angles as the sidereal chart. On the third one, my sidereal sun-pluto-mars in Libra conjunction is dead on the SR ascendant!

I must read more about sidereals. I am now curious about its accuracy. hmmmm.

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posted March 25, 2013 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, looks so scary since Venus is afflicted everywhere :S. You might be right about Moon+Jupiter in 10th house! I am starting to focus more on that :3. I'm slowly in the process of starting on my own ever since the loss I experienced last year in March. So far, it's slow, but hopefully it will pick up eventually! So you might be on to something .

I tried the sidereal and it is different. I would have to look closer to see anything that makes sense to me. It's so hard with the houses :P.

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Originally posted by Lunae:
Lol it looks a bit challenging but not horrible (for me, that is). You do have two major configurations in your last SR chart: a grand cross and a kite. I think there would be focus on that moon-jupiter conjunction and the matters of the house where it sits. Career challenges and transformations, maybe?

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posted April 01, 2013 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is when I started working for that Tarot company . NN in 9th Sag. Pluto in 10th & Jupiter in 2nd is what stands out the most for me. Neptune conjunct chiron in 12th of course. I consider the 6th house influence as well. Also moon in 7th I guess working with the public..

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