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Chryseis
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posted January 12, 2015 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jerseyshore:
Hi Chryseis & thank you! Such an interesting reading. I appreciate the time & effort that went into it. I am female, so your assessment here is accuarte. Although some of the details are off, I am completely aware of who this man is. Will be interesting to see how the year pans out. Just one quick question...When you say "elders" do you mean family members? Thanks again, very insight reading.

Thanks jerseyshore,

I'm glad you mentioned about the elders. It is interesting that the reading includes their view/regard etc on the matter, I agree.

I'm not really sure how to explain it or why there is the male response to the matter and the female response. I do like them included though. I don't include them in the alternative layout of the grand tableau. That layout is quite different and presented itself to me in its own unique formulation. I may have a go at some readings with that alternative spread at some stage in the future.

Sorry that the details are off. I am particular about the details myself although I guess sometimes what I write is just the best I can offer. Many things are just difficult to define or maybe I put different meanings to the sensations that I get.

Thanks for your reply

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posted January 12, 2015 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
thank you very much for your reading!!!

I just pulled some cards for you but I think for a proper interpretation I'd need to know if you are single or in a relationship.


Hi Enneline, I am not in a relationship.

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posted January 12, 2015 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessyboo92:
Can i sit and ask whats there too look forward too since im having trouble seeing hope for my future , im recovering from some rough past events

Hi Jessyboo, I like questions like these as they are so interesting to decipher

The card layout:
moon, anchor, ship, book, stork, heart, castle, mice
garden, roads, scythe, ring, key, mountain, flowers, clover, tree
sun, lillies, bear, cross, gentleman, clouds, coffin, snake, child
dog, stars, lady, fishes, fox, letter, rider, whip, birds

(where you are at/whats going on) moon in rider - perhaps you are a bit of a romantic and I think this is the basis of your down mood.

(what the situation leaves you with/ the outcome/'cross to bear') birds in cross - so you end up very often with a surplus of anticipation and excitement

(what is apparently so) tree in flowers - in general you have a fairly healthy attitude to others and won't expect too much of them. You are accommodating and often feel that others are too interested in their own concerns only.

(what has to happen as a matter of course) dog in gentelman - physical proximity with someone else is really important to you and you would rather accept an imperfect other than have no relationship. Loyalties are an issue for you and you may feel dominated either by a role that you have with others or by a person who acts like a monitor of you. Perhaps you just have a strong conscience and it affects your emotions.

first 3 cards: moon+anchor+ship - it wouldn't take much for you to sail away to other lands or perhaps you just spend a lot of time dreaming about things that take your fancy.

'heart' of the matter:
ring in child -
key in fox -
mountain in bear -
cross in roads -
gentleman in mice -
clouds in heart -

Then, ring+key+mountain - I think there is a particular place you would like to see or that beckons you. It feels like the Rockies in Canada. This image or similar has good potential to be a very hope instilling vision.
and, cross+gentleman+clouds - maybe too, you could step aside from something that you have given a lot of energy to. Perhaps you could take a holiday that has a working element to it but is separate from a type of work that you do that tends to say your identity a little. You are hungering for something real maybe.

Set of 3 horizontal cards with significator:
stars in woman+lady in lillies+fish in sun - though other ideas come to mind to me, I think it is possible that you exchange quite a bit about astrology or other special knowledge which is likely given this site. You could perhaps visit others and couch surf or similar to have a change of scene. The persons you may know may consist of older women who you consider to be colleagues or peers within this type of knowledge. You may even be a type of moderator due to the proximity of the dog in man house with the stars and the significator.

Horizontal rows and their timing order of events:
row 1: Currently, you could entertain the idea of moving away, maybe even overseas, bottom line is, you are after a foot warmer, someone to warm the cockles of your heart and your home. Truly, your life is feeling a little empty but you wouldn't like to substitute what you have for a worse living situation. Also some old order of government seems to be disintegrating so perhaps this is hopeful to you as well.

row 2: Something that will work for you in boosting your hope for the future and giving you something to look forward to is, going on a holiday to Jamaica or somewhere like that. Somewhere hot, easy going, fairly tropical, and with lots to view. Perhaps too you like the idea of indulging and having a few drinks etc in fun but relaxing environment. And yes there is always the travel idea to the mountains, however in this spot now in relation to the full row, it talks of visiting perhaps a sister or aunty that lives in the country - they seem related, ofcourse they may even be your mother. And you might do catch up things like visit your father's is it, grave. Another thing that gives you hope is that you probably will get a clean bill of health.

row 3: You perhaps don't have a lot of cash to throw around but maybe you think you can juggle something at least to go and make one visit to maybe your mum or whoever that is. And you would like to put some work into considering where you would like to be when you are older. Shyness and comfort zones/habits will tend to keep you from branching out maybe. You might find that you really battle a kind of inner Saturn that restricts you. Another thing that might happen that you can look forward to is you might get your cigarettes or some kind of commodity at an ongoing special price or you will have some kind of status recognised that will give you a discount or a privileged status with goods or services.

row 4: don't be too hard on yourself, you won't lose ground and are exactly where you should be. I think generally you are someone who doesn't make changes very much. I think perhaps if you took up a particular medium of art that you once did you would feel a great deal of satisfaction in this.

