posted December 04, 2001 12:27 AM         

Ra~ As you know, I have to totally agree with VirgoRising and Gemini5er I am always anxious to read your posts

Randall~ Far be it from me to tell another Cappy how to run his show - but a *Dreamweaver* forum would truly be *fab* and probably a favorite among all kNowflakes

~Princess

posted December 04, 2001 12:30 AM         

I had a similar one a few years back. I had built a fire in the fireplace that got out of hand. Sparks flying over the roof and me with a hose dragged into the living room trying to put it out. I found out several days later that there was aspects of my life that needs to be cleansed....in other words burnt away.

Since it was a trip to see your kids, I wonder how they relate as the leaves were a memory of that trip. You might want to think about it in those terms.

A dream forum with Ra as moderator would be a 'dream'...but I think Ra is busier than a cat in a sandbox right now and barely has time to show up here. So we'll have to be satisfied with this for now. Like wanting a big chocolate cake and getting a 'little Debbie's' snack <sigh>...

Again, Princess...that is something about the 'leaves'.

posted December 04, 2001 02:51 AM         

~Princess

posted December 04, 2001 01:59 PM         

(ten minutes lapse as I try to think, I am moved)

I still do not know what to say except thank you, and that you all have given me the opportunity to enrich my own understanding. For that I cannot say thanks enough.

But YIVY and Princess are absolutely right, I have little time here. I enjoy this site very much and owe much of my recent growth to it (thanks Randall! ...and Dan ...and YIVY!), but time is the trickiest thing for me!

So thank you, again! (that just seems so inadequate!), I will have to keep it here.

Princess, speaking of time, I have run out of it. I will tell you what I have found tomorrow (I am sorry!). Suffice it to say, your dream now makes perfect sense, and you should really consider what you wish to communicate to your sister. I have a feeling that if you were to send her a simple note or card like you described, it would go a long way towards a start. You may even find that she is having similar thoughts.

I promise to detail your dream tomorrow!

Thanks AGAIN, everyone.

posted December 04, 2001 06:11 PM         

~Princess

posted December 04, 2001 10:12 PM         

I'm enjoying reading all these posts about dreams, I would contribute, but I believe it's all been said

posted December 05, 2001 02:03 PM         

I had better take this step by step or it will come out very jumbled (and it still might!).

Usually I would interpret the car as being the body, the physical vehicle, but here it represents a situation. Your sister is driving, she is in control of, or responsible for (apparently) the situation. The mailbox represents a message or communication and both of you are indicated in/for the message (we make deposit). There is particular value ($$) in this communication/message. Then you pull out the bag. This symbolizes emergence from subconsciousness. The appearance of the bag (the way it looks) indicates something of value, knowledge, or wisdom, and there is a feel of karma, or some old situation as well. Your thoughts about the bag show that you are more aware of its value than most others.

Looking beyond this covering, investigating the contents of this bag which has opened from within your consciousness, you find the coins. Here we have much immersed in symbolism. Gold coins usually signify success, but in this case the meaning is different. We have coins of red, but you know that they are gold. Red has multple meanings, several of which could easily apply here, but I will deal with two. First we have red for the emotions - either love or hate (or both). We also have the red of alchemical transformation, indicated by the red/gold connection, especially in conjunction with the circle (coin), which could also indicate cyclic activity, probably karmic in nature. Red represents that stage in which the "illuminated/aware life process [is] now ruled by the enlightened, 'spiritually objective' self. It precede[s]/fore[tells] of the completion of inner work." - Thomson - And this is further revealed by a pun on coin - "change". Gold represents the final stage of transformation or illumination.

So we have represented in these red, gold coins illumination or understanding gained through a changing of the emotional nature of the situation. How to change? The answer is in communication.

The aggression or control aspect of your sister is indicated by her driving and also by her statement, "let's just take it". I now get impressions of some rather personal issues involving you and your sister as well as perhaps another, or others in the "family". Your feelings of guilt, fear and sadness stem from this, and I need not go into further detail.

