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Rainbow~
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posted March 25, 2006 12:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cleveland On 911 --
Says Former Cleveland Mayor

Cincinnati WCPO TV Cover-Ups
Why Account Removed From Web Site

By Greg Szymanski
11-11-5

State sponsored U.S. media ignores story, leaving 'internet hounds' to smell out the truth behind what really happened to the passengers on the doomed flights.

On the morning of 9/11 a little known Cincinnati television station ran a story saying Flight 93 landed at Cleveland International Airport instead of crashing in Pennsylvania as claimed in the official government story.

Reporters at WCPO Channel 9 quoted then Cleveland Mayor Michael R. White as saying "a Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing due to a bomb threat," the airplane landing safely, moved to a secure location and evacuated.

The early morning report went on to say United Airlines verified the plane as Flight 93, but was also deeply concerned about another jetliner in the vicinity, Flight 175, flying from Boston to Los Angeles.

Also included in the little known news report was a comment from United CEO, James Goodwin, who said, "The thoughts of everyone at United are with the passengers and crew of these flights. Our prayers are also with everyone on the ground who may have been involved. United Airlines is working with all the relevant authorities, including the FBI, to obtain further information on these flights."

Former Mayor White, as well as United and WCPO, could not be reached for comment, but the evidence still remains, even though it was suspiciously removed from the television's web site in June 2004 in and around the time of the 9/11 Commission hearings.

With the evidence trail getting colder and colder, the obvious still must be asked: if Flight 175 was slamming into the South Tower and Flight 93 was downed over Pennsylvania like the government contends, why was Mayor White saying both planes were in or in the vicinity of Cleveland?

The answer to this question remains a mystery four years later since the 9/11 Commission or the FBI never thoroughly investigated the news report or former Mayor White's statement.

More can be found here'\
http://www.rense.com/general68/says.htm

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posted March 25, 2006 12:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for those who want "scientific" evidence..

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Prominent Physics Professor Refutes “Official” 9/11 Story

November 11, 2005

Brigham Young University reported to the Deseret Morning News and later revealed on the Alex Jones Radio Show that through imperical research he has come to discover that the World Trade Center towers could not have possibly collapsed due to the impact of the jets that hit the buildings on September 11th. While this news may not seem particularly shocking to many in the 9-11 Truth Movement, Jones’ testimony is representative of the growing list of many prominent Americans that have gone public in recent time exposing the systematic cover-up of 9-11.

According to Professor Jones, all of the laws of science and mathematics point directly to the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center and not to fire bringing down the three towers.

Through his intensive and methodical research, Jones has come to realize that the speed and symmetry of the collapse of the WTC buildings prove that the so-called official story must be false. He points to venting or squibs (smoke puffs) present around the collapsing structures as being direct indicators of the use of pre-positioned explosives. He also noted that the way that NASA infrared satellites and aircraft were able to take photos of the burning wreckage and molten steel for weeks was indicative of a massive use of thermite in the structure.

For Jones, the real problem with the official line on 9/11 is that it relies on wrong-headed science that starts with a conclusion and seeks out evidence that supports that theory to the exclusion of all others in order to cover up what really happened on September 11th. FEMA, the 9/11 Commission, and even the National Institute of Standards and Technology had all started with the supposition that what caused the WTC collapses was the impact of the jets and their exploding fuel and ignored any and all evidence to the contrary even though their findings were “highly unlikely.”

The Deseret Morning News article reports Jones’ major points of concern:

These observations were not analyzed by FEMA, NIST nor the 9/11 Commission, he says.

These observations were not analyzed by FEMA, NIST nor the 9/11 Commission, he says.

• With non-explosive-caused collapse there would typically be a piling up of shattering concrete. But most of the material in the towers was converted to flour-like powder while the buildings were falling, he says. "How can we understand this strange behavior, without explosives? Remarkable, amazing — and demanding scrutiny since the U.S. government-funded reports failed to analyze this phenomenon."