Columns of 4 vertical:
1st 4(what you make the best of) - you have a lot going for you and are quite resilient.
2nd 4(what others need) - people look forward to the slant or perspective you put on things.
3rd 4 (what will suit the elders) - seeing a someone locally that likes what you like
4th 4 (what can't be negotiated) you are a pretty jealous person perhaps but then I think most people are really
5th 4 (where you slip up) is something about is not adding up events correctly or something - you miscalculate something - sorry, I'm not sure exactly
6th 4 (where the future lies) I'm not sure about this one


I'm not sure about the last few rows but generally your resilience to things and your preference to have things how you like them without changes may predominate.

I thought I would do a better reading than this but didn't, sorry.

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posted January 12, 2015 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are the first tree cards for you, Chryseis? Thanks!

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

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posted January 12, 2015 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ihaveaquestion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 12, 2015 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^she hasn't reached ur q yet. The OP is still 4 readings to getting to my q and I posted on the first page.
Patience

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posted January 13, 2015 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ihaveaquestion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
^she hasn't reached ur q yet. The OP is still 4 readings to getting to my q and I posted on the first page.
Patience

Oh, I feel like such a chimp! Thank you for letting me know.

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posted January 13, 2015 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi sorry, I do intend to get to each reading if I can. Have been working then had family over for dinner.

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posted January 13, 2015 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MinceyMouse:
Me please!

Just a general for my education this year - planning to pursue a masters in law, but have not heard anything from the universities I have applied to...

I am a female.


Hi Mincey, I will try and finish this reading in one go but if I don't I will finish it tomorrow night.

This is the card order:

garden, rider, birds, book, stork, mice, anchor, lillies, mountain
letter, castle, snake, tree, sun, clouds, gentleman, flowers, house
ring, coffin, lady, dog, roads, whip, clover, scythe, cross
bear, ship, stars, child, fox, moon, fish, key, heart

The corners,

(overview of where you are at with this matter): garden in rider - this is a case of all your eggs in one basket but you probably had to do that
(the cross to bear, general outcome): heart in cross - you can so rock this, but like everything will be geared to it. Maybe it will be more like a mid year intake though or even September.
(how you are 'pegged', what is apparently so): mountain in flowers - maybe you will be really pressing people to put in a good word for you or you are really pushing that you have to get accepted
(what has to happen): bear in gentleman - new threads, decking yourself out like a preppy meister, looking totally the part

first 3 cards: garden+rider+birds - like you have jumped the gun. Acceptance is probably going to happen like on a waiting list and you are already in to the chat groups and the various support networks and resources - but I say, good for you

'heart' of the matter:
tree in child - learning latin by rote
sun in fox - diaries, notebooks, computer apps, you will have all the resources going on full bore
cloud in bear - competent, considered, prepared
dog in roads - rejoicing, skipping and howling down the street kicking up your heels and going crazy with whoopee sounds and twirling and stuff
road in mice - a school motto, maybe something with dictum in it or it is often quoted, the beginnings of a haunting - kind of spooky - but more like creeping through the halls of greatness, but it will rattle you a little
whip in heart - a certain level of either disappointment or extreme excitement

Then as a sequence,

tree+sun+clouds - possibly getting something that you want though the variation of it isn't the ultimate in preferences. Like finding out that you are in a 'stream' that is not the 'A' class. Supposedly you will be able to achieve all the same but you and others would question that due to the status and connections that the A group get. Still, it's true, it's the same qualification.

and, dog+road+whip - you can smell the money coming with this, maybe you are gearing yourself to something, perhaps it will be property law or similar and really, you don't give a sh*t, you're in and you will make it work for you. You will limit yourself to an area but its true, there are big dollars in that arena of practice.

The set of three horizontal cards with significator:
coffin in garden - tendency towards OCD, black and white no grey areas, certain level of coldness and a lack of compassion
lady in mountain - damsels in distress could be your downfall or where you are prepared to show more compassion
dog in roads - possible inclination to enjoy the feeling of having made it but then too much time spent sun baking, talking about scenarios etc etc but not actually attending to the work to keep you where you are enjoying being at.

as a sequence, coffin+lady+dog - potential to be wearing the cap mentally, before you are actually fitting the shoes

the horizontal rows,

I'll finish this tomorrow evening


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posted January 13, 2015 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What are the first tree cards for you, Chryseis? Thanks!


Hi LeeLoo, I don't understand the question. If you mean 'three' then what are you referring to?

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posted January 13, 2015 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What are the first tree cards for you, Chryseis? Thanks!


No I think I get what you are asking. What are the first three cards of the Lenormand, like why do I pick those out, is that what you mean?

The first three cards of the GT 9x4 can encompass variations that include - expansion of the position of the person in relation to the matter; or may give a slight overview of the question but there will be hints of how it will fare and how it is heading; or what is currently going on with it but you can also sense the power within these cards if there is a dynamic or a momentum.

So yes, you can have hints of what is coming into being and how generally the person will fare in relation to the matter.

I might revise that explanation at a later stage but that is probably the best I can offer now.

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posted January 13, 2015 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chryseis:
Hi LeeLoo, I don't understand the question. If you mean 'three' then what are you referring to?

Ah, sorry, lol I mean the first 3 cards of the GT.

