posted November 23, 2002 04:50 PM              

What I think: Bush really hasn't thought this thru or he wouldn't be so eager to commit to a war when he already has his fingers sticky from Israel and Afghanistan. He should resolve them first.

Also, I think its rather scary that people have started to think about End of the World prophecies again. According to a poll, 59% of the population thinks that the Revelation from the Bible will come true- the Anti-Christ, the Rapture or whatever, big wars between Good and Evil etc.( I find that number to be a LITTLE high, personally).

I guess humans are just inherently melodramatic.

posted November 23, 2002 10:57 PM              

My sister joined the Army last summer because they made her a deal she couldn't refuse (they would pay for her to get her doctorate). The week she gratuated basic, 9/11 happened. She is scheduled to go over March or before. If Iraq would fully comply - perhaps she would only be going to tension and not war.

posted November 24, 2002 01:48 PM            

The U.N. is a joke. The inspections are a joke. The United States already has proof that Iraq has the weapons, and when the U.N. announces that there is nothing to be found, the U.S. will present the evidence, uncovering the incompetency and duplicity that defines the U.N.

The U.N. will say, "we have found nothing."

The U.S. will say, "you did not look hard enough, what about these, and this, and this, and this, and those."

Hopefully, this will happen sooner rather than later, because there may not be a later if Iraq is allowed to advance it's programs much further.

What will everyone think when Israel is dessimated by an Iraqi nuclear warhead? And we have not even mentioned Iran, who could be 2 to 5 years from attaining it's own nuclear capability.

This is a very serious game, and I think the Bush administration has put FAR more thought into it than anyone realizes.

All we can do is try to maintain the highest thought for the highest good, and hope that there will not be too much bloodshed.

If only we could all simply ...

posted November 24, 2002 06:15 PM            

Second, I agree with you on the UN, and about our "benevolent space brothers and sisters", but what if "they" are behind the US/Bush administation? This may be the only way to prevent Israel from being destroyed. Has the US not always defended them? We are the only reason they exist. In God We Trust?

posted November 24, 2002 06:24 PM              

I doubt Hussein will use his weapons unless we attack him- he's not pointlessly agressive, just power-hungry and evil.

shamrock227, I hope your sister is kept safe from harm. War is undertaken way too lightly nowadays, because "big power" soldiers hardly ever get hurt. That could change.

posted November 24, 2002 08:59 PM              

Due to my religious faith I could never support any war. For any reason . Against anybody or any country.

But there's something that I cannot realize...Are we talking about a war against terrorism , or against Sadam ?
On the practical side, the war against the terrorism is an Utopia. Terrorists don't have fixed address. You can destroy a whole country and don't kill one single terrorist.

Who will die meantime, will be the innocent ones, those that live in that place for pure impossibility of living in any other.

Sadam Hussein. Who is this man? A crazy dictator that lives in a country where each man adult uses a mustache like his.Ok, he is evil but if U.S. removes Sadam of circulation, who will replace him ?
Probably some other fanatic that in a few years will be attacking the neighboring countries,and we will see this movie again...

We cannot forget that Sadam's regime was supported by U.S for a long time. U.S. gave weapons to Iraq believing that they would be capable of removes the ayatollahs' government in Iran.
Which was the result of that ? The worst.

Now, is Sadam the true problem of U.S. ? Of course not .

I agree with Queen of Sheeba "I doubt Hussein will use his weapons unless we attack him- he's not pointlessly agressive, just power-hungry and evil."

The real problem is Saudi Arabia, from where 16 of the 19 terrorists that committed the attacks came. From where Osama came and according to the political analysts, it is from there that comes most of the money to finance terrorist actions.

In my opinion this war is just a door for Saudi Arabia...

But that is politicizes, and politics made me disgust. The more I known about political subjects, the more I realize how lower the human being can go.

When I see Vladmir Putchin supporting this attack against Iraq because he received the guarantee to continue demolishing Chechnya, I want to move from this planet.

Ok, I'm ready...

posted November 24, 2002 09:14 PM              

Thanks. Great links. Specially the last one

posted November 24, 2002 09:22 PM              

I can't tell you what should be done. Ousting or killing Saddam or bin Laden is like killing weeds...another will pop up in his place. How do you convince people with such ingrained beliefs of violence and terror that love and peace are better? I can't even get my dog to stop eating the toilet paper.

I wonder what made them embrace that way of life, what led up to it, who they were in their past lives. Is it karma? Free will?
This all gets very confusing trying to put it together.

posted November 24, 2002 09:49 PM              

I make mine your words

Ousting or killing Saddam or bin Laden is like killing weeds...another will pop up in his place. How do you convince people with such ingrained beliefs of violence and terror that love and peace are better?

I can't even get my dog to stop eating the toilet paper.

Dear Carlo

Again,thanks for the links...about Putin,I'll have to disagree
This man will be remember as the one who demolished Chechnya.That's all .
I have to tell you that I don't have stomach to see what he is doing there.It is a massacre and a true murder in mass...

posted November 25, 2002 10:27 PM            

You say "Officer arrest this man, he is going to kill me".

The cops says "Well, sir or madam, I agree that the gun is pointed at you and I agree that this man seems evil, but I have not seen the bullet leave the gun and hit you. Once I see evidence that the gun has fired a shot aimed at you, then I will arrest this man".

By then you are dead.

I am not a war-monger, but I do know that a man as twisted as Saddamn is willing to kill you, me, and everyone else without even batting an eyelash. He has already killed his own people and tested bio and chemical agents on people he hates. Do you really think that this is a man that won't try to hurt us? He thinks we are the great satan, the evil empire that needs to be destroyed.

We worry about the financial and health repercussions of a war, but what about the consequences we will all suffer when this idiot unleashes a massive biological weapon on everyone?

We apply the same logic to criminals when we say "Oh, lets give them a chance to be reintroduced to society" ( I am not talking about the petty criminals, but the serious drug dealers, rapists and murderers). The rate of recidivism in this country is insane. These idiots get out and they DO IT AGAIN.

War sucks, but I am not willing to let one retarded ego-maniac, who should be sharing a hell-cell with Hitler, have his way by funding terrorism and killing innocent people.

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"Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul in this world--and never will."

posted November 26, 2002 11:46 AM            

So how is everything? Did you enjoy Frida? What about Harry Potter? I still need to get my butt out there and watch those movies.

Things are going well on this end. It's supposed to snow tomorrow, but this is Maryland and our weather people are always off...LOL

So is everyone ready for Turkey Day (What do vegetarians call it? Would it be Tofu-day?)

Okay, gotta run. I am still in a fiesty mood. Must be Mars......or the moon...or lack of sex...LOL just kidding.

Kisses,

Shawnee

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"Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul in this world--and never will."

posted November 26, 2002 02:43 PM              

It is true that he used chemical weapons in the Kurds, it is also true that he invaded Kuwait and nobody denies that this man is capable of atrocities against his neighbors and also against his own people. But I don't remember that he has made any threat to U. S.
I am not saying that he didn't , I just don't remember...

Sadam can be insane but he is not crazy. The only thing that the tyrant intends is to govern with iron's hand his people and to constitute a type of monarchy in Iraq, passing the succession for his "monster" son.

Therefore, to attack Iraq before Sadam attacks U.S. would be as inverting the order of the facts. At least , this is how I see.

So,if the man has nothing to do with 9/11, I return to my initial question in my first post : Which is exactly the relationship between war against terror and war against Iraq ?

For me this war has two goals . One is Petroleum and the other "Saudi Arabia" , but I'm a "No Logo" person, that's why I'm ready to change my mind ...always

Jakie

posted November 26, 2002 02:47 PM              

Iraq announced last september that Russian companies won auctions for projects of long period for oil facilities and structure evaluated in about 40 billion dollars.

Also, there's the fear that with U.S. taking care of the oil's wells of Iraq, the price of the barrel will be a monopoly, and of course,this is not a good deal for Russia .

But the negotiations proceed...