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starlitroad
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posted April 03, 2014 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted April 03, 2014 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh hi Starlitroad, hope you

yeah I see you have Venus conjunct Sun but not combusted, that's good. It's an attractive aspect. My friend have this and boys can't keep away from her lol. I have Mars in Aries too and I don't chase, I see it play out more when I express anger though. You know what, the bitter relationship you talked about just described Venus opp Pluto. Maybe his Libra Moon falls in your 8th, that'd fit the theme ^^. I just wonder if you have Uranus in synastry with him too. And the guy you're dating, wow Pisces Sun and Cancer ASC, must be very romantic and nurturing. I have a Scorpio Moon friend, very deep and selective, but loyal to boot. I guess he is a family orient kinda guy. And you have Moon conjunct Neptune, but also Uranus. I just don't understand what you mean by the getting cold when he is not around though?

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posted April 03, 2014 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, the break-ups and make-ups make me think of Uranus in synastry. And no, I don't it boring at all, it's just like talking to my girl friends, keep it up ^^. I don't remember when my Scorpio Moon firend sting (our friendship is quite old, 11 years already, wow, how time fly), but I can handle her, the key here is to be nonchalant when she explodes, and talk things through when she is reasonable. She has Moon square Mars, like you. How do you know you're in love, Star? I see in your chart that you're an introvert, right? All this transits makes me so emotional one minute, then numb the next. I see some threads about this affect too, must be heavy for everyone. For me it has starting from last year March with Saturn, the devil.
And the Mars in Aries, well, I have it in square to Saturn/Uranus/Neptune, he redeems himself a bit with a trine to my Sun, but that's about it. Mars is coruler of my 7th house, so although I have Venus-Pluto and thus crave a deep bond in love, with Mars square Uranus I also need time to be by myself.

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posted April 03, 2014 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Tulip! :) just woke up and entered lindaland..hehe..the thing with my friend is that she is also a scorpio sun...and dunno if I am mistaken...also merc in scorpio..and all of them in 8th house, it's a difficult position for the sun, she must have her own hardships :(

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posted April 04, 2014 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi , the sting definitely is Sun in Scorpio. My friend has Scorpio Moon in 8th house too, also Chiron in 4th, her childhood was not easy, but she learnt from it.

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still I keep everything to myself
Me too, although it must be all the Scorpio in my chart. Maybe because your Moon is in the first house, everyone can see it? My Mars is in 11th, the square to Saturn: my parents are very strict, wanted to know who is it that I hang out with and when I'd be home, especially my mother. There was times I'd rather be dead than face her wrath, not kidding. Although growing I have learn to act responsibly and appreciate this square more. The square to Neptune, I don't understand it yet. There was this article I read that said the Mars square Neptune can be very powerful, but I don't quite grasp the essence of it yet. It seems an ability to hipnotize an audiance, if I remember correctly. You can relate to that? Your T-square is very difficult but you'll learn and benefit from it. Loving responsibly, loyalty, intimacy, now that's true love to me. The Saturn transit is a critical time, you have the chance to learn now, don't let it go to waste.

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posted April 04, 2014 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello! :) Oh ...sorry to hear about your issues with parents...but yes...to be responsible it is safer..they probably do it for your own good..just that the method is not quite right..and abb mars square neptune I've read many things...such as powerfull imagination, issues in pin=pointing what one wants/needs and going directly for that thing...passive-agressiveness, somewhat perverted scenarios in one's mind..and also about that capturing an audience :) -

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Oh, I was a good little girl, it's just when they started restricting me that I decided I'd do what I want. But it's puberty, so you know, everyone rebells at one time or another.
What you said about Mars square Neptune is fascinating, I read that it could denote psychic ability, but very easily goes to the negative side it seems.
I think your Moon in 1st, conjunct Neptune and Uranus can play a large role in your ability to speak before a large crowd. The Moon is subtle but powerful, the tides flow and ebb with her, and her light is so soothing unlike that of the Sun. I think you should look more to the Fixed Stars. I see some of it in your chart, firstly your Sun is on the Pleiades. See if some of it resonate with you.
I don't see what you said as whinning, and I believe the easy rapport is very much concerned your Chiron smack dab on my IC. Every close relationship of mine has Chiron prominent in synastry and composite. Chiron play a large role in my chart too, I'm very interested in him. I know you're going a very tough time, and I know you have the strength to survive it . Saturn and Pluto can be very uncomfortable right? Someone I know have the conjunction and what I read about is not so good. Glad I can speak and share with you in this transit, it's my pleasure ^^.