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posted January 14, 2015 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again Mincey, this is the rest of the reading:

horizontal rows (kind of timing and progression of what will happen)

row 1: You miss something and pick it up in the short term, could be something you haven't included. Perhaps you have to make it so clear the pronunciation or spelling of your name too. Putting lots of pressure and expectations on like the admin side of tertiary education facilities so that they totally are up on you, you could even be including detailed stories that might just give you the edge.

row 2: perhaps you will think the missed thing has put you back a bit in the process of being accepted. You will find that you have all sorts of theories about the details of what is going on etc. You may start to feel down and may feel like you are just sitting waiting for either approximately 1.5 weeks or about 1.5 months, probably the latter.

row 3: you may start to consider other options and almost feel relieved at letting something go by deciding on an alternative but you contact again at some stage and there is a change which gives you hope. And you think well even if you have to do such and such then you will still get there in a round about way.

row 4: then it all comes together and you kind of get pretty much what you wanted except for a few differences - maybe choices and subject lines etc that may have some limitations and feel like the stream B type of idea - but there is a feeling present in the dynamic of the cards that it will all work out well - you will just find that you are kind of directed to a line of practice/study but the prospects are really good with it - and it feels your personality and aptitudes work in with the areas that seem to be where you are going.


columns of 4:
1st(what you make the best of)- perhaps you don't quite have the prerequisities or the background attainments.
2nd(what others need) - they just want the best for you, everyone is supportive - though there is one element maybe from a younger person that might think that you will have even less time for them - otherwise they all want you to have what you want.
3rd(what will suit the elders)- variation of responses here. One 'elder' is thinking you might be able to show an ex what you are made of, something like "they can put that in their pipe and smoke it". Other responses and maybe some of these elders are deceased as I'm not sure about this column and think it might be all elders to you that have been close to you. Yes, so another response feels like you should have got work in like a local hardware store or something similar to that.
4th(what can not be negotiated) - the timing is right for you, this is happening, and you will get accepted and commence somewhere.
5th(where you are likely to slip up)- someone younger needs more of your time - they are lonely for input in their lives by you and they don't want to muck up to get attention though they feel quite desolate for you to shine some of you warmth and light there way.
6th(where the future lies)- you can get a nice job and salary out of this direction, and you are likely to have more friends, really good friends, and feel quite accomplished.
7th(what you can count on) - you can count on tinea or foot problems - (do you plan to live on campus or something?)- you are going to be so involved in college or uni life as you will be getting fit too etc, but be careful about the leisure time, sunbaking and dreaming, discussing scenarios etc, and not attending to the actual workload.
8th(how the males around you respond)- could be a son is it this younger person. Males will be astounded with your stationery and how much you highlight.
9th(how the females around you respond)- you are like a treasured son perhaps, but they worry that you will put yourself under too much pressure and strain. Some females will be quite wowed and think you are totally cool.

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posted January 14, 2015 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MinceyMouse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much, Chryseis.. this is 90% accurate.

I am not on a waiting list, but merely waiting for a decision- I do not work at a hard ware place, but work in a place filled to the hilt with cabinets and files (law). You're right about me not filling all the prerequisites of a uni I want to get into, but I've tried to make up that aspect.

I'm just re-reading this now.. and O.M.G.

When I'm feeling better, I'll open a thread and you can ask me what you want. I do tarot, btw.

Thank you!

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posted January 14, 2015 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sparkleblue:
Love and career for me please Thanks!

Hi sparkleblue,

this spread had a very clear feeling that may coincide with the first half or so of 2015 but then there is a feeling of getting over particular and maybe a little OCD, or really working for particular outcomes. I'm seeing it in the horizontal order of cards but I will look into it later.

Here's the order:
ring, rider, clouds, tree, cross, book, child, mountain, fishes
sun, lillies, clover, mice, castle, stars, ship, house, lady
flowers, dog, scythe, ring, fox, heart, gentleman, roads, snake
stork, birds, bear, anchor, garden, moon, coffin, whip, letter

the corners:
key in rider - you really want a higher level of involvement in love or career. In love you may feel like doing the proposing to move things along. In career, you may try and slide some kind of information under the nose of another in an attempt to elevate your position.
letter in cross - you may have to upgrade a qualification as it feels like the industry/tide of changes are demanding it. You really put your heartfelt thoughts and ideas in writing and they do mean something to the other.
fishes in flowers - you have connections to people in nice places or you have been to places and can recommend them to another - feels like a lovely place to visit with water and greenery and a peaceful environment. In career there are issues related to water usage maybe or perhaps coastlines even.
stork in gentleman - putting on weight though it is not only you. In career, spreadsheets, totals, everything figured in etc - routine considerations that you actually enjoy I think.

First three cards:
key+rider+clouds - seems like you have a nice someone in mind but there's issues with them - perhaps he/she has obligations elsewhere or are not mobile enough due to having to stay around family even. Career wise, perhaps white clothing, a new role, there is perhaps a clean or an environmental aspect to the work. Could even include food. Seems to be a widespread chain of people, some more relevant to you then others. You are still under someone else' direction or you answer to them, often it is just through emails perhaps or some kind of delivery. In love you would like to allude to the prospect perhaps of maybe having a family.

the heart of the matter:
mice in child - overeating and a little temperamental
castle in fox - music, tv series/movies, being glued to something that has a lot of levels to it like keeping up with a complicated reality tv series or similar.
stars in bear- (I can't read this) it can mean improving one's finances, and I think this is a possibility that one of your goals is to improve the money available to you either through love or career.
ring in roads - you have ambitions but your heart perhaps is not engaged as your want
fox in mice - you could easily drop the material ambitions at some point and be almost an ascetic or more so perhaps someone who takes a higher perspective on things.
heart in heart - you definitely have the heart in the right place but maybe when you are younger you listen to others about what you should attain and have etc. You will have a rich experience of life mainly due to a readjustment of values and you have a great potential to find true love - maybe don't rush it. Career wise you could wind up serving chips/fries to others but you would be a wonderful presence.