• Steel supports were "partly evaporated," but it would require temperatures near 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit to evaporate steel — and neither office materials nor diesel fuel can generate temperatures that hot. Fires caused by jet fuel from the hijacked planes lasted at most a few minutes, and office material fires would burn out within about 20 minutes in any given location, he says.

• Molten metal found in the debris of the World Trade Center may have been the result of a high-temperature reaction of a commonly used explosive such as thermite, he says. Buildings not felled by explosives "have insufficient directed energy to result in melting of large quantities of metal," Jones says.

• Multiple loud explosions in rapid sequence were reported by numerous observers in and near the towers, and these explosions occurred far below the region where the planes struck, he says.

No third party was ever called on to examine ground zero and Jones lamented the government’s decision to so quickly ban any investigation of the crime scene and to haul all of the wreckage away to China before it could be examined by any third party investigators. Many like Jones are now coming forward with skepticism this such as fire engineering which went public that the WTC was a crime scene and shouldn’t have been hauled away and that fire could not possibly make towers collapse.

He also described the findings of Underwriter’s Lab and Kevin Ryan who used complex models in the testing of the collapse and revealed that it was impossible for the jet-fuel and fire alone to cause any of the three buildings to collapse

Now Jones, who is head of research in fusion and solar energy at BYU, is calling for an independent, scientific investigation that would focus on the physics of the WTC collapse and not be guided by political constraints and efforts to limit the findings to the “official story” that the buildings collapsed because a hijacked plane was crashed into them.

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Rainbow..I love your determination..and to put that in the right direction..would be a wonderful energy..

I am not saying that the Government hasn't done anything wrong..but in this particular instance here..with 9/11..you are off course. ...

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Just wanted to share with you, another opinion

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Charlie Sheen - A True
American Patriot

By Ted Lang
3-24-6


If there was ever any doubt as to what it is that really made America the greatest nation on Earth that ever existed, let all that uncertainty be dispelled by the actions of Hollywood actor and Television star, Charlie Sheen. Indeed, what a guy! Our nation's greatness is founded upon the legal pedestal we continually attempt to sustain that puts the individual and his or her freedom above all else in this land, the very freedom now being savagely assaulted by the Bush regime and America's traitors in Congress.

Before we can even begin to assess the staggering achievement and stature of this honest, dedicated and courageous American patriot, we need to put in place a foundation of understanding to stave off the upcoming avalanche of attacks, smears, insults and caterwauling this man is going to be hit with by all the mindless dimwits this nation shelters. He will be stoned and repulsed by Bush blab radio fascists, the Zionist MSM as well as AM entities, Fox News and Zionist Hollywood, even as Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government will be with its recent release of an equally monumental patriotic effort in the form of a much-needed report: "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy."

Sorry, but this is again needed! I've been a dues-paying member of the Republican Party, and started voting in presidential elections since 1964. Back then, I believed in and trusted then-Republican Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona. I voted for Nixon and "re-elected the president." When he was exposed in the Watergate matter, I stopped voting altogether for 14 years; so no, I never voted for Ronnie Reagan. But I did vote for George Bush in 2000: what a break from the communist direction our nation was going in, and what a chance to get America back on track. This all needs to be said so that what I offer isn't dismissed as the left-wing rant of just a "liberal" or a "communist." I was a Republican for 38 years, and am an Independent today with a libertarian, not Libertarian, philosophy. That puts me on the same page with Thomas Jefferson, my favorite American Patriot, and Sam Adams and Patrick Henry.

These preliminaries now out of the way, I offer that I do not engage in the label fables of American politics today, or in the blame-game bilge of blab radio and Fox TV. Democrat versus Republican, liberal against conservative, libertarian versus Christian fundamentalist constitutionalist; these mean absolutely nothing to me. It should mean nothing to anyone else in America, but how else are the denizens of blab radio and Fox News going to make a living?

