posted February 02, 2012 05:24 PM            

by Karen Peebles

This was a great read (also a pretty quick read - i read it in one night) especially for people who have contemplated it, know someone who has passed that way or just interested in what could be. I highly recommend it.

Interesting what is said about the "Emerald City" of healing.

posted February 02, 2012 05:28 PM            

Beyond the Other Side of Suicide

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The Bridge That Spans Our Worlds (sequel)

posted February 02, 2012 05:37 PM            

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I want to begin this book by plainly stating a universal truth S you exist. There is nothing, and I want to repeat, nothing, that can stop you from existing. You can choose to end your life early, but you will continue to exist. Please be aware that “suicide” is a term that is used by society as a whole to define the early ending of a person’s life before their natural time.

The term suicide is such a cold and impersonal word, it can even be used to define a person who had ended their life early, as in “a suicide”. It is not, however, a term used here in the realm where I exist. We have no such term for the soul of a human being who leaves his body before it is time to. We have only unconditional love for such a soul. It is my great desire to bring knowledge to the Earth that I have been given to understand since my crossing over into the spirit world S knowledge that I feel would be helpful to people and to families who are suffering from the stigma of suicide. For you see, it is the “stigma” of ending one’s life early that causes much of the grief that families must endure long after the death of their loved one. It is the “stigma” that attaches itself to a person who has ended their life early, that creates in and around that person the identity of a suicide victim. Because of the stigma attached to suicide, the family of a person who has ended their life out of time does not suffer a typical loss, as, say, the family of a person who dies from a heart attack, or an accident. They will suffer a double loss, one far greater than a regular death because this death must forever be kept silent in their hearts or spoken of in hushed tones. When a man or woman, a boy or a girl commits suicide, people tend to familiarize them with the event. They tend to see suicide in all aspects of the person. Then they fail to remain the brilliant musician, or the budding artist, or the aspiring young person that they were, but now they have attached to them this stigma of suicide that defines them anew. If you notice that I have used that word “stigma” quite a few times now, it is by no accident, it is to show you that the stigma is actual, it is real, and that it is a thing that does much damage and creates much needless grief for the family. This is a grave mistake for family and friends to make, to attach that stigma on to the person’s identity. Ending one’s life prematurely does not erase that person’s life. It does not discredit them from accomplishments they have achieved, by any means.

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posted February 02, 2012 05:47 PM            

“Upon crossing over, souls of humans who have ended their lives early are immediately surrounded by high spirits who begin work on the soul to rebuild their self-esteem and character. They are given the opportunity to look at their lives on Earth in sequence and learn from their past actions. It is not at all what you think for them. Only on Earth is there the taboo in regards to what you call suicide. Here, it is just the opposite. It is those souls who need the most nurturing and extreme love, which is what they receive. They are not judged by their final actions. They are given understanding and the greatest compassion.”

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“Having committed suicide does not define who I am. Neither am I the sum total of my past actions. When I ended my life, and crossed over into the spirit world, there was an almost instant recognition that I had had other options before me that I chose to ignore. There was desperation from recognizing that fact. There was tremendous regret, confusion, and a sense of deep loss of myself. Then, the way that I was surrounded by such healing beings of spirit, it is indescribable for me to tell you. I was enveloped in their care, rebuilt from the inside out, with no portion left unaided. I was given the unique opportunity to see again my life, aspects of my life, choices I had made, decisions. I was not judged, but I was given this to learn from. To grow by.