Then,
mice+castle+stars - your good at scrabble or maybe its some kind of thing like using cards etc
ring+fox+heart - a great potential to take a giant leap in spiritual awareness which will afford you a greater richness of experience and possibly more stable material wealth as well.

set of three with significator:
house in stork - a proposition - could be a bad decision to accept - you would have to look into it - maybe its going into partnership with someone to buy a property and maybe only one of you would live there.
lady in dog - getting bogged down in the humdrum and daily mundane stresses
flowers in castle - tendency to worry over what was said.

Then,
house+lady+flowers - in love with love, easily led into a reverie by a few words or ideas - as you get older this will stabilise and deepen to a more mature love nature. Career wise, lots of chat in the workplace, often about relationships or maybe even about readings - you are entertaining and generally interesting to be around - though some may be concerned that you are getting distracted.

the horizontal rows:

row 1: I can't read the rows, I guess I could nut them out but I thought it odd that I can't read them. My opening lines still stand. So if it was this year then in the last 3rd at least there is a level of stress which is perhaps part of a transition period for you in your evolution of values and awareness - could be a feeling of being a bit miserable during that time though - but you will come out the otherside with newfound personal wisdom.

columns of 4:
1st(what you have to make the best of) - something to do with the tv series watching its complex but might mean that if you tend to watch them then your values will echo them. If you want to improve you values then there are alternatives in time. Could even have a community involvement as being one of the alternatives.
2nd (what others need) - some one maybe wants you to go into a cooking making business - maybe its you and others think its a good idea.
3rd(what will suit the elders) - they don't care, they're good with whatever you want to do, you seem to come from cruisy and practical elders.
4th(what can not be negotiated) - for some reason long hair really suits you but you may have short hair to be contrary to this - it doesn't matter either way though but you can rock longer hair.
5th(where you are likely to slip up) - guys or others perhaps who are on the take. Maybe you come from a reasonably privileged background. Some may be looking past you to the marble columns on the verandah or the big yard.
6th(where the future lies) - you have the potential to write for love or career and are good with putting your thoughts, ideas and feelings into word.
7th(what you can count on) - a young good looking guy (I think) who will come along when you least expect and you will more likely take his eye initially. He seems really young though and maybe younger than you.
8th(the response from the males around you) - It won't surprise them for you to have everything that you wanted or even to give yourself to something that they might think is a waste or below your standard.
9th(response from the females around you) - someone really is focused on a committed path in relationships for you, probably a mother, and she wants all the boxes ticked on that marital and life pathway for you. She probably just doesn't want you to suffer or settle for something incomplete.


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posted January 14, 2015 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chryseis:
Hi Enneline, I am not in a relationship.

sorry for the delay; i've been feeling low the last couple of days but here are your cards + (intuitive) interpretation:

- 2 of pentacles
- king of cups
- 7 of swords rev

I think you'll meet a new guy (a soulmate! ) and you're going to have heavy feelings for him. But on the other hand he reminds you of unhealed wounds and of course the karma the 2 of you have together.
I think you will take that as a chance for healing afterwards you would be free to make free (not sticked to old wounds & karma) decisions Congratulations & enjoy the passion

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posted January 16, 2015 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FairyDust75:
I'd love one please. Anything further to come with me and S? Anything at all you get is fine.

Hi FairyDust75,

The four corners,

(where you are at) snake in rider - perhaps you feel a bit ripped off over S.
(the cross you will bear) key in cross - currently it seems that there won't be anything significant to come between you which is quite severe on you.
(what is apparently so) lady in flowers - are they are performer or dancer, they seem to receive applause and have an audience.
(what is meant to be) birds in gentleman - there seems quite some adoration for them on your part and perhaps you become one of their biggest fans.

First 3 cards:
snake+ship+stork
I think you try to buy or see everything that is associated with their performances and will continue to for some time. No matter you love to be this infatuated.

Heart of the matter:
fox in child - you have a very effervescent love attitude towards S and the reason you are like a teeny bopper fan here is perhaps because you had a severe trauma probably about 13 and in some ways your love nature is kind of stuck there.
fish in fox - you are so much fun though and you keep others at bay by your devotion to a perfect idol - its a safe port for your emotions and love.
clouds in bear - people worry about you. You say you are ok but you realise you are getting older.
sun in roads - S is sick (both as in 'cool' as well as health wise)- doesn't sleep properly, nor eat properly, always hyped up on some kind of buzz of energy. They will tire of their current situation in about 12years and then probably lead a super conventional life complete with cat, and hand knitted hat and socks.
bear in mice - they don't see you like you see them I don't think - in fact they just wouldn't understand...
book in heart - I think they could have a second career - later on, and probably creative, perhaps involving writing and sheep farming (but I'm not sure about that except they do seem to cherish their knitted accessories).

