posted March 31, 2005 12:22 PM            

Maybe they should move to Iraq were they have all the control and they can kill all the innocent men, women and children they want and sell us the oil too as well!

Just remember, Terri was just one woman, don't think that they would do that for anybody else with unfair trials or tribulations against them in anytime in the future!

posted March 31, 2005 12:34 PM            

When the courts decree that others are similarly to be put to death because they have genetic flaws, are infirm, too old, are a drain on state or federal resources, mentally incompetent or any other standard the courts wish to impose...remember, it started today.

To all those in America who are too intellectually challenged to understand what happened today and like sheep accept the fantasy that the courts are the last word on the law or that this is a political issue, good luck.

The Declaration of Independence:
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
.....We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Fifth Amendment - Rights of Persons
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment XIVSection 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

CONSTITUTION
OF THE
STATE OF FLORIDA
SECTION 2. Basic rights.--
All natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law and have inalienable rights, among which are the right to enjoy and defend life and liberty, to pursue happiness, to be rewarded for industry, and to acquire, possess and protect property; except that the ownership, inheritance, disposition and possession of real property by aliens ineligible for citizenship may be regulated or prohibited by law. No person shall be deprived of any right because of race, religion, national origin, or physical disability.

posted March 31, 2005 08:48 PM            

And now, I find you're too lazy to go to your search window and type in Terri Schiavo, morphine. If you had, you would have found numerous stories...including at least one from your favorite, The Clinton News Network.

If you were keeping up, you would know that Terri Schiavo's so called husband has barred any pictures, any video and any records of her care from getting out to the public...by the press or from any other source he can control.

Of course, the moans, grimacing and tensing of the arms by Terri Schiavo couldn't be from the pain of starvation and dehydration...now could it Ozone. After all, she can't feel pain...so say all those in favor of killing her by the torture of dehydration and starvation.

Morphine given
"Bob Schindler on Monday commented about the facility she is in -- Hospice House Woodside -- saying, "I have a grave concern that they'll expedite the process to kill her with an overdose of morphine."
That triggered a response from the hospice, which has generally refused any comment on the case.
"We are not going to do anything to hasten or postpone natural death," said spokesman Mike Bell. "We are trying to provide comfort to the patient as well as the family."
Felos said morphine had been administered twice through a suppository since March 18 at what he said the hospice staff told him that is the "lowest possible dose." http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/28/schiavo/

"The second morphine injection was administered in response to Terri's "slight moans, grimacing and tensing of the arms," Felos told reporters on Monday.

Terri's father, Robert Schindler, however, expressed concern over the use of the powerful sedative."I have a grave concern that they'll expedite the process to kill her with an overdose of morphine," he complained at a Monday press conference. Doctors say that morphine can depress respiration, which could prompt Terri's lungs to shut down early." http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/3/29/94845.shtml

posted March 31, 2005 09:54 PM            

So what is your point about Terri getting morphine, do you really think that the Federal, State and Supreme courts are going to change they're minds all of a sudden and strike down a court order just to appease the Republican Congress or the Bush Family by prolonging the inevitable?

Like I've said before, this has been a attempt to hurt the legal system in order to provide no fair trials for the rest of Americans for they're protection and just capture anyone that is thought to be maybe be a "terrorist"(or anything of that nature) without being proven so via to appease the Christain-Right for stronger support! Kind of like performing witch hunts for those that are not in close league with the Bible bangers in our country and deport them into another country instead to be torture and/or killed for the name of Jesus!

posted March 31, 2005 10:43 PM              

I always knew you were a good ole boy!

posted March 31, 2005 10:43 PM            

Terri Schiavo....we have been assured by all the minions of the death culture...was brain dead and therefore couldn't feel any pain.

These same people have also assured us that dying by starvation and dehydration is painless anyway...produces a state of euphoria, don't you know. So they all say.

So Ozone, what the hell was a doctor doing administering morphine to a brain dead woman who was not capable of feeling pain..or so they said. Morphine IS a heavy duty pain killer. It's also a killer in itself when administered to a person with low vital signs.

Take my advice Ozone and don't ever come to Florida. We have judges down here who don't give a damn about the law or the facts. I feel pretty certain they would find some reason to target you...if they ever read anything you've said here.

Bad boy, bad boy
whatcha gonna do,
whatcha gonna do,
when they come for you?

posted March 31, 2005 11:55 PM            

That triggered a response from the hospice, which has generally refused any comment on the case.