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Now I know that many of the things I have to say are not going to be easily accepted by you, and may seem as though I am advocating the early ending of life. That will only seem so because you do not have the understanding that we have here. There on Earth, suicide is the unforgivable sin. Here, in the spirit realm, it is an act of desperation. It is truly the forgivable act. By it’s very nature, it warrants forgiveness and love. On Earth, you have a vested interest in scaring the unfortunate person who is already under torment of the spirit and mind. Scaring them into thinking that if they do thisS if they end their life S they are doomed. Your interest is in keeping them there on the Earth for selfish purposes. To keep them near you. To keep them living because death is too scary for you to think about. These are all wrong thoughts. They do nothing to help the person who is going through this trial. They do nothing to help you either. They will serve only to confuse.

posted February 02, 2012 05:48 PM            

“I’m trying to tell you that the ending of life prematurely is not necessary in order to escape the problems that you face in life. I’m trying to show you how easy it is to get mixed up in your thinking that the problems are life itself, when actually, the problems have nothing to do with who you are, intrinsically. You are spirits of pure being that cannot be extinguished no matter what you attempt to do with or to your physical bodies.

Problems arise throughout your life because you have drawn them to yourself. Your greater conscience seeks out newer challenges. Newer forms of growth. You incarnated because you wanted to do something on Earth, but you have long ago forgotten what that was that you’re trying to do. The problems in life are your soul’s attempt to remind you that you are seeking to grow, always to grow.

How can you grow with no challenge before you? How can you learn if life does not hand you a curve ball every now and then? It’s easy to cut out of life early, leaving the problems behind you. Nothing could be easier than to walk away from what does not please you in life. No. I’m not saying that it’s all right to end your life or that it’s all wrong to end your life. I’m saying that there are other options that you may not have thought about.

Choose to exist which by the way you cannot help but do. Choose to exist for just another moment of time. Separate yourself from your problems if you are not interested in that growth right now. And just exist.

I want to tell you that life and death are natural stops along your journey through personal evolution. Death is a natural part of life.

There is no shame in contemplating your death, in thinking it over, in being in awe of the wonder of death. Your society will try to convince you that talk and thoughts of death are immoral.

I will tell you that even serious consideration of ending one’s own life is shameless. It takes great courage of spirit to look at one’s own mortality. It is something not many people are able to do. It builds tremendous character to decide to die, and then decide after all to live. That process can be life altering.

Do not look down on any person you meet in life that tells you they have thought about suicide. Or attempted it. Look at them in wonder. They have dared to look past the barrier that divides our realms of existence.

posted February 03, 2012 01:32 AM            

People say it's wrong and selfish but we do not understand the persons mental or physical anquish. We say, it gets better, don't give up and all that jazz but individuals and there circustances are different.

Thank you for sharing this. Sorry for the ramblings. This topic stirs emotions in me and I feel deeply for those souls who reach a point in their lives when they think no one cares for them or there is no way out.

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posted February 03, 2012 03:22 AM            

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Thank you for sharing this. Sorry for the ramblings. This topic stirs emotions in me and I feel deeply for those souls who reach a point in their lives when they think no one cares for them or there is no way out.

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Oh no! I'm so happy you replied! I thought no one would. I feel the same way. And suicide has touched my life in more ways than one too.

This might be a great book for your friend to read (and you as well).

I know that I'll never be able to look at suicide the same way again and also probably never be able to get back to that point myself. I now know that it is no way out of ones problems and in a way just compounds them. So, I walked away from it feeling like i had a wider scope and better understanding of things. Made me like life a little more.

What's interesting is that I've been turning up info from other sources that confirms much of what's in this book - w/o really looking for the info.

It's said that upon crossing over, the person who's ended their life early quickly and painfully regrets their choice (in MOST cases - there are exceptions in which it is more "okay" to do so) and is sort of shocked or jolted into the fact that they are dead....but they arent really dead - they just don't have a body now! :O and really begin to realize what they have done.

They often try to get back into their body, of which they cant - that is very painful in itself. And then have to witness and feel the pain others go through from their choice - they feel it all very deeply (now THAT is "hell").

As is said in many ancient texts, hell is in your mind, it is always of your own making (even when you are dead, because you carry your mind over with you). We only judge ourselves in the end and that alone can be painful enough.

But they are not doomed, as many religious people here on earth will try to tell us, and they do receive great healing and a chance to see how they could have done differently.