Then,
fox+fish+clouds - you are up with everything really, you know you like living in a fantasy and that's perfectly ok with you.
sun+bear+book - no one knows you like your mother/parents you say and think - but I think that is another whimsical fantasy. I think if you don't still live with your parents then you are pretty close to them. It sort of feels to me like you have to leave and go and live somewhere else - branch out a bit and change your routines - they are too confining it feels and keep you slowly moving in a high pressured wind down between the pseudo ages of 13 and 15, keeping you from turning 16 (theoretically speaking) which seems another semi-traumatic time.

Then set of 3 cards with significator:
lillies in coffin - yes age is getting away to some extent or rather youth is.
lady in flowers - you bite your nails hoping to control the outcomes.
mice in scythe - its severe, the reality of it to you. You know but you don't. Its like an obsession. You can't accept and you are determined to not accept it at this point that this relationship is probably a non-event. But quite exquisite in its intricacy in what could be or the roles that you have created for you and they.

and,
lillies+lady+mice - but, you are still youngish, not in your youth but not that far away from it perhaps. You can have a rich life but its hard for you to be pinned down to a real seeing another clearly type of relationship. Its way too uncomfortable and unknown.

The horizontal rows:
I can't see them clearly enough either.

Vertical columns of 4:
1st(what you have to make the best of) - some kind of idea about yourself or your body.
2nd(what others need) - you are in a big position to give. You have so many qualities and ability to influence, create change, and move things along for others and with others through work etc.
3rd(what will suit the elders) perhaps it was/is a grandmother that was similar to you - she thinks write to the person, don't let them get away, why wouldn't they want a life with you - they seem like they thought/think the world of you.
4th(what can't be negotiated) - You may get yourself a small apartment or home if you don't already have one and you may share it with someone - but I'm not sure if the person is there or not.
5th(where you may slip up) - something chinese feels like it is associated with this - do you go out to eat chinese regularly or is it packet noodles or similar - something in it is not good for you and it feels like it affects your liver. I just googled it and they say they are prevalent in the far east but not so much in western countries but on this site that I was looking at it said the reason or cause was generally unknown. I feel it has something to do with the msg, salt and some kind of fat. If you don't regularly eat chinese or ever feel 'liverish' then this is probably not the case.
6th(where the future lies) - I think you can write and have an appeal to others. You could even right for some type of magazine maybe. You could also study something else but maybe it is to make your own course.
7th(what you can count on)You could be on your own for quite some time but this could suit you to some extent as you have almost a cleric type of personality (studious, devoted, friend focused).
8th(how the males around you respond to the matter) - they don't seem to relate to the matter in question very well.
9th(how the females around you respond) some are tiring of your focus on this person but some are hanging on your every word and expression.

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posted January 16, 2015 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Watercolordaydream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a question
How will things progress between hb and me this year? what can I do in order to work out something solid with him?

Many thnx!

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posted January 16, 2015 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MinceyMouse:
Thank you so much, Chryseis.. this is 90% accurate.

I am not on a waiting list, but merely waiting for a decision- I do not work at a hard ware place, but work in a place filled to the hilt with cabinets and files (law). You're right about me not filling all the prerequisites of a uni I want to get into, but I've tried to make up that aspect.

I'm just re-reading this now.. and O.M.G.

When I'm feeling better, I'll open a thread and you can ask me what you want. I do tarot, btw.

Thank you!


Thanks Mincey! I will do that Good luck with your studies.

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posted January 16, 2015 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
sorry for the delay; i've been feeling low the last couple of days but here are your cards + (intuitive) interpretation:

- 2 of pentacles
- king of cups
- 7 of swords rev

I think you'll meet a new guy (a soulmate! ) and you're going to have heavy feelings for him. But on the other hand he reminds you of unhealed wounds and of course the karma the 2 of you have together.
I think you will take that as a chance for healing afterwards you would be free to make free (not sticked to old wounds & karma) decisions Congratulations & enjoy the passion


Thanks Enneline, I appreciate it

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Originally posted by Chryseis:
Hi FairyDust75,

The four corners,

(where you are at) snake in rider - perhaps you feel a bit ripped off over S.
(the cross you will bear) key in cross - currently it seems that there won't be anything significant to come between you which is quite severe on you.
(what is apparently so) lady in flowers - are they are performer or dancer, they seem to receive applause and have an audience.
(what is meant to be) birds in gentleman - there seems quite some adoration for them on your part and perhaps you become one of their biggest fans.

**NO, S is not any type of performer or dancer at all.

First 3 cards:
snake+ship+stork
I think you try to buy or see everything that is associated with their performances and will continue to for some time. No matter you love to be this infatuated.

**There's nothing to buy of his, or associated with him in that regard.

Heart of the matter:
fox in child - you have a very effervescent love attitude towards S and the reason you are like a teeny bopper fan here is perhaps because you had a severe trauma probably about 13 and in some ways your love nature is kind of stuck there.

**No, never suffered any sort of trauma at that age or any other age.

fish in fox - you are so much fun though and you keep others at bay by your devotion to a perfect idol - its a safe port for your emotions and love.
clouds in bear - people worry about you. You say you are ok but you realise you are getting older.