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posted April 05, 2014 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
woooow...so you know abb fixed stars too? I honestly know nothing abb them...and I am soo curious..if you know some links abb their meaning...or if you could tell me if u know abb their placement...please
no ideea what sun on the pleiades is :"> ....and how'd I resonate with it,,,I see I have nessu in 9th,ixion in 10th..antares in 11,eris-3rd, sedna-4,alderbaran-5,varun-6, and in 7th pholus, orcux, ( the vertex is there,,and also chiron) :-?? And I am interested in chiron too I also asked abb it..where is it in your chart? Do you feel you have soothing qualities in a certain area? before being into astrology I was amazed because people would ask advice about their love-life..since at the time being I was alone..and u saw..not a great love life..but chiron is there..so I can help others...even if it's not a great deal I can at least listen and empathize with their pain. And you have a soothing effect too..but I wouldn't know exactly in what area:?


oh and pluto square saturn is scarry- there is an astrologer ,Donna..and she told the storry of her sister that was terribly sad and hard, and she said it is mostly saturn square pluto but I know I must face what I must face..no need to escape from it.

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posted April 05, 2014 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I know pratically nothing about them . It's just that after I knew I have Sun on Antares that I started researching more. Look for your planets conjunct certain Fixed Star. The Fixed Star could overwhelm an entire chart, don't underestimate it. I usually go to Darkstar and Bobmarks to read about Fixed Star. I'm not sure about the Pleiades though, but your Sun is also on a critical degree (0 degree), it's a reckless energy, coping with Gemini is also mutable in nature, very active.

Chiron is active in my chart, it's retrogade in 2nd house (values, security of all kind is my greatest pain), square Mars tightly, oppose Saturn, trine Venus, loosely sextile Moon. He is a Centaur, so I don't know if a wide orb of 4-5 degree could be applied here. Ami Anne considers Chiron a planet so a wide orb still works. I myself feel Chiron very clearly so it must still be effective even wide the wide orb. Funny you said that people come to you for advices. I have the same experience. Even when I have never been in a relationship, they'd still ask for my advice. It's about trust and wisdom, I think. Relationships with Chiron prominent don't scare me off, in fact, all my close relationships have it, very healing in my opinion. Your ability to listen and sympathize I think also relates to Moon conjunct Neptune trine Venus. Just be careful don't take on their emotions though .

What have Donna said about this Saturn square Pluto? I hope it's not a lifelong effect, Saturn can be ruthless but he can be rewarding too, providing of course you learn his lessons. But Saturn combines with Pluto the planet of death and deep transformation could be scary.

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Oh Starlitroad, you said some things that really struck me . I think because I have Chiron Retrogade that I can deal with him more easily. Pain is internalized, and with Moon in Virgo, Venus/Pluto apex of a Kite in my chart, I can benefit from it. And with this, Chiron is kinda dangerous to me, I think. If I consider love is also pain than I'd stay in unhealthy relationship just for the sake of love. I'm trying to listen to my intuition more in order to deal with Chiron.

The Saturn-Pluto info is very interesting. You have a book that talk about it? Some say the square is the most difficult in all hard aspects. Opposition: you can swing from one end to the other. Conjunction: 2 forces fighting for the top position, not pretty but may be you can choose which one to express at a time. Square just feels stucked, too much tension with no exit venue. When you said about being afraid, it brought me some lights. This person that I know have the conjunction is very much afraid, and it happens to be in the 12th, unconscious tension: like he is on a minefield, don't know where to go without being exploded with it. The square in your chart is in 1st and 10th, how you deal with it affects your environment because people can see it too. I think in honoring Pluto, you must trust in letting go, believe that in surrender you'll gain what he want to give to you: the power of transformation. And Saturn can teach you to surrender with dignity. Can you share with me what you read about Saturn-Pluto. It's very interesting. And PLuto at 21 degree is loss? How about 26 degree?