So we come back to communication. The blond woman. I will probably repeat what I said earlier. She does in fact represent divine wisdom, and certainly could be a manifestation of your higher self. But her smoking is a symbol, not a habit that your higher self has! It is a very clear symbol of the answer to the question, "how to change?" Communication/understanding. As I said before, the fact that the cigarette is always in her mouth is a symbol for communication. The smoke indicates the importance or the urgency for this. And, taken in conjunction with other symbols, it could also be indicating a karmic situation, or at least one that has been "smoking" for a "long" time. The fact that your sister noticed the blond as well indicates that she too is aware or is having thoughts about his situation, at least subconsciously and probably somewhat consciously.

Beginning some sort of communication with her dealing with this issue is important. Perhaps the "mailbox" should be your starting point. And I cannot help to be reminded of the red/gold symbolism. It is all around us at the moment. 'Tis the season, you know! Perhaps Christmas will be a possble time for some communication. Will you see her then?

posted December 05, 2001 06:03 PM         

I *will* write to my sister this day, and pray that my note is recieved in love and grace. No, we won't be together at Christmastime

Thank you, Ra, for your meticulous metaphysical attention to this dream. Words don't seem enough to express my gratitude - God/dess willing, some day I will be of the same help to you ...somehow.

~Princess

PS~ Can you suggest some good books that will get us dream *babies* started in understanding the symbolism of dreams?

posted December 05, 2001 11:33 PM         

Chronic Princess....I am very thankful you and your husband awoke in time to stop it from being worse.!!!!!!!

Auriel.... ...I had no idea you STOPPED writing about Chiron!!!! Get back to work!

I never had any trouble accepting the validity of Chiron...for I feel kinship with the wounded healer.

The idea that it is a bridge of sorts between Saturn and Uranus makes perfect sense.

What kind of havoc could Neptune cause if we were not able to heal?....and only Saturn can screw your head back on when you've lost it. I am gaining such respect for her in this rx! (Saturn will always be a woman to me...I am not sure why...)

In many ways in this life....I am a wounded healer myself......so I never gave thought to the fact that some astrologers did not touch on Chiron's importance...to me I found answers.

Oh and CP...when my father 'visits' my sister...she always smells cigarette smoke.

He visits me 'in person' so to speak...but with my sister it is always symbols like smoke...and owls.

and

posted December 06, 2001 02:04 AM         

Ra~ I have read your dream interpretation again (once more before bed so I can take it to sleep with me) and just wanted to say again, Thank you. You really are an

~Princess

posted December 06, 2001 01:27 PM         

And I like what you said about your "truth meter." This is the way it should be. Whatever I may say here is only one interpretation of many, and if it does not mean something to you, or if it just does not "feel" right, then it probably is not. I am not a professional by any stretch of the imagination, and whatever I say should be looked upon warily, skeptically, because this is the only way to ensure accuracy and legitimacy ... and truth. So I guess that is my disclaimer!

And you asked about books. There are many. If you wish to get a decent overview of the different interpretations, I recommend having at least two, but preferably three, separate references. Try to find ones that do not have just short, one-line definitions. There are so many to choose from, it will really be a matter of taste. Read a few definitions from one and compare them to another. You will quickly see a difference in quality of information.

posted December 06, 2001 04:30 PM         

It occurred to me too, that in interpreting someone elses dream/s, like Auriel says, it's important that the owner of the dream be open to the interpreter so that intuiting is easier, if not just possible. Is this true for you too, do you think?

~Princess

posted December 07, 2001 11:34 AM         

I "accidentally" read this yesterday from a July, 1973 copy of "The A.R.E. Journal":

"[Dreams] are phenomena, or experiences for a body to use, to apply, in its everyday walk of life..." - reading 4167-1

and,

"...all visions and dreams are given for the benefit of the individual, would they but interpret them correctly..." - 294-15

These quotes from Edgar Cayce, of course. I love Cayce!

Anyone can do this!

posted December 07, 2001 12:52 PM         

Are past A.R.E. Reviews available, do you know?

~Princess

posted December 07, 2001 04:00 PM         

And V.R., thanks! From what little I have read from you elsewhere, I would say that you are a prime candidate for doing some serious interpretting yourself!

posted December 08, 2001 12:26 PM         

Also, although my dad died of lung cancer which metastasized to all over his body, including his brain, 1.5 years prior he had a heart attack and had to have a quadruple bypass. I believe the weakness after this allowed the cancer to begin and it marched like Sherman who burned Atlanta and destroyed the whole south, all the way to the coast, through his entire body.

The heart thing could be his physical heart, or is he saying his heart hurts for me? When he left, his affairs were a mess, and we are not near through straightening out his estate. This fact aggrivates my current situation, since I have taken on a debt that my mother cannot handle. What my mother's car has to do with it now I do not know, but I drive her car frequently, and I now own the car my dad drove (He loved that car). Her car is old and threatens to break down sometimes, we have been able to fix it, so far.

My Daddy was a Taurus.

Anyone who has any ideas? Many thanks, as always, kind KNOWflakes.

------------------
In Liberty,
gemini5er

posted December 08, 2001 05:34 PM         

I can personally relate to this type of dream, I have had many like this, and I can tell you that there will be more to come if you remain open to it. Much healing is possible through communicating with your father this way, and this dream indicates a very good beginning.

Because of the nature of this dream, and because it is not a particularly urgent one, meaning that it initiates a first point of contact and not a time sensitive message, I would like to carefully look at it and the symbols being used. I can feel the communication, it is in there. And I am sure you can feel it to. There may not be anything more to add than what you already feel about it, but we will look at the symbology anyway, you never know! So, be patient with me, I want to look at this further, but unfortunately a little later.

I was with my father when he died, we worked together, and it was I and another who did the CPR as he slipped away. It was a shock like no other I have ever before experienced, but it opened up some peculiar doors. In fact, I feel that I owe much of my dream work capability to one of these doors which he is personally holding open.

I began to dream of him almost immediately afterward, and there was/is a definate progression at work. I almost always was aware that he had passed over. At first, every time I saw him I would immediately begin to cry uncontrollably and I would run to him, where he would simply hug and hold me. Later, I gained much more emotional control and began to interact with him, but he never speaks, even now, and only communicates through symbol.

Here is a short, memorable dream I had:

My father and I were in my mother's front yard, clearing out a place for him to build a log cabin, like the kind he used to talk about retiring to. We were building and came to a difficult point in construction. He cut a tricky notch into a log, and we tried to drop it into place. It was wrong, it would not fit. I knew my father well, and knew that this was just the sort of thing to light his short fuse. He loved to cuss when he got impatient, and when I looked up I totally expected to see his red face as he shouted the usual "G.. D.....!!" Instead, he winked at me, the log fell into place, and he chuckled. It was then that I knew he was fine where he was, enjoying it even, and that he intends to stay around (at least from our perspective) awhile. It does not sound like much, but it was a very healing dream/communication.

I strongly recommend that you write down any and every dream you have about him. You will be glad you did later!

posted December 08, 2001 06:28 PM         

~Princess

PS~ A real quickie dream I had the other night - not much more than a few *frames* (two, exactly - and identical, like instant replay) but sooo vivid... I remember noticing the movement of my *long pony tail* on top of my head (my hair is fairly short) as it would swing into my peripheral vision, but it wasn't my *hair*, rather a long bright RED shiney tassle! I recall in my dream that I knew people would make fun of it, but that I didn't care because I knew it was supposed to be like that That was several nights ago, but it pops into my head several times a day as if in living color. Do you see a significant meaning to it?

posted December 08, 2001 11:20 PM         

That pony-tail thing on the top of your head was your astral cord, more than likely. There seem to be two main places where people perceive it, the solar plexus and the top of the head, or crown chakra.

posted December 09, 2001 12:29 AM         

Gem....what a wonderful way for your father to let you know he cares and is still trying to look out for you and your mother. Ra, wouldn't the car be a vehicle (like a body a soul inhabits)????

And Ra, maybe your Dad was just letting you know that dreams really do come true, if you want them bad enough and don't let world worries get in the way.

posted December 09, 2001 01:18 AM         

YIVY~ You took the question right off of my fingertips

Gemini5er~ I sleep with a *teddy bear* too - it just so happens it purrs I think your father's heart pain is indicating how much he regrets leaving his estate in a mess for you, and your Mom I would acknowledge him in that, to set his heart at ease. Perhaps when the Uni-Verser has confirmation that his heart is at ease, things will become easier for you and your MOm

~Princess

posted December 09, 2001 04:48 PM         

VR, I wish I could take all the credit!

Princess, you took the words from my mouth. Virgo Rising, I anticipate hearing about YOUR next DREAM!

And princess is right about gemini's dream, too!

Gemini, tomorrow I will have something more for you.