**I'm not getting that old, really. Not ready for a walker and cane. No health problems or concerns at this time.

sun in roads - S is sick (both as in 'cool' as well as health wise)- doesn't sleep properly, nor eat properly, always hyped up on some kind of buzz of energy. They will tire of their current situation in about 12years and then probably lead a super conventional life complete with cat, and hand knitted hat and socks.

**I think they are ok in this department. Yes he does work quite a bit but manage to take care of himself.

bear in mice - they don't see you like you see them I don't think - in fact they just wouldn't understand...
book in heart - I think they could have a second career - later on, and probably creative, perhaps involving writing and sheep farming (but I'm not sure about that except they do seem to cherish their knitted accessories).

**Definitely NOT. Not into writing, and no offense, but sheep farming isn't an American career. S doesn't even own a sweater, so no, they don't love anything knitted.

Then,
fox+fish+clouds - you are up with everything really, you know you like living in a fantasy and that's perfectly ok with you.
sun+bear+book - no one knows you like your mother/parents you say and think - but I think that is another whimsical fantasy. I think if you don't still live with your parents then you are pretty close to them. It sort of feels to me like you have to leave and go and live somewhere else - branch out a bit and change your routines - they are too confining it feels and keep you slowly moving in a high pressured wind down between the pseudo ages of 13 and 15, keeping you from turning 16 (theoretically speaking) which seems another semi-traumatic time.

**I do live close to my parents, yes. However, they don't keep me as a child or think of me in that regard. And no, no traumatic or semi-tramautic experience at this time either. I've lived a fairly normal, quiet, life.

Then set of 3 cards with significator:
lillies in coffin - yes age is getting away to some extent or rather youth is.
lady in flowers - you bite your nails hoping to control the outcomes.
mice in scythe - its severe, the reality of it to you. You know but you don't. Its like an obsession. You can't accept and you are determined to not accept it at this point that this relationship is probably a non-event. But quite exquisite in its intricacy in what could be or the roles that you have created for you and they.

**I can accept that this won't evolve into more, just dissapointed.

and,
lillies+lady+mice - but, you are still youngish, not in your youth but not that far away from it perhaps. You can have a rich life but its hard for you to be pinned down to a real seeing another clearly type of relationship. Its way too uncomfortable and unknown.

**Not uncomfortable, I want a relationship. And no, I'm not that old.

The horizontal rows:
I can't see them clearly enough either.

Vertical columns of 4:
1st(what you have to make the best of) - some kind of idea about yourself or your body.
2nd(what others need) - you are in a big position to give. You have so many qualities and ability to influence, create change, and move things along for others and with others through work etc.
3rd(what will suit the elders) perhaps it was/is a grandmother that was similar to you - she thinks write to the person, don't let them get away, why wouldn't they want a life with you - they seem like they thought/think the world of you.

**Both grandmothers have been passed for some time now. I'm sure they thought I was a great person but we never discussed matter such as love and relationships. They were too old fashioned for that.

4th(what can't be negotiated) - You may get yourself a small apartment or home if you don't already have one and you may share it with someone - but I'm not sure if the person is there or not.
5th(where you may slip up) - something chinese feels like it is associated with this - do you go out to eat chinese regularly or is it packet noodles or similar - something in it is not good for you and it feels like it affects your liver. I just googled it and they say they are prevalent in the far east but not so much in western countries but on this site that I was looking at it said the reason or cause was generally unknown. I feel it has something to do with the msg, salt and some kind of fat. If you don't regularly eat chinese or ever feel 'liverish' then this is probably not the case.

**I do like chinese food but eat it maybe once a month, if that, so no, this doesn't fit at all. And I just had a physical all is well in all organs.

6th(where the future lies) - I think you can write and have an appeal to others. You could even right for some type of magazine maybe. You could also study something else but maybe it is to make your own course.
7th(what you can count on)You could be on your own for quite some time but this could suit you to some extent as you have almost a cleric type of personality (studious, devoted, friend focused).
8th(how the males around you respond to the matter) - they don't seem to relate to the matter in question very well.
9th(how the females around you respond) some are tiring of your focus on this person but some are hanging on your every word and expression.



Thank you for doing this reading for me. I'm sure it was time consuming, but there were too many inaccuracies for me. I do appreciate you taking the time but some of this was just too far out there. I can accept the fact that things with S may not be what I want or happen, but the rest is just too out there for me. Thanks anyway.

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posted January 16, 2015 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Chryseis,

I've just acquired a Lenormand deck and wondered if a more accurate picture could be obtained by doing a spread myself. I would love to have your insights on it though - I'm still pretty clueless when trying to interpret more than 3 cards . If that!

If you think this would be a good idea, I could do a 9 card or a GT (9x4) spread and post the results whenever it's convenient for you.

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posted January 16, 2015 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FairyDust75:

Thank you for doing this reading for me. I'm sure it was time consuming, but there were too many inaccuracies for me. I do appreciate you taking the time but some of this was just too far out there. I can accept the fact that things with S may not be what I want or happen, but the rest is just too out there for me. Thanks anyway.

Thanks for your response FairyD,

If the reading is too inaccurate then I wouldn't take my perceptions of future involvement as valid best of luck

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posted January 16, 2015 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Hi Chryseis,

I've just acquired a Lenormand deck and wondered if a more accurate picture could be obtained by doing a spread myself. I would love to have your insights on it though - I'm still pretty clueless when trying to interpret more than 3 cards . If that!

If you think this would be a good idea, I could do a 9 card or a GT (9x4) spread and post the results whenever it's convenient for you.


Ok then Perhaps write your initial interpretations down yourself before I respond so that you have your own clear view on it.

I tend to just look and read and only check with established interpretations at times to see if I'm sounding at least feasible.

As you can see by the responses, I have had a lot of inaccuracies.

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I'd really like one too thanks! Currently I'm dating 2 guys (non exclusively)
SW, whom I've been out with 5-6 times in 3 weeks
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RK whom I've been out with 3 times. (Had 3 full day dates with him)
I wanted to know how you feel both will develop. This is the first time I've ever liked two guys at once, there really seems to be a big connection with both and they're also really great guys so just alittle confused. Thanks

Hi hapless, well I hope I don't confuse you further but I have decided to continue to just provide the one GT for the whole question which will include both.

Partly I am doing it this way for my own interest, partly too, because I have faith in the spreads too be all inclusive, partly too because the spread is chiefly still about you and therefore the guys are in some ways manifestations of what is going on with you (well that is how I think).

I'm going to go and mow my lawn soon so I thought I'd do one reading here as it's too early to be mowing lawns over this side of the world.


The card order (which I just realised I missed on at least the previous reading),
anchor, fox, ring, stork lillies, mountain, clover, stars, castle
cross, birds, coffin, letter, key, moon, house, scythe, sun
ship, garden, lady, whip, heart, roads, gentleman, dog, book
flowers, fish, rider, snake, clouds, child, mice, tree, bear


The four corners:

(where you are at) anchor in rider - perhaps you are rushed off your feet, and it feels RK at the moment is the more dynamic of the two with 'legs' for ongoing involvement however there is a niggling feeling that it might be a case of the tortoise and the hare with the tortoise being SW. To confuse things even more, perhaps there is even at least a third on the horizon but feels more like a procession of suitors.
(the cross to bear) bear in cross - so by standard ideas this could mean financial burden or can be like someone who is a saviour for you or a strong ally. I also see that you could make a decision based on the financial prospects of one of them. SW is more patient, RK is genuine but also more brash, gets hot under the collar and feels the threat of competition. RK has an underdeveloped side (where there seems to be a confused boy underneath) but he also has some gusto and is quite expert and good - seems to have good career prospects - unlikely to be out of a job. I can't see SW in this house much but his presence in the background of the impressions in this house make me thing that he could well be the long term guy. Financially he has a different approach to RK I think. SW would be more likely to save and invest though could almost be boring in his conservative approach though he would be more likely the guy who you would be having European or luxurious holidays with in your early 40s. RK is more likely to set up the basics and work hard to pay them off but be more free and fun loving in the meantime. Both have good relationships with their fathers at least and RK would be likely to go on fishing trips with him and anyone such as you that would like to come. SW feels like they are more likely to have calm family catch ups and maybe something like golf. Perhaps sometimes, though conservative, he has had the occasional dabble with gambling - but I'm not sure whether that might be with shares or a casino. He really wants a nest egg behind him. RK is more about show and having the basic nice things around him now.
(what is apparently so) castle in flowers - you are making mental lists of their punctuality, shoes and dress sense, compliments to you, etc etc, which is only normal I think. You have a case around your heart to some degree and in some ways you are not letting your heart have its say too much - you are making decisions with assessment and observations, or what praise they may give you. I don't see this as right or wrong in the spread at this stage of the spread.
(what is meant to be) flowers in gentleman - both are sincere but one is more deeply sincere and I think it is SW though there is a touch of ruthlessness in him - so perhaps he can turn on the charm to achieve his objectives. Both could sweep you off your feet and I felt that RK had the lead for being the chief feet sweeper at the moment. Possibly SW can get a little too sweet where as RK is likely to have more kind of smashing displays of affection.

First 3 cards,
anchor in rider - most likely a third guy will influence the current dilemma, but may not be the 'one'
fox in clover - one of the guys is perfect for you, perhaps he has fair skin and reddish or blonde hair and the luck of the Irish. I said RK has good work prospects - however I am inclined to think it is SW in this house - does he have a nice singing voice?
ring in ship - a 'quarter' is a significant term to do with the right guy - so I'm not sure in what way - perhaps it is something he would say himself as he views things in stages and compartments on the way to his goals (I'm thinking SW again).

and,
anchor+fox+ring - he's particular, he almost wants to take you back to something when you first met - and maybe wrote in a text or something - like he wants to hold you to it.

'heart of the matter' (I just looked back to a reading for Enneline because I was checking on how I phrased a house and realized I didn't even right the breakdown of the heart of the matter houses - gosh there's probably missed bits all over the place). Anyway, I have remembered yours:
letter in child - did you have a relationship in your much younger years with one of these guys with the same name?
key in fox - at least these two guys seem very honest. Probably technically minded and whiz kids - more so perhaps SW.
moon in bear - SW again mainly I think has a little bit of a self righteous smug way - but he puts himself under a lot of pressure to do well and is equally hard on himself when he has stuffed up or not forecast an outcome correctly - so when he does get it right - he has a tendency to be a little grating with it. RK, I think in particular is devoted to his mother (even though yes, he has a good relationship with his father). SW is quite taken with his mother but it is a cooler approach - he's likely to manage her pension funds or retirement plans. RK is likely to sit on her lap for fun and hug her etc. I think SW could be a parent to his own children better as RK until he is much older still thinks of himself as a child and would probably put you into comparisons with his mother and have expectations of being mothered by you. SW has made the separation in some respect and can fully see that his wife is not his mother - he would be the guy to be still giving you jewellery when you're older and taking you out to lavish bed and breakfasts etc on your anniversaries. RK could well be disorganised and self focused in his middle years and may battle with depression and a degree of confusion then too.
whip in roads - You as said, are a tricky catch and may well encourage others to try to win you over. You think you have a lot about you and it seems that you do represent being a good catch to others.
heart in mice - some trying times ahead for you personally. Not so much in romance but within yourself. Perhaps feeling like you have underachieved and going through some kind of self examination or harshness over where you should be and what you should have done/achieved etc.
roads in heart - professional support for you - you make get off track a bit. It feels like there was an absence of input in your life or in supporting you enough between approx. what feels like about 7, more so 8, and then right up to about 12. This seems to be the root of the trouble as you have not yet been able to get over some hurdle psychologically - it is perhaps a misconception that will change with awareness and it has affected your self esteem in terms of what you think you are able to do in life and achieve on your own. (I did say however that you also have a good regard for yourself generally - I think the self esteem in this house is to do with feeling capable with things)

Then,
letter+key+moon - you possibly have to sort something out with unaddressed issues with your own mother and a time in your childhood. I think you need to come to terms with something here.
whip+heart+roads - people may have a reaction like they think you are a bit of a floosy but I don't think you are - they possibly won't be able to understand the fullness of your love life and with such good guys too - so its like quantity that is also quality, not random quality at all.

Then the 3 cards with the significator:
garden in garden - you are pretty healthy with a strong constitution.
lady in mountain - you could even be carrying a few extra pounds though generally you are well formed.
whip in roads - you do try to watch you weight though and you don't want to lose your waist line.

and,
garden+lady+whip - I think ice cream, and soft sweet desserts are your chief downfall. Maybe you could try lower sugar smoothies to get the sweet cool creaminess.

The horizontal rows:
I'm not doing great with the horizontal rows. I have found a few things. Some people's horizontal rows are a bit of a blur. Others are so detailed and complex it is like at traffic jam of impressions to me. This one is so detailed, I'm just going to do the last two rows. I'm thinking horizontal rows will be the person's own 'subjective' experience of the coming times and this is why sometimes it feels like I'm reading 'cloudy with a chance of meatballs' and other times I'm reading the annals of Lao-Tsu, haha.

Yes so an underlying insecurity, saying I can't do such and such, people are always supportive though, you think yep right I'll do such and such, but then stumble again, the guys would both be supportive, particularly SW I think (perhaps he sees you are growing into your woman shoes, like a deer fawn).

Then, even he gets a bit exasperated, and creates a little distance, RK is out clubbing, and your wading through papers kind of tearing your hair out (this is probably later in the year). You can do it, you just feel lost when it comes to staying with something and finalising the steps to achieving it - this is definitely a fitting situation for 'believe in yourself' because you can totally do it. You are super smart and have the capacity to be methodical and organised - you even like learning so what more could you want. Once you get the hang of it you could go onto very great things and be in like as an example 'the high courts or circles'. So there is a sense that you could bypass these fellows all together as you become caught up in new vistas and experiences.

So, generally to me SW is a pretty good match for you and I think he could have the goods to see you through any level of new heights that you might attain. However, there is a sensation that you may outrun them with your sights on the horizon and little time to look back.

Oh god, I was just about to submit then I realized I had forgotten the vertical columns of four:

1st (what you make the best of) - inside yourself you say to yourself, I'm not excessively bright so I should take what I can get and be happy with that.

2nd (what others need) - I think both guys would be in for the long term with you. SW though feels like he is already making investments for your future together even if only on an internal level. Some may see that as suffocating and over the top, others might see it as steady and valuable quality.

3rd (what will suit the elders) I think the elders would choose RK as he reminds them of a family member.

4th (what can not be negotiated) you will have children but there is possibly some minor reproductive issues perhaps like ovarian cysts. There are at least two births coming for you though.

5th (where you may slip up) you may not be the tidiest person or perhaps don't pay enough attention to the details with your presentation. This may potentially affect the situation with all suitors.

6th (where the future lies) I think with youth on your side you may become too blasé about your romantic options and realise either too late or almost too late.

7th (What you can count on) This is an unusual idea here and it has thrown me. It seems to suggest in this column that you can at least count on what is offered by RK and then it leaves it at that.

8th (The response from the males around you to this matter) So I think these guys could be included here as well, because there is a mix of sulky competitiveness and some degree of oh well, I have others I could maybe get to know too (RK, I think), or don't take me for granted (SW, I think as well as that initial written something earlier on that he would like to draw your attention back to and has meant a lot to him). Perhaps there are others there like a brother type that has some negative opinions about someone but they seem to like them well enough.

9th (the response from the females around you) feels very positive, and probably includes your mother. They generally think well of you and hope for all the best to come to you.



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