posted December 17, 2016 12:52 PM            

I have from time to time sleep paralysis, first time when happened, it was a bit scary, but after it I started to be more and more aware of it. Like, soon before my body get paralyzed and I see something or nothing but just feel presence or touch, I know it's sleep paralysis and it will happen in a second, and then I'm immediately trying to open mouth and say something, cause that's how I wake myself up the fast way from it.

I'm not scared of it, even find experience interesting, but I want to try to turn sleep paralysis to lucid dream or astral projection. As you are aware of the fact that you're dreaming, you are one step from that moment when you can separate your astral body.

posted December 18, 2016 12:39 AM            

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Originally posted by MahaKali:
I'm not scared of it, even find experience interesting, but I want to try to turn sleep paralysis to lucid dream or astral projection. As you are aware of the fact that you're dreaming, you are one step from that moment when you can separate your astral body.

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If I were to try astral projection then I've heard of people who become paralyzed talking about a "humming" and "electrical vibration" that go through them (I've experienced this, but not during sleep paralysis), so if I were to attempt it at such a time, I'd try to listen for that humming or "feel the vibrations within, and around, the body" and try to increase the flow, perhaps even mentally shape them into a vessel or "astral body" to "transfer consciousness" over to.

One could look for "caves" to enter. Even if you don't astrally project, you might have a shamanic experience of some sort.

As for lucid dreaming...if I were to go for that then I'd set my alarm for the middle of the night, get up and walk around just a bit and go back to sleep. The key is having the logic part of the brain be at least somewhat awake because then you're most likely to realize you're asleep and can then gain a measure of control (sometimes complete control) over a dream...though for me, I usually just wake up.

I sometimes have what I believe are narcoleptic episodes. This is where I get so tired that all I can do is sleep (I think I could fall asleep standing up if I was forced to stand). My brain is way too tired to take an active hand in my dreams in these times, but dreams I have at these time tend to have a bit of "logic" to them (as the logic part of the brain isn't fully asleep) which can be fascinating rich with details. (It can also lead to sleep paralysis which is why I mention it.)

posted December 18, 2016 01:45 AM            

We have discussed sleep paralysis and OBEs in this forum quite a number of times. You could search this forum for past strings.

Here's one that could give you some ideas ...
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/003192.html

posted December 19, 2016 12:30 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
If I were to try astral projection then I've heard of people who become paralyzed talking about a "humming" and "electrical vibration" that go through them (I've experienced this, but not during sleep paralysis), so if I were to attempt it at such a time, I'd try to listen for that humming or "feel the vibrations within, and around, the body" and try to increase the flow, perhaps even mentally shape them into a vessel or "astral body" to "transfer consciousness" over to.

One could look for "caves" to enter. Even if you don't astrally project, you might have a shamanic experience of some sort.

As for lucid dreaming...if I were to go for that then I'd set my alarm for the middle of the night, get up and walk around just a bit and go back to sleep. The key is having the logic part of the brain be at least somewhat awake because then you're most likely to realize you're asleep and can then gain a measure of control (sometimes complete control) over a dream...though for me, I usually just wake up.

I sometimes have what I believe are narcoleptic episodes. This is where I get so tired that all I can do is sleep (I think I could fall asleep standing up if I was forced to stand). My brain is way too tired to take an active hand in my dreams in these times, but dreams I have at these time tend to have a bit of "logic" to them (as the logic part of the brain isn't fully asleep) which can be fascinating rich with details. (It can also lead to sleep paralysis which is why I mention it.)

They can even be poignant, like in one I was so busy that I lay down "just for a minute" and was instantly dreaming. I vaguely realized something was wrong, and at some point I thought to test if this was a dream by going to the fridge. The house was all dark (save the light in the fridge) with no one else in it save several cats I did not (seemingly) know. The fridge only had several plastic containers of juice drinks that I normally wouldn't drink (too syrupy) and after I couldn't taste it I realized it was just a dream. I tried to force myself back awake and failed, and I threw the drink as I knew I wouldn't have to clean it up (the cats went to lap it up). Giving up I sat on the kitchen floor when a cat crawled into my lap, and I realized the cat was a barn cat I was fond of when I was 13-14 (and had died many years ago), and I decided I could stay awhile. (I was unable to get lucid as I was just too mentally exhausted.)

