posted November 24, 2023 02:14 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Summerlove22,

Thank you for your feedback. I think as I was in the reading that's how I felt it but it seems by looking at it now that he was saying maybe he felt he and possibly you as well weren't ready to go further. He felt he had doubts. As though he felt you both were living a fantasy to think it might work out. He might have felt he needed more stability to bring a more mature approach. Idk his bg, or his age etc. It felt he needed to invest his time moreso on on his "stability". He surrounded himself after you with superficial fun.

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Yes this makes total sense, I believe he was not ready for a relationship as he wasn’t over his ex, so the stability makes sense, he wasn’t emotionally available. The superficial fun after me makes total sense, thanks! ❤️

posted November 24, 2023 04:02 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
sashavittoria, idk the basis of your connection so I'll try .. your unspoken message from Notorious 136 -

"Though I was closed out from my goals, wishes; It became clear that the storm was bringing change. You may not have understood our directions weren't (aren't) the same. Religion, beliefs have wedged between us. The last Solar eclipse lit the truth deep from within. My heart cannot be divided.
I am proud, feel victory and hold my head up high. I love my faith and - but this leaves me in a confusing state.
Much is ambiguous to me, how to combine both. I loose sleep while not with you. Wondering how you will be knowing how important this faith is to me.

5 of pentacles, 4 of wands, eclipse, "religious factors".
The moon, 9 of swords
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Again w/o any foreshadowing, bg this is pretty hard so idk if it resonates at all. This could be your the one with the "faith" and confusion.
Please let me know.

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I’m not sure it resonates - it does sound like it could be me but I wouldn’t be surprised if we were mirroring. He is the one I thought was my twin but now I’m not sure. He helped reawaken my goals/dreams and helped trigger another spiritual awakening in me. I have gained more pride, self-confidence, and self-respect as a result. I also did not sleep the two nights before you read this.

posted November 24, 2023 08:56 AM            

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Originally posted by sashavittoria:
I’m not sure it resonates - it does sound like it could be me but I wouldn’t be surprised if we were mirroring. He is the one I thought was my twin but now I’m not sure. He helped reawaken my goals/dreams and helped trigger another spiritual awakening in me. I have gained more pride, self-confidence, and self-respect as a result. I also did not sleep the two nights before you read this.

I’m sure his family is religious but I don’t think he is devout even if he believes. He is a serial monogamist but was too afraid to pursue me (is extremely anxious around me) and chose someone else instead. Now I am leaving his country; he missed his chance with me. He’s notoriously flirtatious/manipulative and unprofessional. A love/sex addict. He stalked me and would always eavesdrop on me. But I wonder how he feels now, how serious his feelings ever were or if I misread the whole situation. I wonder if we really are counterparts or if he was just a hard lesson.

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sashavittoria,
I was worried it might become convoluted with less to build upon. I'm rare to blindly get 5hem but again I am practicing. I might be better than I realized - or not. No knowing, without attempting.

Yes. If he was someone whom brought challenges that resu5in your self growth, he was a type of twin. I'm one to think we have many. Mostly karmic ones. Similar to that guy you're helping me with on the synastry charts. Lessons are what the "univer-*city" is built upon.

If there could be something he held faith 8n like religion, it might fit. Again you may be dead on with the mirroring. I was f8nding those common things you might say to one another. Yet not fully revealed. Murky maybe. I think if you'd like a retry, I'm game if you are .. I'll be reading later today. I'm not fully awake and I am doing some yard wk which will be a timely event. But at least it's not raining.

posted November 24, 2023 09:15 AM            

I agree but in a slightly different way… I think many soulmates, one twin flame. All being very karmic in the sense that all relations, I believe, have a karmic history - since we have all met before.

posted November 24, 2023 12:07 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Summerlove22,

I'm happy that helped. You're very welcome.
With the new Q, can you leave the message as is? I'll return sometime later on to read and will look to that message for the message delivery. Thank you.
Have an amazing day!

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posted November 24, 2023 10:06 PM            

M might say
"I had some time repairing and renewing myself after the shocking ending of a friendship. It took me by surprise. I've been sleeping a lot and watching for offers to come and for my luck to change. I'm dreaming of my complete happiness, a legacy. Quietly I wait for a message of luck! Would you believe if I heard from you, I might feel lucky! Another try has crossed my mind. Maybe I've been sleeping too much."

The Star, Death, Ace of Cups, 4 of Cups,

HP, wheel

posted November 24, 2023 10:20 PM            

What would M say to summerlove22, if he were able?

