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posted November 10, 2002 09:51 PM         

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Yes Bernsie it did work.

Prayer and magick work in the same ways really.

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posted October 22, 2003 05:45 AM         

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i was brought up to believe that pagan and atheist are one and the same ...is this correct.....

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posted October 22, 2003 01:30 PM         

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An atheist doesn't believe in a god. Pagans believe in a goddess. Many Pagans also believe in more than one deity.

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posted October 22, 2003 04:18 PM         

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Actually, Pagans believe in a God and Goddess but they treat the Goddess as more important. I'm not trying to be gender biased it's just that in Wicca the Goddess is more discerned. There are even some pagans who still believe in the Greek Gods and Goddesses. Isis is still one of the favorites she has been so for thousands and thousands of years.

-StarLover

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posted October 22, 2003 06:17 PM         

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Of course, you are correct, Star!

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posted October 23, 2003 11:59 AM         

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Has the spirit of Isis ever incarnated into earthly form? How many times? I'm just wondering.

-StarLover

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posted October 23, 2003 02:01 PM         

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Don't know. That's probably a Twelfth Night Secret.

Most of the world's large religions are monotheistic (one god), Pagans are usually polytheistic (many gods), and atheists believe in no gods (without theism).

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posted October 23, 2003 04:44 PM         

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Why won't they publish that book? It's so frusterating. Are they afraid to edit something which Linda woudn't like? Are they trying to cover it up? You got any real updates Randall?

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posted October 24, 2003 01:51 AM         

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No one has the manuscript (just a few notes Linda wrote).

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posted October 24, 2003 11:59 AM         

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But I thought she did finish it. So I don't believe there were only a few notes. I thought they just didn't want to publish it, for whatever reason. Right?

-StarLover

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posted October 24, 2003 12:24 PM         

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Linda once said that she thought the soul of Isis was reincarnated in her.

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posted October 24, 2003 01:09 PM         

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I believe it's finished, but I don't think anyone has the manuscript.

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posted October 25, 2003 10:58 AM         

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Maybe the manuscript will appear one day.

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posted October 25, 2003 03:00 PM         

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I really hope they find that manuscript. I pray it wasn't taken or anything far worse.

-StarLover

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posted October 30, 2003 12:10 AM         

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...and so the treasure hunt for the Lost Linda Manuscript begins!
it's probably in the keeping of a wise someone who will have it published when the time is right.

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posted November 04, 2003 02:10 PM         

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To the top!

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posted December 20, 2003 04:20 AM         

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oh hey..I just found this thread.
It's fun to explore the forums I rarely frequent. This site is sooo huge..anyhoo..
Let's see...
I dressed up as a witch just about every year for Halloween starting at age 5..I was completely facinated by the idea of growing up to become this wise crone with a raven on her shoulder from a very young age. I would set up secret spooky laboratories in my basement in an attempt to stretch out Halloween as long as possible for myself..(I was abit strange as a kid perhaps? )
I had no idea that there were actually Witches in the world for real until I too read _The Mists of Avalon_ at age 18 (Amber- )and was prompted to investigate goddess religions further. I was delighted to find rows of books about the topic and quickly became a metaphysical bookshop junkie.
"Hi, my name is Harpyr and I can't stop buying books about witchcraft...."
Well..then it evolved to psychology and then into astrology.. but I digress.

The writer that resonated most deeply with me was Starhawk, writing about Reclaiming Tradition Witchcraft which was born out of a collective of witches in the early 80's who wanted to blend their earth-based spirituality with social activism. I'm largely solitary but I do attend gatherings and actions with Reclaiming whenever I can find the time and/or resources to get myself there.

For some info-
These are The Principals of Unity~a statement of the core values of Reclaiming.

Here's my favorite piece of pagan liturgy- The Charge of the Goddess

My favorite part is this~ "And you who seek to know Me, know that the seeking and yearning will avail you not, unless you know the Mystery: for if that which you seek, you find not within yourself, you will never find it without."

Here's a working definition of Reclaiming for yet more info.

Gosh, I hope I don't sound like some sort of proselytizing billboard with all those links.