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Thanks for answer! Yep, I tried lucid dreaming before, almost succeed, but wasn't very persistent and haven't practiced it every day, so results weren't great.

posted December 19, 2016 12:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Ra:
Hello MahaKali

We have discussed sleep paralysis and OBEs in this forum quite a number of times. You could search this forum for past strings.

Here's one that could give you some ideas ...
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/003192.html

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posted December 22, 2016 02:13 AM            

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Originally posted by MahaKali:
So, I'm not sure if this is right place to talk about it, if not, please move to the right forum.

I have from time to time sleep paralysis, first time when happened, it was a bit scary, but after it I started to be more and more aware of it. Like, soon before my body get paralyzed and I see something or nothing but just feel presence or touch, I know it's sleep paralysis and it will happen in a second, and then I'm immediately trying to open mouth and say something, cause that's how I wake myself up the fast way from it.

I'm not scared of it, even find experience interesting, but I want to try to turn sleep paralysis to lucid dream or astral projection. As you are aware of the fact that you're dreaming, you are one step from that moment when you can separate your astral body.

So I want to hear from others who have same experience with this, what they think, if they can do it, and on what way?

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Did you actually went from sleep paralysis to sleeping and dreaming? Because I only experienced sleep paralysis upon waking up. So I never thought of turning it into lucid dreaming or astral projection (anyway it didn't happen much). I don't astral project anymore, but I used to do it a lot as a teen. You need to try and imagine yourself getting out of the body. You don't need the sleeping paralysis in order to do that, but I guess you could use it somehow... I freaked out because I awoke before my body did, so I could not utter a word or exclaim... But I guess it's different when you fall asleep...?
I have sometimes lucid dreams, or half lucid dreams, but I never create them intentionally. I simply know I am dreaming and manipulating the scene as I like, or try to fly, etc.

posted December 22, 2016 07:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Did you actually went from sleep paralysis to sleeping and dreaming? Because I only experienced sleep paralysis upon waking up. So I never thought of turning it into lucid dreaming or astral projection (anyway it didn't happen much). I don't astral project anymore, but I used to do it a lot as a teen. You need to try and imagine yourself getting out of the body. You don't need the sleeping paralysis in order to do that, but I guess you could use it somehow... I freaked out because I awoke before my body did, so I could not utter a word or exclaim... But I guess it's different when you fall asleep...?
I have sometimes lucid dreams, or half lucid dreams, but I never create them intentionally. I simply know I am dreaming and manipulating the scene as I like, or try to fly, etc.

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Same is happening to me every time I experience sleep paralysis, I wake up myself, few seconds after I get paralyzed. But I read you can turn it to lucid dream or astral projection if you relax instead of forcing yourself to open eyes and and trying to move.

posted December 23, 2016 05:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
I did a lot of meditation back than, so I was used to deepen my awareness without falling asleep. You need to lie down peacefully, relax and imagine yourself slipping out of your body from the crown chakra. Do it continuously, and you'll see result. I guess you need to practice retaining consciousness in very relaxed situations, and meditating can be of help.

I don't know if sleep paralysis is such a good gate way to such experiences, because one is often quite alarmed at his/her inability to move.

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I definitely have to work on concentration (Dharana).

posted December 23, 2016 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
It would scare me.

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posted January 02, 2017 06:17 PM            

Could be a side-effect from medication you are taking.

posted January 03, 2017 11:17 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
You may wish to consult with your 'prescribing' physician?

Could be a side-effect from medication you are taking.

A few years ago, they discovered sleep-paralysis is a common unwanted side-effect of a certain class of drugs.