"I've been journal writing and using the law of attraction to find my way in my reason, my direction. I'm finally walking away from something I meant to a long time ago. Now is right Time! I've crossed over a boundary I cannot return across. I'm ready to pursue structure.
I feel enormous emotions but can't express them. I can say you brought me a lot of joy.
You taught me something that was key to my needing to cut free from where I was no longer needed. I have spoken to the Creator and using LOA I am trying to bring forth a family, happiness and a completion in seeking - my goal is to be with the *one and be content.

8OC, Hierophant, King of Cups, The sun

posted November 24, 2023 10:31 PM            

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Originally posted by sashavittoria:
Hey MM, thank you so much. I would love a retry if it isn’t any trouble. I also wondered if he/his higher self would be too closed off to channel at all. He seems very disconnected. Which is why I’m at a loss, seeking validation for what I sense and believe, but for which I have no “proof”.

I agree but in a slightly different way… I think many soulmates, one twin flame. All being very karmic in the sense that all relations, I believe, have a karmic history - since we have all met before.

I know we have both been struggling with the TF stuff for awhile…

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sashavittoria,
I feel your frustration. I was reading your thread after seeing your response in interpersonal readings. I think you've really been through it with him and the DC and other facets you share with him has me believing your lessons aren't easily finished. My twin from before was awful towards me. I learned to love unconditionally yet when placed in the test - had to learn not to sacrifice myself in doing so. It was bringing me to a divorce and my family was obviously under stress with the predicament. I feel we get the people to bring us triggers. It's like an old tv series I think was only in USA, "what would you do". I forget the complete premise but the people were basically placed in situations of "what ifs". The Divine sets us up and how we behave really is judged and karma then distributed.
Your guy is still connected but he may refuse to show acknowledgement of you. It's his way but it's like a seesaw because to him, you're the problem. lol, we can't win. Leave them alone, be with them, they are still miserable.

posted November 25, 2023 02:22 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Pixieangel,

M might say
"I had some time repairing and renewing myself after the shocking ending of a friendship. It took me by surprise. I've been sleeping a lot and watching for offers to come and for my luck to change. I'm dreaming of my complete happiness, a legacy. Quietly I wait for a message of luck! Would you believe if I heard from you, I might feel lucky! Another try has crossed my mind. Maybe I've been sleeping too much."

The Star, Death, Ace of Cups, 4 of Cups,

HP, wheel

Please let me know if anything feels it may resonate.

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posted November 25, 2023 09:13 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Hey Jess!
I'm going to BRB to read. Wrapping a few things up here. Thank you for your patience. ♡

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Your messages:
What would your dad say if he could?

"Watching you grow up, as you didn't realize I was always there, it pained me you couldn't hear me, feel me. I said many things as I watched you from behind. When you felt a Guide with you protecting you, sometimes that Guide was me. It meant a lot to be there, just knowing I could protect you in a way otherwise I could not.
I missed out on so much, in some ways, with you but it means a lot to know you are never without me, it feels I am not there, though I am. Always."

Emperor, 3 of swords, Hermit

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posted November 25, 2023 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
summerlove22,

What would M say to summerlove22, if he were able?

"I've been journal writing and using the law of attraction to find my way in my reason, my direction. I'm finally walking away from something I meant to a long time ago. Now is right Time! I've crossed over a boundary I cannot return across. I'm ready to pursue structure.
I feel enormous emotions but can't express them. I can say you brought me a lot of joy.
You taught me something that was key to my needing to cut free from where I was no longer needed. I have spoken to the Creator and using LOA I am trying to bring forth a family, happiness and a completion in seeking - my goal is to be with the *one and be content.

8OC, Hierophant, King of Cups, The sun

You're very welcome.
Please let me know if it might resonate. If there's further you are wanting to hear?

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It has been so long since we have seen eachother and spoken I have no idea what he thinks of me, if he thinks of me at all... As I said in my previous post, he is someone who haunts my thoughts and my dreams.. I don´t know why, and I often wonder if he thinks about me too.

The fact you said he seeks structure and happiness makes a lot of sense as he was not in a good place last time I saw him. He was (or is) a writer, poems, songs, so the journal writing definitely resonates.
The thing you say he is finally walking away from I don´t know what that refers to, I guess a bad situation he had been in?

Where you said "I feel enormous emotions but can't express them." Is that towards me? He definitely struggled to express his emotions.

posted November 25, 2023 11:47 AM            

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Originally posted by sashavittoria:
Hey MM, thank you so much. I would love a retry if it isn’t any trouble. I also wondered if he/his higher self would be too closed off to channel at all. He seems very disconnected. Which is why I’m at a loss, seeking validation for what I sense and believe, but for which I have no “proof”.