"We are not going to do anything to hasten or postpone natural death," said spokesman Mike Bell. "We are trying to provide comfort to the patient as well as the family."

Felos said morphine had been administered twice through a suppository since March 18 at what he said the hospice staff told him that is the "lowest possible dose."

Felos also countered accusations that a brain scan has never been performed on Terri Schiavo.

He said CAT scans of her brain were introduced in trials in 2000 and 2002, showing that her cerebral cortex was "gone."

Felos said Michael Schiavo decided to come forward with the autopsy plans for Terri Schiavo after "opponents to carrying out her wishes" suggested Michael Schiavo had an ulterior motive in his plans to cremate his wife."

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Well it's a shame that Bush signed into law against frivolous lawsuits against doctors, just like he sign the right-to-die law as governor!

But you are analizing this too deeply, whether or not they gave her morphine, she was to die anyway, in spite of what you say! Maybe it was more of her not going bodily out of control and just to more or less slip into a peaceful passing away!

posted April 01, 2005 02:01 PM            

Why Jwhop bothers with you is beyond me, however it is a testament to his patience.

posted April 01, 2005 02:51 PM            

jwhop
Thanks for tirelessly pointing out fact by fact, point by point, the things that actually mattered in this case ... even though they were completley ignored and/or brushed aside by the courts and apparantly completely unknown to a huge chunk of our citizens. I guess what we don't know really can hurt us ... who can fight for rights they're unaware of and unwilling to learn about when you can just go on your personal feelings about anything? When did opinions begin to override facts?

posted April 01, 2005 10:59 PM            

What was looked at by other courts were procedural issues.

I know this is not well understood...I know you understand it Eleanore because I've read everything you posted on the subject, but a precedent was established by the Schiavo case.

One state judge stepped over the line and overruled a whole body of law, including the laws covering the basic responsibility of government to protect the lives of citizens and was upheld by the state Appellate Court, the state Supreme Court, the Federal District Court, the Federal Appellate Court and the US Supreme Court which refused to hear the appeal.

Whoever and wherever you are in America, your government just sent you a message but I don't think most people heard what they said.

posted April 02, 2005 05:36 PM            

Saturday, April 2, 2005 10:38 a.m. EST
Agency Had 89 Abuse Reports on Schiavo

Florida's Department of Children and Families had received nearly 90 allegations that Michael Schiavo had abused his wife in recent years - but a Florida judge ruled yesterday that DCF summaries of those allegations must remain secret.

The St. Petersburg Times and the Tampa Tribune had filed suit for the release of the abuse summaries, which covered 89 reports - the Times said Friday.

But state Judge George Greer ruled Friday the records belong to DCF, and although Terri Schiavo's husband can have access to the abuse files, the records cannot be made public, The Associated Press reported.
During a hearing Thursday, just hours after Terri Schiavo died, DCF attorney Jennifer Lima-Smith asked Greer to keep its records sealed, saying, "It's time to end this case."

Just a few weeks ago, however, the agency was pressing for a full-blown abuse probe.

In the petition filed with Greer's court in early March, the DCF asked him not to remove Schiavo's feeding tube until the agency could investigate 34 pages of materials documenting allegations of abuse, the Orlando Sentinel reported at the time.

The DCF petition said the materials were sent to its abuse hotline on Feb. 18 and Feb. 21, and by law, the agency had to conduct an investigation.

"The allegations in the abuse reports go to the heart of whether abuse, neglect and/or exploitation has been perpetrated by the guardian [Michael Schiavo]," the DCF's 10-page petition said, according to the Sentinel.

The allegations were based partly on bone scans showing Terri Schiavo suffered fractures, as well as statements she made to family and friends that she was unhappy in her marriage, the AP reported Friday.

Responding to allegations of abuse in 1992, Michael Schiavo told the Tampa Tribune: "I've never, ever struck a woman, especially my wife. I was raised better than that."

posted April 04, 2005 11:25 AM            

So whatever Isis!

But I like to point out that I too also know what all this means. It means that the neo-cons are not going to get they're way like they did in the last few years and they're not going to break the judical system in order to convict just anybody through lobbyism or make up a new system in order to escape conviction for those who are rich enough by paying outstanding fines by already being apart of some judical interest and writing it off as an "already payment" of corporate funding to bribe officals with!

Where just anybody like me can be convicted for not walking the conservative straight line and still have the fear of being accused as some kind of terrorist or something!

Anything for the Neo Nazi-Cons to do to destroy this country in order to have they're New World Order and they've been trying really, really hard into doing that!