As already alluded to, what made this nation great was the penchant for self-sufficiency displayed by each man and woman who built this great country. It was a self-sufficiency fostered by independent thought and action, creativity and industry. And it was a full-speed-ahead independence and rugged individualism derived not as a result of government and politics, but rather in spite of these. Individual Americans built America, not politicians and their political parties.

As I have offered previously: "Government is governed by politics, the practice by which non-contributory, non-producing members of society fool the citizens into believing that what they, the politicians, contribute, is more than just a meaningless void. Politics fills that void.

and is best described as the total absence of honesty, integrity, creativity and hard work, which will never result in a meaningful or useful product or service. Liberty is defined, therefore, as either the total control and restraint the people put upon government and politics, or the resultant enjoyment of everything in God's creation."

I have also pointed out that, "Modern day American politicians have ruined America's greatness. Through damaging political arrangements with the politicians of other competing nations, politicians here have created income tax structures and environmental restraints motivating large corporations to move jobs and plants outside of America and overseas where lower labor costs, less environmental restrictions, and lower taxes provide their political corporate financial supporters tax, labor and regulatory advantages. This produces more profits for the ruling corporate profiteers and more payoffs [campaign contributions] for American politicians. Everybody makes out, except America and the American people."

Now let's just look at two single, solitary American individuals: a man and a woman. Let's look at these as individuals first, as we of course should, and then as patriots, keeping in mind that all patriots start out as individuals. We all start out as individuals, but when life's challenges make things tough for all, the tough break ranks from the herd and go it alone. "Patriot" is by definition a solitary person, and can be and usually is a lonely vigil and a frightening forced isolation.

When the politicians' armies march and goose-step and present their flash and blur of glittering buttons, medals, shining polished boots and cap visors, and with their flashing of weapons of death, and with flags waving and martial brass blaring, and with drums stuttering and booming their deadly rhythms, who can really see through all that din and dither of fictionalized glory and pomp but a true patriot?

Are patriots loners? Think of the artistic rendering of a "Minuteman," a lone individual with his rifle; think of Paul Revere; think of George Washington seeking solace and on knee bended and head bowed seeking strength and direction from the Almighty; think of that man standing in front of a tank in Tiananmen Square.

Think of Cindy Sheehan, who gave the ultimate a mother can give. Think of how she was smeared, belittled and vilified by Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh. Think of her during last summer and in that heat when she took up residence in a roadside ditch to bring national focus on Bush's unnecessary war in Iraq that took her son. Sure, others were there, but they were there only because she was. Think of her arrest and constant manhandling by Bush's localized Gestapo and SS. Think of her as she lay in a fetal position, hands cuffed behind her, being kicked and beaten by New York's "Finest," America's worst.

Then there's Charlie. Just like the courage and lone wolf rugged individualism displayed by Mel Gibson in defying Jewish Hollywood that whined and protested his production of "The Passion of the Christ," Zionist Hollywood not only refused to distribute his movie, they tried everything to suppress it. He has been clearly isolated by the Hollywood machine.

And now its Charlie's turn. Just like former NFL defensive back and football star Pat Tillman, he's putting everything on the line for his beliefs. And like Tillman, he will pay. He will pay, as every patriot that ever walked the land will pay, for this too is a defining characteristic of a patriot. It is called "risk." The mainstream media, owned controlled and lorded over by Hollywood, the latter firmly entrenched in their support of Israel and therefore firmly behind the Bush regime's loyalty and obeisance to Israel, controls Sheen's wealth and future. The risk he is taking should never be underestimated.

As I have offered very recently, "If [9-11] was a foul-up, a major unbelievable screw-up of a drill, and one that failed to have an emergency back-up fail-safe system, what would be the real harm in the American people knowing that? The American people are very forgiving, but are becomingly increasingly astute as concerns the failings and bumbling of their government. In fact, their awareness of the unbelievable range of ever-expanding lies of the Bush regime is rapidly increasing and confirmed by Bush's falling poll numbers. The crime machine is redlining in terms of an urgency that desperately needs immediate national action. And as offered previously, this action needs to come from a sector other than corrupt American politics or government."