They also, like everyone, they get to see the good they've spread throughout their lives. A person who has exited early is more than that one choice afterall! They are not only "a suicide" now and the rest of their life amounted to nothing, no. How silly. And they should be remembered that way - held in loved ones minds that way. Because it does help them.

Thanks for responding

Also, i only just found out that one can download the Kindle app on one's computer for free, which is nice when you want to read a book right away, don't care to have a hard-copy in your possession, and also, it's a bit less expensive that way.

I'm looking forward to reading her other books on this subject too.

All the best, charmaine. Glad you found this of interest and help maybe ...

posted February 03, 2012 03:27 AM            

People need help in this kind of crisis, not other people to make them feel worse.

Humans need to work on understanding this subject more and not turn a blind eye or be scared to talk about it. To be able to help other people out of it once and for all. To give them a new perspective on the workings of life and death. To help them understand that death is not the end and it really isnt a way out.

That's my opinion. And the same for regular death - it should not be looked at as something people shouldnt talk about. We are all headed there. Wouldnt one want to educate themselves enough to make the transition, and journey after that, the best it can be and rest their minds about it all a bit?

Anyway, they've been passions of mine for a long time now - learning about the subjects and being ever so curious about it all. No one wants to talk about it though. Most would rather pretend it will never happen.

Why does it have to be depressing or "dark" subject matter? To me, thinking and talking about it, is just the opposite!

posted February 03, 2012 09:44 AM            

Recently people have asked me what life is like on the other side for people who commit suicide. I’ve written about the Spiritual Consequences of Suicide in another article, so today I’ll discuss what I’ve seen and what I understand about life among those who suicide.

Do suicide victims go to Hell?
This is the number one question people ask me. If I thought my loved one was going to Hell I’d ask that question too! Religion appears to doom people to Hell if they take their own life. I guess it’s considered a sin. Suiciders (sorry had to make up a word) do not go to Hell. At least, not the Christian Hell with the devil, the eternal torture, and decaf.

Hell is a state of mind. So technically you could put yourself in a self-imposed Hell if you are suffering from guilt, shame, and if you fear judgment. I don’t recommend it, but some people insist on doing this to themselves. If you do find yourself in Hell you’ll want to beat a hasty retreat. Read up on How To Get Out of Hell.

Bottom line here is that no one is relegated to Hell for ending his life. If during your Life Review you feel you’ve done so much wrong that you can’t be forgiven, you are free to flog yourself for eternity, but it is neither required nor necessary, and I don’t recommend it. Forgive yourself instead, learn from your mistakes, and move on.

Do suiciders linger or cross over?
I’ve encountered both.

I’ve been in contact with people who killed themselves, shed their mortal coil, sloughed off their ego, and bounced happily and merrily into the light to greet friends and family on the other side. The commonalities I’ve seen in this group are people who understand in advance that suicide is not a sin, who understand or are aware of how things work on the other side, and those who are not ashamed or feel guilty about ending their life prematurely. They cross over happily and easily.

I’ve also been in contact with suiciders who linger, who refuse to go into the light because of fear, shame or guilt. They don’t want to be judged. So they hang on as long as they can, usually by attaching themselves to a family member and using their energy to stay connected to Earth.

Others realize they made a mistake and are desperate to get back to their bodies, so they hang on for a bit too. Some linger to get forgiveness from their living loved ones, or in an attempt to ease their loved ones’ pain. Some linger because they’re still carrying depression and can’t slough it off.

Who helps or manages suiciders?
Those who suicide and linger are not alone. Not by a long shot. There are angels hovering around them to help them heal and cross over. And the angels guard them so they are not disturbed by other beings hanging around on the same plane. The angels try to help them forgive themselves so they can cross over peacefully.

How can you best help a suicide?
I know that when someone commits suicide it can create feelings of anger towards them. That’s very normal. If you think your loved one is lingering, you can help them cross over completely by forgiving them, releasing your anger, and sending them love. When you’re ready.