And you know, I'm Sag but I don't go overboard with optimism. Maybe it's because I have Earth in my chart to balance it. I've had a similar experience with a girl friend a while back. Blind optimism is a recipe for disaster unless you experienced all the dark sides of human kind and still let optimism triumph, then it's strength in itself.

I'm not sure about Sun at 0 degree. 0 degree is an Aries point, very reckless, an enormous hunger for experiences so it is always on the go. I think with Gemini here the mind is very active it can be exhausting, you need to have Fire to materialize your ideas. Just my 2 cents

I have something that I want to share with you: http://www.throughnightsfire.com/BitethePoisonedApple-MoonandVenusinaspect.html
Do you find it resonates with you? I have Moon sextile Venus exact and it is spot on.


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posted April 06, 2014 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heeey..I like your moon, hehe...I think it is a good placement^^....yes, you need to stay true to your intuition. Unfortunately I don''t have a book ab saturn square pluto just sites, here for example http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2009/11/07/how-the-pluto-saturn-s quare-may-affect-people-born-with-that-aspect/

here is one very useful, u can give it a look
because it explains all the planets aspects and gives hints in how to go through it and transcend the limits
http://depthastrology2.com/SelectionPage.html
The square is always the most difficult aspects when it is about these 2 planets .And I am sorry for that person..it's double the pain because it is in the unconscious and it can turn to light in many painfull ways..at least I am aware of it and want to go further..
For scorpio ..because it is fixed, the worst degrees are 9 and 21..and pluto 21 is loss..concerning 26..I don't know ab it, sorry^^
haha, I feel the turmoil of the mind all the time, it is like it never stops..but I have A LOT of grounding earthy energy..I am almost a water void( only pluto in scorpio) and almost a fire void( only mars in aries) ..with a bit of freezy-breezy air..so not so much action going on here.
You are a sag? woow such an interesting combo with the moon, and scorpio there, nice, nice..I have sag in the house of friendship

Last but not least, I was really surprised with the link you send.^^ I have moon trine venus..being an easy aspect I admit that it's what they call a normal behaviour.

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posted April 10, 2014 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Starlitroad, I didn't see this. I saw 37 is the number of posts but when I clicked on this thread, it didn't show your post, weird. I started to question if you've been sick or something. Turned out the problem is my eyes, lol.

I like my moon too :d, some articles claim Virgo moon is cold, but I don't see it that way. Honestly I think I'd be a good mother .
Thanks for the links, the info in there are good quality. I think we have underestimated Saturn a lot. When Saturn is afflicted, we have so much difficulties with self-actualization. Do you read Dawn Bodrogi? She has some very enlightening articles about Saturn as a personal planet. Saturn is a grown-up Mars, and Venus is a grown-up Moon. I don't know if we could ever out grown our Moon but Saturn is definitely more than an outer planet to me. Her website: theinnerwheel has many articles about synastry and composite. Maybe you'd to give it a go .

I hear you about the degree in Scorpio, I have Venus at 9, a bonus, eh? These days I take an interest in the Sabian symbol. I find it pretty accurate. Have you tried?

You have Sag in 11th, I don't understand how it means in synastry yet. Some say the 5th house is how you give love, and the 11th is how you want to receive love. We look at houses as axis so the 11th I think is important in love relationship too, maybe not crazy head over heels, but a natural affinity (good for long-term).

Oh about the link I gave you, I identified with the difficulty to be the nurturer and seductress, my mom isn't jealous of me at all, just didn't show me the way to grow into my feminine self. I'm sorry about your father, I can't imagined how hard it'd have been if I was in your shoes. But that just proved what I said about you, you're wise and strong. I'm glad you're a mother hen to your friends ^^, I'm like that with my friends, the only one who didn't let me mother her is a Virgo . Your mom sounds nice, actually, and loving. Lilith in 1st house, wow, does it make any aspect to your personal planets? My lilith is in 5th, no aspect to any planet in my chart. I appear very boring to fire dominant people ^^. Hope I'll have some updates from you, is everything okay? The lunar eclipse will happen soon, the articles that I read all said the solar and lunar eclipse of this month are more scary than the Cardinal Grand Cross, ughh.