I agree but in a slightly different way… I think many soulmates, one twin flame. All being very karmic in the sense that all relations, I believe, have a karmic history - since we have all met before.

I know we have both been struggling with the TF stuff for awhile…

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sashavittoria, I forgot to mention ..
You wrote:
"I think many soulmates, one twin flame. All being very karmic in the sense that all relations, I believe, have a karmic history "

I agree! Also, I'm going to read on the other thread before coming back to your TF. I did collect a good selection of the cards that open my seeing up a bit wider where a TF might be involved. I very much appreciate your patience in me. I was super sleepy last night. I do find it odd but true, we get a lot of DLs anspd see with our 3rd eye when between wake/sleep state. The more retired I am, the more messages come. Idk why I went on over that, I feel I'm in a dream state maybe. lol

On your Interpersonal forum thread, if you'd like in a couple days I can help you come up with other ways to research this connection between he/you.

I'll bb to this thread sometime after readout other Q. ♡

sashavittoria,
We're using a special deck as well to see if there's more involving the connection/ disconnect between you.
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How is the connection between sashavittoria and her person? Is he her twin?
Please clarify -

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Q1
I feel he's making a concerted effort to keep you from his energy. It's as if he wants the disconnect. It looks like he's living what he might believe is his "best life" as a single guy. He is staying sharp looking and definitely wanting attention, much like a narc may do! This particular deck reflects this card as a "show off" type posing for a camera.
He might have been investing time in making money and money in getting attention from those whom could well be superficial.
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Ace of Pentacles, Moon, 9 of Pentacles

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Q2
He might have gone quiet on you just after you cut of his attitude. It's as if you spoke stern truth and told him only integrity would meet you but he chose to choke off his dialog. He's protecting himself from saying anything or m7ch to you. As well his play book is already been done. He realized you heard his games and he's saying "I had the last words". As if he felt he was a Victor in a battle against you. He's working hard to hold back from any activity towards/with you.
This maybe so but -
He watches you? He's stalking you online, possibly in the 3d too.

Queen of swords
8 of pentacles, knight of swords

Clarifications -
Q1 - 16 (houses 1, 6, 7)
#1 "patterns"
"I'm triggered, old patterns surfaced "
#6 "Trust"
"Though the universe works in mysterious ways, I judge this situation, rather than surrender to it"

To disconnect, hold back from you, he feels safer. It's his childhood triggers I feel. It is difficult to trust due to them.m

Q2
23 (house 2, 3 and 5)
#2 "Romantic messages"
"I want to hold you in my arms and feel our bodies ignite as one."
#3 "Growth"
I'm changing this pattern and moving forward. "

I'm asking "Where is he moving forward, with whom?"

If there's anyone else it's full of conflict.
Releasing the old pattern leaves him sleepless. With bad dreams. He felt he needed to remove people from his story. Leaving them, ghosting them. This maybe you as well others. He is facing others as if he is standing his ground. This actually feels like family. He does come off as having a "win at all cos5s" attitude. Like having that attitude with you that he feels he needs the last word.
He could be hanging out with or has ghosted people whom could have initials of PB, MG, CB or RG. They don't have to be both initials.
Probably air signs too. Or Libra season he went cutting ppl off. Sagittarius, Libra and Leo. These houses as well ppl could figure 8nto his story.

Ultimately he might truly have narc traits but he might be trying to break old patterns now. Which he's going at it solo but his effort is being used to ice you out. He is still connected, but he's trying to not you realize it.

9 of Swords, 5 of swords, 7 of swords and 7 of wands.

posted November 25, 2023 06:05 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Vradec,

P might say: He feels rather romantic about you, you bring out his youth. He says you are refreshing. "I find you complex, yet restoring in my energy, you inspire me".
"I quietly watch you from afar, I withhold this because I often romanticize our moment we meet. I'm protective of your knowing as it is a bit embarrassing I am an emotional guy. Something about you does make me feel in a balance that I very much hope will continue."

Please let me know how this feels. I think he is as invested in this upcoming meeting as you are.

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posted November 25, 2023 10:10 PM            

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Originally posted by pixieangel:
Hi MoonMystic
Eventhough it's been some time since I've spoken to M, this resonates and sounds like him. Would you mind delving snd seeing if some more things come up? I'm curious. I thought for the longest time he was my tf. Thanks so much.

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Hi Pixieangel! Thank you for the feedback.
I'm happy to have brought something that may resonate. I'll ask if he could be your tf and dive deeper.