For those who are lingering out of fear, you can also encourage them to go to Source. God/Source will gladly accept them back into the light. After all, we are all pieces of Source energy and we may return at any time. Send them love and reassurance that they will be received with open arms.

Are they suffering?
Some of the suiciders who linger do appear to be suffering emotionally. Again, this is unnecessary and hopefully will not last long. But I have encountered some spirits who replay and repeat the misery in their lives over and over again and continue to wallow in depression, despair, and emotional turmoil until they can be crossed over by the angels. If you suspect your loved one is in this state, it is even more important to help them cross over by talking to them, encouraging them to go into the light, and to forgive themselves.

What sort of signs do suiciders send to their loved ones?
Pretty much the same signs you’ll get from any deceased loved one trying to get your attention.

You might feel their presence near you
Their special song comes on the radio when you’re thinking about them
Clock stops
Electrical disturbances for no apparent reason
Pictures or photographs get knocked over
Smelling their scent

But the big one is they’ll come to you in your dreams or while you’re meditating. You can talk to a deceased loved one at any time. To hear or see their response, you’ll need to be dreaming, meditating, or have mediumistic abilities. Even if you can’t hear or see them, still talk to them as it will help them cross over. If you really need to know what’s happening or you want to make sure your loved one is receiving your messages, you can book a reading with a medium.

Do suiciders regret their suicide?
Regret is the number one emotion I sense in the people who come to me during readings. However, I am usually connecting with the ones who do regret their passing, so I wouldn’t say that all suiciders regret their act. In fact, I’ve connected with at least 3 suiciders that I can recall who basically said, “Welp, that life sucked. No big. Ready to move on and try something else.” They really take it in stride.

Regret comes when they realize there were other ways to handle their problems that they simply couldn’t see while alive and in the thick of it.

The game of life
Remember that life is like a game. You make a character, start the game, and do the best you can with the resources you get. If you get to a point where playing the game is simply too painful, you can choose to stop playing. Sometimes you don’t realize that help was a phone call away, or right around the corner, but it’s not the end of the world.

posted February 03, 2012 09:52 AM            

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NDEs reveal there is no condemnation from God for our actions. The problem many suicides face after death is difficulty in forgiving themselves for the horror they have put family and friends through by taking their own life. One remedy for helping a suicide cope with this predicament comes from the Tibetan Book of the Dead, an ancient Buddhist book of the afterlife. The Book of the Dead is one of the oldest books on Earth documenting NDEs. In my view, this source should be given great respect. The Book of the Dead mentions people who succeeded in committing suicide and who became imprisoned in the experience of their suicide. Accordingly, they can be freed from this condition through the prayers of the living and by them imagining streams of light pouring on them. Such actions free the person from the pain and confusion of their suicide. The Book of the Dead also mentions that people have no choice but to follow any negative karma resulting from their suicide.

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posted February 03, 2012 09:55 AM            

Those speaking from the afterlife in all forms, from all sources, state without variation that those who commit suicide don't go to hell. The hell thing is an awful, primitive, tribal notion that comes from a judgment and vengeance mentality characteristic of the medieval church. It is a fiction intended to keep the faithful in line with the church's teachings, but it has no basis in reality. Read about the church's development of the hell myth. Read about the fact that Jesus (Yeshua) never taught the hell myth.
Instead, all who describe what happens to suicides in the afterlife explain that they are met with understanding and compassion. They endure seeing the devastating effect they've had on their loved ones by ending their lives, but not as a punishment. They are simply aware of what those left behind are going through. Then, they must face the same issues they thought they were escaping in life, but now when they resolve them, they won't be with the people who love them who could have enjoyed the time with them, and with whom they could have had a happy life after resolving the issues.