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posted January 04, 2017 09:09 PM            

Some cues of psychic attack:

- The symptoms seem to have a life of their own. For example, a sensation of paralysis may rise like a wave or a fluid through your body --- which does not make physiological sense, but which makes psychic sense. Or, pain may shift around in ways that don't make physiological sense. Or, it feels like you're fighting for your mind against something.

- Any pressure on your mind to let go and let something else take over.

- A preponderence to be worst at night. Generally getting worse and worse a few hours after sunset, and finally relenting near dawn.

- A preponderence to be worse while half-asleep.

- The symptoms include yucky-feeling energy. People who can feel energy may sense some nasty energy, or may see unusual darkness. If you can sense energy, you may notice it too, especially if the energy shifts and changes within you or around you. You may simply sense another "presence" there.

posted February 07, 2017 06:27 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
You may wish to consult with your 'prescribing' physician?

Could be a side-effect from medication you are taking.

A few years ago, they discovered sleep-paralysis is a common unwanted side-effect of a certain class of drugs.

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posted February 07, 2017 06:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Novabronte:
Sleep paralysis - especially close to 3am witching hour - is more likely a psychic attack from dark entities or discarnate souls...You said you have seen something or something touched you.

Some cues of psychic attack:

- The symptoms seem to have a life of their own. For example, a sensation of paralysis may rise like a wave or a fluid through your body --- which does not make physiological sense, but which makes psychic sense. Or, pain may shift around in ways that don't make physiological sense. Or, it feels like you're fighting for your mind against something.

- Any pressure on your mind to let go and let something else take over.

- A preponderence to be worst at night. Generally getting worse and worse a few hours after sunset, and finally relenting near dawn.

- A preponderence to be worse while half-asleep.

- The symptoms include yucky-feeling energy. People who can feel energy may sense some nasty energy, or may see unusual darkness. If you can sense energy, you may notice it too, especially if the energy shifts and changes within you or around you. You may simply sense another "presence" there.

Note on Astral projection:
It is not a matter of mind or will.
Astral projection requires a lot of energy in the body. The higher the energy and frequency, the easier it is to project.
So, drink a lot of clean spring water ( water is a carrier of electricity), and don't eat meat as it is dense low energy....
Remember, once you peek into that realm, you become visible to everything that dwells there.

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posted February 08, 2017 02:07 PM            

Be Spiritual. Be Practical. ... Our dreaming lives can eerily give BOTH kinds of parallel information to us. It's really amazing 'how' that works!

posted February 09, 2017 01:19 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Just to play it on the 'safe' side? ... You may wish to consult a physician (neurologist) about this. Make sure you don't have a tumor or seizure-type disorder.

Be Spiritual. Be Practical. ... Our dreaming lives can eerily give BOTH kinds of parallel information to us. It's really amazing 'how' that works!

Namaste

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posted February 09, 2017 03:41 AM            

I hadn't refreshed my reading of your original post.

I thought you were having ongoing repeating 'sleep' paralysis episodes. (Now I know that you were just borrowing the term, to say what it was 'like'?)

I had worked for a metaphysical organization. There were a handful of degreed researchers in one department who were interested in things like interpreting dreams, dream incubation, lucid dreaming, and the science of dreaming.

When it comes to DREAMING...
The body itself can create symbols within a dream which can indicate there's a problem with one of its systems, etc.

My reference to playing it 'safe' was about seeing a doctor for health of the 'physical' body, (not astral body).

I understand better that you are deliberately experimenting and trying to learn how to trigger or incubate altered states of consciousness (ASCs) in yourself? The paralysis was due to normal sensations of layers as the body immobilizes?

I hope you find the state you are trying to achieve.

posted February 09, 2017 11:22 AM            

I'm glad we're on the right page of understanding now.

Since your topic is more oriented to metaphysical-phenomenon, (rather than the night dreams and sleeping phenomenon), you might wish to start a thread, or shift THIS thread over to another forum here at LL.

You might find it more specific to your current needs. There may be people you can connect with who have more knowledge and experience with ASCs.

Be Blessed! Happy Journeys.