Is *M* your tf?
10 of Pentacles, Tower, 5 of wands
I feel there's a possibility of yes! These aren't the proper energies but the conflict
, shock and beginning/ ending is fitting. I'm clarifying tower & 5 of wands with another deck.
8 Saturn, Pluto and Capricorn, Aquarius, Scorpio. Fixed, Cardinal, structural but M's been going through a DNOTS (dark night of the soul).

Clarification 5 of cups. He has felt lost and possibly feeling he was thrown away. Seeing himself outside the structure. As I see this he is viewing the "11" as in twin scenario.

posted November 25, 2023 10:11 PM            

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Originally posted by sashavittoria:
Thank you Moon

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posted November 25, 2023 10:25 PM            

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Originally posted by itisokay:
Hello moon
I had a friend whom I had romantic feelings for. Now he seems like he even considers if he should greet me, sometimes he does and sometimes he doesn’t. (Lets call him S) I really wonder what goes in his mind, he is the biggest mystery for me.
Thank you very much for helping a lot <3

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Hello itisokay. You're welcome. Let's see what we can hear from S.

"S" might say to you,
"I'm firmly holding control over my emotions. I have plenty to say butam waiting for the proper moment. I feel my biggest value, legacy of my lifetime is my friend group. I haven't been much in person with my friends but I know they are there for me. Including you! In fact
I do plan to come towards you. It will be gradually. I'm planning a cautious and focused trail in your direction. I need to avoid any discord from other's who might cause me any trouble. As there might be some that have trouble seeing me change. As well, I might have trouble changing so I'm feeling taking this slow is easier for us both."

King of swords, hanged man, 10 of pentacles, knight of pentacles and 5 of swords.
With the hanged man as your major arcana, I feel maybe pisces season.

Please let me know if I should go further or if anything resonates. Hope things do happen good in this for you!

posted November 25, 2023 10:27 PM            

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Originally posted by LibraGirl:
Thank you so much I feel this resonated as I know deep inside it pained him not being the father he could be as all his life he fought his addiction he couldn't escape it and I just hope he is okay❤️

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You're very welcome

posted November 25, 2023 10:35 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlove22.

summerlove22,

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It has been so long since we have seen eachother and spoken I have no idea what he thinks of me, if he thinks of me at all... As I said in my previous post, he is someone who haunts my thoughts and my dreams.. I don´t know why, and I often wonder if he thinks about me too.

The fact you said he seeks structure and happiness makes a lot of sense as he was not in a good place last time I saw him. He was (or is) a writer, poems, songs, so the journal writing definitely resonates.
The thing you say he is finally walking away from I don´t know what that refers to, I guess a bad situation he had been in?

Where you said "I feel enormous emotions but can't express them." Is that towards me? He definitely struggled to express his emotions.

And I have no idea what this could be:
"You taught me something that was key to my needing to cut free from where I was no longer needed."

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summerlove22,

Yes, walking from a situation since you or one he held from your knowledge of.

Yes! Enormous love for you, he low key watches you now too.

Something involving another person likely was out of balance. He learned by how you treated him, he deserves more like your way. Another somebody didn't treat him as well. This could have been an actual relationship or idea of one. For instance he could have held hope for an X to return. His feelings changed as you somehow taught him or were somewhat a facilitating factor in his decision to move away from anything that wasn't balanced. Justice (Libra).

posted November 25, 2023 10:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Vradec:
Thank you so so much for this, I’m grateful for your time and energy! I had hoped that he secretly has some romantic feelings/intentions towards me, so this lifts my spirits. To know that he may be thinking about it at all and even romanticising it makes me happy! Especially as he seems to be ignoring me!

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posted November 26, 2023 12:06 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
teasel,

C has had dreams where some type of forgiveness was exchanged by you both. You each in the dreams saw "justice". She won't tell you but wants to, "sis, my dream was peaceful as we were again content in being sisters, yet awakening from the dreams I felt that same hurt feeling of our disharmony. It is time we come away from isolation of one another. I'm wondering if you've felt this way too?"
"Forgiveness &Justice with "she sleeps with the stars", 3 of swords and (rev) hermit.

15th oracle- Harvest: Abundance, Gratitude, security and patience.

I feel in time from her unspoken message, she and you will find yourselves speaking words that will heal because deep down, C has wanted resolution and your wisdom, warmth and love. One of you may like owls or see the other as pretty wise!

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Thank you.

Owls are one of the animals/birds that I love. I heard one outside my bedroom window, around July 4th, and hours before you did this reading, I was playing a video game, and I changed my glider to the owl I got through the game, early this year.