The very clear, consistent message from those in the afterlife is that no one judges us; we judge ourselves. Eternal life is composed of lessons through which we become increasingly spiritually mature. We learn about ourselves and our behavior, feel we need to change because we ourselves aren't satisfied with our present status or we see the rewards of the change, and we ourselves initiate the change. No one judges us.

This is a quotation from the book I co-authored on induced after-death communications:

One of the prominent, recurring lessons we have learned from both IADCs [induced after-death communicative] and NDEs [near-death experiences] is that when someone has caused pain to others in life, the person doesn't get away with it. In the life review portion of the NDE, one faces the emotional effects of their actions on others. In IADCs the deceased who committed suicide are experienced as very aware of the pain their suicide caused in their friends and loved ones. The result is deep, genuine remorse in every IADC of a suicide that I have done: "I'm really sorry. I really didn't know my suicide would have this effect on everyone. It wasn't your fault." (Induced After-Death Communication: A New Therapy for Grief and Traumatic Loss. Hampton Roads: 2005. p. 84)

Robert Brown, the well-known medium who writes about what he has learned about the afterlife from spirit, writes this about suicides who have crossed over:

posted February 03, 2012 10:10 AM            

I mentioned before that many individuals who have sat before me privately or in groups have had a deep rooted fear that the individual they love may not be in that place they call heaven or wherever else you believe exists. The turmoil and the anguish they put themselves through is tremendous and I can’t help feeling that false doctrine is at the bottom of it all after all – doctrine is of man and not divine in any way. I have news for you; those who commit suicide are taken into the loving arms of spirit people in the spirit world who love and care for them until they reach their own awakening. Of course those that are left behind often do not understand this and the fear their loved one has gone to hell or a holding place can often cause great distress. You can be assured this does not happen, and if you can envision your loved one in the arms of a beautiful angel or your own loved ones who have passed over, you can rest peacefully knowing that your loved ones are safe and well.

Ok, so now you are going to ask how we know this and I don’t blame you. There is a plethora of information that has come from beyond the grave time and time again -not only in readings but in trance seances where the evidence has been irrefutable. Scientists that have been investigating the afterlife have so much intelligence at their fingertips that skepticism in pseudo form is no longer valid. However, probably the most satisfying evidence is the evidence, which one witnesses in a private sitting when the loved one comes back and tells how it is from the horses mouth – along with the evidence required for the sitter. Often our loved ones will return to try to allay the fears of those they left behind by little tell tale signs they are around. Much of the time, these signs are missed and often ignored because of the grief one may be experiencing or indeed because of other individuals perceptions. They will often visit in your dream state just to let you now that all is well and sadly, the individual receiving the message will put this down to their grief and needing to feel they are alive. Other small signs such as hearing them calling you or manipulating energy in your environment are also often missed. If you could only know – not believe – what I know, you would take comfort in knowing that your loved ones are not in a terrible place if they took themselves over. They are in loving arms and will let you know they are well.

posted February 03, 2012 10:22 AM            

(imo there is a lot of disinfo out there though - stemming from rigid religious beliefs)

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What Happens In The Afterlife To People Who Commit Suicide?

“In this video report, I cover the subject of suicide from many different angles. Based on the evidence of my 13-year investigation into the afterlife, I share with you in this video what happens when people who have committed suicide return home to the spirit world, the consequences of their act, whether or not they go to a place some people might call hell, how their suicide affects their soul and their soul’s growth, how their pre-birth choices are connected to their suicide, and even how free will comes into play. If you have lost someone because they took their own life or you are merely curious about this subject, this video promises to be thought-provoking, insightful and comforting.” ~ Bob Olson, Afterlife TV

posted February 03, 2012 11:09 AM            

he touched on so many important points. and i appreciate the logical, matter of fact approach.

posted February 03, 2012 05:13 PM            

These two are the same book, but under a different title. So, don't make the mistake of buying both.

Beyond the Other Side of Suicide

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posted February 03, 2012 08:09 PM            

I noticed this one, which also seems good: