posted March 19, 2003 01:08 PM              

LL, you said:

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Personally I think I would fight best for my country on the world stage as a diplomat...

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posted March 20, 2003 02:52 AM              

1scorp, I wasn’t in anyway condemning your viewpoint either you said "...there is always 2 sides to every discussion. I can listen to both sides and yet maintain my own opinion... just as you are entitled to do the same" Couldn’t have said it better myself... believe me I know about two sides...

Alena, its not the fact that people have differing views which makes me think twice about posting and speaking my mind... I don’t like conflict, I don’t like being attacked, that’s just who I am

I celebrate our diversity, individuality and difference of opinion... but lets try to be mindful of others feelings as well?

posted March 20, 2003 02:57 AM              

(Crack up? Oh man is that pure show of Aussie Colloquialism or what? Next i will be saying kerfuffal)

posted March 20, 2003 04:48 AM              

Me, in no particular new world order, I'm for:
Courage
Justice
Intelligence
Compassion
Freedom
Honesty
Love
Joy
Peace

and the kind of bang'n'holler laughter so perfectly pictured in Alena's post!!

posted March 20, 2003 08:51 AM              

Also, please post... If I "get under your skin" just let me know. I can handle it.

posted March 20, 2003 06:51 PM              

Alena, oh! i worry that you will think that i am saying things to you personally. No not at all... i was just responding to what you said about posting what i feel... i didnt mean that you were personally attacking me at all! And i know from past posts on the board that you really do want to hear people opinions... and like i said to you before... i think that is completely honourable. You'll hunt me down!? oh gosh! Maybe i should stay... to tell you the truth my love for a good debate is making it difficult for me to stay away... and though i may not agree with everyone here i honestly think that this place is full of marvelous people. I am quite impressed by everyones ability to debate there opinions, round of applause to you all *clap clap clap* (i cant see a clappy smilie guy damit!)

posted March 21, 2003 06:43 PM              

Fukiyama (plagiarizer of Hegel), "It is the end of history, The battle of the ideologies is over. Liberal Democracy has won over communism(Cold War) & fascism(WWII)"

Nations, being Asian, Western or Eastern European, or North or South American (& even Africa once they stabilize) have all started to liberalize their economies & governments in hopes of interconnecting the world & globalizing, which would hopefully raise the bar for standard of living in all third world countries (still theory & still debatable, but so far the theory is working).

Now Rumsfield, probably the staunchest conservative in the government has expressed this ideal since the 80s to liberalize gov'ts when the opportunity presents itself.

Right now they are seeing an opportunity to have this dream realized & possibility the reverse of the "domino theory" of the Cold War will occur. Instead of one democratic gov't falling causing more to fall, one more liberal democratic government rises & then more follow.

Liberalization includes the advocation of a state governed by the people, a gov't elected by the people, & an economy of free trade without government actors that exploit their country's natural resources for their own gain. Essentially liberalize control over economy which spreads the wealth of a country's natural resources among the people.

What Rumsfield, Bush, & the Western gov'ts are genuinely attempted to do is integrate the world as one liberlized democracy & economy where all countries are interconnected & eventually the sovereignty of the "nation-state" (even the USA) yields the a higher int'l authority following the rules of economic prosperity for example: (Which I'll post later)

Destruction of Islamic fundamentalists, War on terrorism, search for oil, disarmament of Iraq, are all faulty reasons to advocate the one greater ideal, that has quite a vision for the future. But one of positivity & a collective prosperity for the world.

I'm sure there are a million & a half arguments to demonize the US & our gov'ts & their political actors which would make this idea seem futile.

But I just wanted to present this vision of the future so people may at least know of it & consider it.

I mean THERE IS a h*e*ll of a lot the governments of the world do not tell the people of the world what their true goals are, they are REALLY EDUCATED & STUDIED in these matters & it wouldn't be too bad to...
just for a moment...
Consider maybe they do have a plan for the future & these pithy events are simply stepping stones to its realization???