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posted December 22, 2003 11:12 AM         

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by the definition of pagan in the dictionary, I guess I would be considered pagan, especially given the definition of heathen (One who adheres to the religion of a people or nation that does not acknowledge the God of Judaism, Christianity, or Islam.) I guess I would qualify. Though I do not consider myself a heathen, pagan, agnostic, atheist or any other word to describe it. I am simple and seeker of knowledge and truth, I follow that path wherever it leads me, and I will admit that direction is away from nearly any for of organized religion, though aspects of some I have found to be true, they all contain numerous flaws in my eyes. I feel as though most seek to control the thought of their members and rather that encourage them to explore truth, instead discorage questions and attempt to force acceptance on penalty of eternal damnation. This I find unacceptable, and thus will not attach myself to any organization with such practices. I have also found it to be true that each individual must find their own truth and the truth cannot merely be told and accepted, but must be constantly be questioned and revised. There is always something which has been interpereted wrong of mis-stated. The truth is constantly evolving and growning, and thus must be given room to do so. I have taken this things I have found to be true in my learnings and applied them to my own beliefs. If there is a word for this I am sure that the definition for it is far too limiting and thus incorrect, and so I do not attempt to define my beliefe system in any word other that the truth, as I know it.

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posted December 24, 2003 04:56 AM         

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Nice post, Grayheart. I totally hear what you're saying. I don't really like labelling my beliefs because I think it's too hard to try to fit my spirituality into a nice, neat definition. I suppose I identify most with the pagan religions tho--I practice magick, observe/celebrate the seasonal changes, and am somewhat polytheistic--altho for me, I tend to have a very abstract concept of Deity (I don't consider God/ess to be an actual entity, but I perceive him/her as being more of an energy that is perfectly balanced that is in and around everything, and that we can draw from, get in touch with, etc--the different pantheons of gods and goddesses I tend to think of as being just different aspects of this energy). I very much believe in polarity, mostly because it makes sense to me because it's something that I see everyday reflected in nature: light and darkness, the cycle of vegetation dying out in the fall and winter to subsequently be reborn in the spring, positive and negative, masculine and feminine, etc...each of these is a different side of the same coin, one can't exist without the other. And that's how I perceive the Divine--a balanced composition of all of these aspects, although at times some of the aspects are more apparent than are others.

So, that's where I am now, although when I was a teenager I was quite the Fundamentalist, hehe. Went to one of the Assemblies of God churches (pentecostal) for a couple years, but it just never felt right to me, probably because at church I always had this overwhelming sense of fear and dread (there was LOTS of "hellfire and brimstone" talk). And that's when I started trying to discover my own truth.

Anybody have any favorite spells they like to do? So far, color magick and candle magick has worked really well for me. Plus, it's fairly quick and easy. =) One thing that I've found to be really helpful right now with all the cold weather (and I live in the midwest, too) is some color visualization to stay warm. If I have to walk outside in the cold, I try to visualize myself surrounded by a globe of warm, red light...like the light is actually flowing over and around my body, and that at the outside of the red light is like a force field, and I picture the cold weather trying to break through it, but being unsuccessful. And it's seemed to work really well, too. Even helped with a really bad ice cream headache that I had tonight; I pictured the red light massaging the back of my throat and my head and the brainfreeze started diminishing immediately. =)

Take care =)

~Amber

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posted December 26, 2003 01:32 PM         

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posted December 27, 2003 12:37 PM         

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Wonder if it would work in the reverse (to keep us cool in hot weather)?

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funny thing, color magic is. See I have always found colors and visualization to be extremely potent for accomplishing self healing and such. And being the curious Gemini I am, I dained to discover why it would be so effective, where many similar things are not so and to me did not seem so different, like fragrance and incense, those have never seemed to aid me at all, yet colors and visualisation nearly always have. On my spirals and quest for answers I came upon some information the source of which I have misplaced, but it led me to a theory about color magic and visualisations that I thought quite interesting and possible even scientifically verifiable with teh proper instruments. See as has already been established, everything in nature vibrates/resonates in a certain way, at different frequencies. Each color has a unique frequency as does each sound. Vibration is the very core of what make matter behave the way it does. And by visualizing different colors, we may in fact be altering the frequency at which we vibrate thus changing how we react to our enviuronment. Now I have no way of measuring resonance, but I am sure someone does have a way, so this theory could be tested, but for now it will have to remain a theory.

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posted January 05, 2004 07:28 PM         

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Linda also wrote how color is extremely powerful, and scientists wouldn't know what they were messing with if they attempted to expirement on a body.

Another good magick is just praying to God. Most of the time it's just enough.

-StarLover

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