That sector has presented itself in Charlie Sheen. How many more times must Cindy Sheehan be beaten and tortured by Bush's goons? Sure, she's getting attention, but the power of a Hollywood star will present itself as a real threat to the organized gangsters and criminals in our government who perpetrated 9-11. And Charlie's no dummy; he has not even come close to saying that 9-11 was an inside job. But then again, he's entitled to his opinion and should continue his approach, which is merely to bring focus on that which the Bush criminals want US so desperately to ignore.

And I, of course, am entitled to my opinion, which says 9-11 was indeed an inside job, and perpetrated by the greatest and most despicable international gangsters and mass-murderers that have ever taken over any nation in all of Mankind's torrid history.


Ted Lang is a political analyst and freelance writer.


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Rainbow~
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posted March 25, 2006 01:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
from Lotus.....

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Rainbow..I love your determination..and to put that in the right direction..would be a wonderful energy..

Lotus, although you can't see it NOW, please know that I AM putting my determination in what I feel is the right direction.

I think people have been sticking their heads in the sand for too long, and unlesss the pull their heads out soon....it's going to be TOO LATE!

Hitler had his people mesmorized too....

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lotusheartone
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posted March 25, 2006 01:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainbow..I use to belive this..I don't anymore..I'm not worried about it..the truth will come out. ...

it's all good to me..disruption..brings change..and change is necessary. ...

Ggodnight..sleep tight..don't let the buttheads..bite..hehe

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Rainbow~
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posted March 25, 2006 01:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nite, nite, Lotus...

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Rainbow~
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posted March 25, 2006 09:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotus....

I don't know if you're familiar with little Mattie Stepanek, the brilliant, wonderful, wise, and uniquely special child who was on a quest for peace, or not.....but......


......I fell in love with him the first time I saw him on Larry Kings's show about three years ago......he was a darling and his wonderfu little soul reached right out thru the TV screen and grabbed my heart....he was only 11 and had been writing poety since he was three years old.

Sadly, Mattie passed away not long ago, having been born with with a rare and fatal neuromuscular disease...

One of his dreams was to meet former president Jimmy Carter, so they could talk about peace together.....Jimmy heard about it, and he and Jimmy became very close friends before Mattie died.

Mattie left some beautiful poetry behind....and I thought you might enjoy one of his poems...

This is for you....

BELIEVING IN SOMEDAY

Maybe,
Someday,
We will all join hands
And live together...
Helping each other,
Loving each other.
Maybe,
Someday,
We will all make the world
A much better place...
And be like a gigantic,
Smoothly rushing river of peace -
A loving circle that nothing can break.
Maybe,
Someday,
We may start with just one person,
And one permanent peace agreement
Within one's self, within one's world.
Personal peace can then spread
Within and between the families,
Then within and between communities,
And then within and around the whole world.
Maybe,
Someday,
We can become
As close to perfect
As anything and anyone can get.
Let us each join our own Heartsong
With this old song of the heart and believe...
"Let there be peace on earth,
And let it begin with me."

- Mattie Stepanek - August 20, 2000

Love,
Rainbow


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Petron
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posted March 25, 2006 09:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that was beautiful rainbow~...thanks for posting it....

and thank you mattie....

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lotusheartone
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posted March 25, 2006 09:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks Rainbow..yes..I am very aware of Mattie..followed his story..what an amazing spirit. ...

A most Wonderful pOem Mattie. ...

Sending ALL.. Lots of Love..

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With an event as far reaching as 9-11, we would be fools to think that the public has been told the whole story. History shows that with events like these, the gov't always reveals at little as possible.

I also find it funny that the same people who are always distrustful of big government are the same ones who buy the official story in situations like this, hook line and sinker without question.

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Nothing is true until it has been officially denied by the Government.

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News Flash: The Dam is Breaking on the 9/11 Cover-Up

More Stars Go Public with Demands for 9/11 Investigation, Others to Follow

March 28, 2006

Award winning actor, director, producer, and pioneering anti-Iraq war activist Ed Asner is scheduled to appear live on the CNN Headline News program Showbiz Tonight (6pm CST). Asner is reportedly going on to support Charlie Sheen's bold and brave stance calling for a real investigation of the events on September 11th, 2001 as well as to raise his own questions.

Also on Showbiz Tonight on March 27, actress Sharon Stone defended Sheen and his First Amendment right to speak out saying that he is brave and that it is important to confront authority.

Asner and Sheen are just two more of many celebrities who have already come forward to question the official story of what happened on 9/11.Actor James Woods began questioning the official fable in the first weeks right after 9/11. X-Files and Lone Gunmen star Dean Haglund has already gone public on the Alex Jones Show (December 18, 2004) questioning the official story. Actor Ed Bagley, Jr. hosted a 9/11 Truth Symposium in New York City several months ago.

And we have recently confirmed that one of the world's most popular and beloved musicians is awake to the truth about 9/11 and in the very near future may be going public.

Many more major stars who are considering going public have contacted us in recent days.

The dam is finally breaking. Former Delta Force Commander Eric Hanney has spoken out in the press about the "War on Terrorism" being bogus and how there is no real threat to the United States. The 9/11 Truth Movemet has reached critical mass and is now exploding. The perpitrators of 9/11 have got to be concerned as more and more people across the globe wake up to the 9/11 hoax.

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I don't get this...what did the prosecutors illegally do to almost get the death penalty thrown out of the window. And why is Moussaoui testifying against himself?

Moussaoui Wanted to Testify Vs. Himself

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They coached witnesses (or, more to the point, someone affiliated with them coached witnesses) after the judge explicitly forbade such action.

Re: M: I honestly think that he wants the death penalty, to be a martyr at the hands of America. I was actually quite hopeful that the death penalty case would be thrown out - denying him his wish seems fitting.

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posted March 29, 2006 09:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who knows with all that evil reptilian energy in the White House.

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Waleed Al Shehri left the US a year ago, he says

Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well.

The identities of four of the 19 suspects accused of having carried out the attacks are now in doubt.

Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri was one of five men that the FBI said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Centre on 11 September.

His photograph was released, and has since appeared in newspapers and on television around the world.

Hijacking suspects
Flight 175: Marwan Al-Shehhi, Fayez Ahmed, Mohald Alshehri, Hamza Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi

Flight 11: Waleed M Alshehri, Wail Alshehri, Mohamed Atta, Abdulaziz Alomari and Satam Al Suqami

Flight 77: Khalid Al-Midhar, Majed Moqed, Nawaq Alhamzi, Salem Alhamzi and Hani Hanjour

Flight 93: Ahmed Alhaznawi, Ahmed Alnami, Ziad Jarrahi and Saeed Alghamdi

Now he is protesting his innocence from Casablanca, Morocco.

He told journalists there that he had nothing to do with the attacks on New York and Washington, and had been in Morocco when they happened. He has contacted both the Saudi and American authorities, according to Saudi press reports.

He acknowledges that he attended flight training school at Daytona Beach in the United States, and is indeed the same Waleed Al Shehri to whom the FBI has been referring.

But, he says, he left the United States in September last year, became a pilot with Saudi Arabian airlines and is currently on a further training course in Morocco.

Mistaken identity


Abdulaziz Al Omari, another of the Flight 11 hijack suspects, has also been quoted in Arab news reports.


Abdelaziz Al Omari 'lost his passport in Denver'
He says he is an engineer with Saudi Telecoms, and that he lost his passport while studying in Denver.

Another man with exactly the same name surfaced on the pages of the English-language Arab News.

The second Abdulaziz Al Omari is a pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines, the report says.

Meanwhile, Asharq Al Awsat newspaper, a London-based Arabic daily, says it has interviewed Saeed Alghamdi.


Khalid Al-Midhar may also be alive

He was listed by the FBI as a hijacker in the United flight that crashed in Pennsylvania.

And there are suggestions that another suspect, Khalid Al Midhar, may also be alive.

FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged on Thursday that the identity of several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt.


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CNN Fears 911 Truth -
Cancels Ed Asner's Appearance

Infowars.com
3-28-6

Infowars received an email from author and publisher Sander Hicks this afternoon indicating that the interview with Ed Asner scheduled for this evening on Showbiz Tonight has been cancelled. Hicks, a published author on the 9/11 cover-up as well as a Green Party senatorial candidate in New York was slated to appear with Asner on the program to discuss 9/11. Infowars confirmed with sources at CNN the segment was cancelled because another guest who had agreed to appear as an opposition voice to Hicks and Asner refused to participate the interview at the last moment. The CNN source further indicated that the opposition guest was none other than a former member of the Keene 9/11 whitewash Commission.

Further investigation and probing of several other CNN sources closely connected with the production of the Asner segment on Showbiz Tonight reported that high-level members of CNN management advised the producers of the show to "kill it. " This statement was clearly made to stifle any further coverage of 9/11 despite the admitedly huge ratings boost and response garnered from the recent coverage of Charlie Sheen's statements on 9/11.

"I guarantee that this member of the 9/11 Commission pulled out at the last moment because they think that by simply replying to Asner and Hicks and the comments of Charlie Sheen, he would be giving credence to their statements. This is a strategic move on their part to quash debate and avoid having to actually answer the hard questions about 9/11 which the 9/11 Commission failed to do. This stonewalling technique will not work forever - there are too many people waking up to their whitewash." - Alex Jones


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The Week The Nation Went Down
The 9-11 Rabbit Hole

by Les Jamieson
March 26, 2006

We always knew that one good news event exposing the official deception of 9/11 could be the catalyst to unravel the Big Lie. We didn’t know there would be several news events in one week! Now we see what it looks like when the truth breaks loose.
Last Monday, March 20th, an article titled “The Ground Zero Grassy Knoll” by Mark Jacobson came out in New York Magazine. The 8,000 word article with photos gets to core questions still unanswered after 4 ½ years and delineates the four different possible viewpoints regarding the attacks. We get to view 9/11 in the context of other unsolved conspiracies and their cover-ups. One of the points most incriminating to the government is that NIST lead investigator stated that he couldn’t explain why Building 7 collapsed. This gets personal. Mark saw the Building 7 freefall himself.

Right on the heels of this ground-breaking article, actor Charlie Sheen was interviewed by radio host and documentary producer, Alex Jones. Alex is known for his investigative work into false flag terror and New World Order machinations. Sheen expressed his grave doubts about the official explanation of 9/11 and gave detailed reasons why. He also witnessed part of that tragic day and is speaking from first hand experience. His celebrity status coupled with what's considered a far-fetched conspiracist viewpoint made this a very risky move and required great courage and exhibited great passion for truth.

This explosive interview immediately caused a whirlwind of coverage on the net, with articles on Rawstory.com, Propagandamatrix.com, 911blogger.com and 911truth.org, to name a few. Other print media such as the New York Post and Boston Herald carried stories. To top it off CNN’s Showbiz Tonight carried 3 nights of programming that included clips of the Sheen interview, interviews with Alex Jones, a segment with researcher Mike Berger and film producer Nicole Rittenmeyer, an interview with author/researcher Webster Tarpley, and an interview with journalist Mark Jacobson. Mark was also on Air America Radio’s Rachel Maddow show this morning.

Speaking of Air America, today host Randi Rhodes, known for her hard hitting investigative commentary mixed in with raw humor and occasional shock-jock antics, took a call from a listener who saw the CNN coverage with the Berger/Rittenmeyer interview. Turns out Randi saw it, too. She said that was the best 10 minute news segment she’s ever seen, other than some segments on Bill Maher and John Stewart’s show and was amazed she would have to see this coverage on what is essentially a Hollywood gossip show. Randi went on to exclaim how it was bizzarre how Building 7 fell without being hit by a plane and how unbelievable it was that Hani Hanjour could have piloted that flight maneuver into the Pentagon.

CNN put up a poll yesterday asking if people agreed with Charlie Sheen’s view that the government is covering up what really happened on 9/11. As of 5:30 this evening over 21,000 people voted and 81% said yes.

So the dam is breaking, the tide is turning, and the wave is cresting, truth lovers. Now we wait for more of our fellow citizens to wake up to the fact that people like Paul Craig Roberts, Howard Zinn, Steven Jones, David Ray Griffin, Peter Dale Scott, Daniel Ellsberg, and many more of their stature, have challenged the official account of 9/11. Maybe more family members and firemen will have the courage to come forward to reveal the truth that will shed light on the deepest darkness imaginable to a nation raised to believe in goodness and liberty. It’s a good bet that citizens will finally become aware of some of the 115 omissions and distortions detailed in David Ray Griffin’s analysis of the fake investigation known as the 9/11 Commission Report. Maybe citizens will pay attention to the revelations of the Moussaoui trial and Able Danger proceedings which show that the scapegoats set up to look like hijackers were Oswalds, in other words, patsies or decoys. Now maybe people who hate the war, hate the assault on civil liberties, have had all they can stand with the undermining of the middle class, are shell-shocked with the trillions of debt caused by the war and terror economy, and are appalled with criminal negligence in the wake of Katrina, will all have an epiphany and realize 9/11 was the New Pearl Harbor called for by the Machiavellian mob who have overtaken the highest levels of government. Maybe a sizable majority will ask Congress why the hell have they been complicit by allowing this criminal administration to function after committing acts of treason and crimes against humanity.

We have to be sensitive to the fact that as many of our fellow citizens slide into the rabbit hole where we’ve been they’ll have difficulty grappling with the notion that our own government was responsible for the massacre of 3,000 of our own people, albeit they represent 84 different countries. There’s no shielding the naïve from the fact that hundreds of thousands of our soldiers were exposed to Agent Orange during the Viet Nam War. Hundreds of thousands more were exposed to Depleted Uranium during Gulf War I, the Balkan War, and the current invasion of Iraq. Again, hundreds of thousands of our citizens who live and work in lower Manhattan were told the toxic air was safe to breathe in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks. We have to objectively conclude that if our own Joint Chiefs of Staff were willing to sacrifice our own citizens back in 1962 in the plot known as Operation Northwoods as a pretext to invade Cuba, our current government would sacrifice 3,000 of our people to justify their agenda to solidify superpower status as outlined by The Project For A New American Century’s policy paper, Rebuilding America’s Defenses through an aggressive military strategy. This could only be supported out by an enraged, traumatized, fear-ridden public.

This week we’ve come a bit closer to viewing 9/11 as a gateway to understanding a pattern of events occurring over a span of many decades that were designed to consolidate power and wealth in the hands of a tiny, ruthless ruling syndicate. We can look through this gateway and see the forces of empire, the source of the disease afflicting the planet for so long. This pathological power network has operated in extreme secrecy and has committed acts so heinous that the population would never suspect them. Let’s fact it, Hitler himself said, the bigger the lie, the easier it is to fool the people.

This week we’ve also come a bit closer to the point where we must see 9/11 as a bridge. We must see the other side of that bridge as a place where we have an informed populace, a truthful media, a Congress that truly represents the people, and a world that works together in cooperation to utilize the best in enlightened thinking and scientific development that enhances and ennobles the life of every human being. It’s up to all of us to collectively cross that bridge while the planet can still sustain us. Like never before, making the right transition into the future can only occur with a powerful vision. Is there really a choice?


http://ny911truth.org/articles/911_rabbit_hole.htm



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posted March 29, 2006 11:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why were the witnesses being coached?

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Re: M: I honestly think that he wants the death penalty, to be a martyr at the hands of America. I was actually quite hopeful that the death penalty case would be thrown out - denying him his wish seems fitting.

I think he has all his screws loose, or lost. Yeah I hope they don't give him the death penalty if he thinks he's going to be a martyr.