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posted April 10, 2014 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 12, 2014 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Starlitroad, I'm sorry to hear that. Hope you'll get better and your knee too. Jupiter is about to leave your 6th house, I guess he is to remind you to mind your health before he goes, so take care.

Well, Saturn is my favorite teacher, nope, just kidding ^^. I'm trying to figure out why Saturn is so important in synastry for long-term relationship. If we call Saturn an outer planet then why can we work with him when we can't work with the other 3: Neptune, Uranus, Pluto?? I have many questions but still confused about the answers. Don't mind me .

Your environment seems very stressful, no wonder you catched a cold. Just relax and don't let others negative energy influence you. I know it's hard, and I find whining to my best friend helped immensely ^^. And you know what, the felt great surrounding you described fit nicely to what I'd describe my home, sounds cozy and fun to me. My Taurus Asc agrees with everything you said .

I don't know much about Lilith, you mean Black Moon Lilith, right? The articles I read don't have much positive things to say about her. The other woman, the mistress, the home wrecker... surely she is misunderstood. She is after all a part of femininity that we hide and avoid. One thing I know for sure is she's very seductive, so if you have BML aspects Venus, you must have that power of seduction.

I'm so sorry about the boy you're interested in. I don't have the words to make you feel better but you're right, this too shall pass. If it's meant to be, we'd know in the end. In the mean time, held our head high and deal with whatever life throw our way with courage and dignity. I know it's hard but I'll try my best. Thanks for the kind words, Camy ^^ I send love to you!


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posted April 13, 2014 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much for your encouraging words too :)

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Hello, like a friend of mine who has fought and beaten cancer, health is the most treasured resource that we have, so take good care of yourself ^^. It's easier said than done, isn't it? The Pisces ASC you got from the book is based on the hour? How about the place of birth? It would influence greatly. And the secondary progressions is very different from transit in which the outer planets don't move much so we normally don't look at them much. According to your chart on astro he's still in your 8th house. I have the impression that I don't understand what you're talking about, so I just guessed this is what you wondered . And I still look at those sites you give me, the depthastrology have those good descriptions that I can relate to. But you're right, the weather these days is so bad, I'm pratically nailed in bed all day with the fever for frienship. The Lunar Eclipse leaves so much for wanting .

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posted April 15, 2014 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope you're well and full of that zeal for life. It's Lunar Eclipse today, have anything happened to you?

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posted April 15, 2014 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Tulip!
It's great that your friend fought the disease and won!
The pisces asc , yes is based on the hour, but the place is not included,..so I am thinking that capy rising must be accurate afterall ( saddly) ..I am not over the moon with it..bcz I alreeady have moon in cappy and is not an easy placement for being warm and openly affectionate :(
And my doubt was on jupiter...on astrotheme, for secondary progreessions chart..it says that he is already in 7th house..but then again, transits are up-day-to day..and far more noticeable ( to be honest, I was trying to figure out if jup is in 7th house, so That I can manage to think if this boy I told you abb is THE ONE. that's why I was thinking if secondarry progr might be accurate..so If I am letting him go...so will my chance for happiness in a nice relationship will fly away)

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posted April 15, 2014 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The number posts is 48 but I can only see the 46th post. I don't know if my message this afternoon get posted or not .

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posted April 16, 2014 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know what happened?
anyway...thank you so much for your words and you are a special person ^^ that;s pretty much what I replied in the previous message..I hope u'll receive this ( I can see only till 47 post) there are def some problems with the site

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Yes, I can see your post, thank you . But our two posts has gone MIA, I'm glad that you've seen my mushy post yesterday. Anw, I continued to look at the Moon at 02 AM, but don't see anything, maybe she was behind my building, I missed the eclipse. I hope you feel better now.

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