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My response'll probably be torn apart for inaccuracies (I admit to not following this story terribly closely), but I think it involved being given information on the questions to and the answers of some previous witnesses in order to prepare the upcoming witnesses for their questioning.

I'm pretty sure that's (at least) almost standard practice...but this judge nixed it, and a judge's word in her courtroom is law (har dee har...OK, time for bed).

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I suppose I could do some research too...Just wondering if there's info that's not common knowledge...ie. what the media doesn't allow us to know.

I just find it odd that one day he's trying to save his butt and then the next he's asking for the death penalty...that's why I dont really believe the martyr idea. He seems just plain crazy.

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Here is David Ray Griffin's conclusions after his analysis of the WTC buildings' collapse. The full article is here:

http://911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html

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Conclusion

It is, in any case, already possible to know, beyond a reasonable doubt, one very important thing: the destruction of the World Trade Center was an inside job, orchestrated by domestic terrorists. Foreign terrorists could not have gotten access to the buildings to plant the explosives.

They probably would not have had the courtesy to make sure that the buildings collapsed straight down, rather than falling over onto surrounding buildings. And they could not have orchestrated a cover-up, from the quick disposal of the steel to the FEMA Report to The 9/11 Commission Report to the NIST Report. All of these things could have been orchestrated only by forces within our own government.

The evidence for this conclusion has thus far been largely ignored by the mainstream press, perhaps under the guise of obeying President Bush's advice not to tolerate "outrageous conspiracy theories." We have seen, however, that it is the Bush administration's conspiracy theory that is the outrageous one, because it is violently contradicted by numerous facts, including some basic laws of physics.

There is, of course, another reason why the mainstream press has not pointed out these contradictions. As a recent letter to the Los Angeles Times said:

The number of contradictions in the official version of . . . 9/11 is so overwhelming that . . . it simply cannot be believed. Yet . . . the official version cannot be abandoned because the implication of rejecting it is far too disturbing: that we are subject to a government conspiracy of 'X-Files' proportions and insidiousness.

The implications are indeed disturbing. Many people who know or at least suspect the truth about 9/11 probably believe that revealing it would be so disturbing to the American psyche, the American form of government, and global stability that it is better to pretend to believe the official version. I would suggest, however, that any merit this argument may have had earlier has been overcome by more recent events and realizations. Far more devastating to the American psyche, the American form of government, and the world as a whole will be the continued rule of those who brought us 9/11, because the values reflected in that horrendous event have been reflected in the Bush administration's lies to justify the attack on Iraq, its disregard for environmental science and the Bill of Rights, its criminal negligence both before and after Katrina, and now its apparent plan not only to weaponize space but also to authorize the use of nuclear weapons in a preemptive strike.

In light of this situation and the facts discussed in this essay---as well as dozens of more problems in the official account of 9/11 discussed in my books---I call on the New York Times to take the lead in finally exposing to the American people and the world the truth about 9/11 . Taking the lead on such a story will, of course, involve enormous risks. But if there is any news organization with the power, the prestige, and the credibility to break this story, it is the Times. It performed yeoman service in getting the 9/11 oral histories released. But now the welfare of our republic and perhaps even the survival of our civilization depend on getting the truth about 9/11 exposed. I am calling on the Times to rise to the occasion.


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I'm not sure if the switch was as quick as all that, Day Dreamer - from what I understand, it's been more his defense trying to do the "butt saving".

He's been combative and disrespectful of them and the entire process from the get-go (do a search and see if you can find his defense's closing arguments - funny stuff) and explicitly offered to testify against himself a couple of weeks ago.

If he doesn't want to see himself as a martyr, he may just feel that he trial's a sham (see his comment from when the judge decided not to dismiss the prosecution's case that was to the effect of, "The show must go on,") and that he'll get the death penalty no matter what, so he may as well give 'em what they want by implicating himself in 9/11.

Edit: You can find info on the closing arguments here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5311255

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