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Rainbow~
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posted March 24, 2006 07:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actor Charlie Sheen Questions Official 9/11 Story
Calls for truly independent investigation, joins growing ranks of prominent credible whistleblowers


by Alex Jones and Paul Watson March 20, 2006


Actor Charlie Sheen has joined a growing army of other highly credible public figures in questioning the official story of 9/11 and calling for a new independent investigation of the attack and the circumstances
surrounding it.


Over the past two years, scores of highly regarded individuals have gone public to express their serious doubts about 9/11. These include former presidential advisor and CIA analyst Ray McGovern, the father of Reaganomics and former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury Paul Craig Roberts , BYU physics Professor Steven Jones, former German defense minister Andreas von Buelow , former MI5 officer David Shayler, former Blair cabinet member Michael Meacher, former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds and many more.


Speaking to The Alex Jones Show on the GCN Radio Network, the star of current hit comedy show Two and a Half Men and dozens of movies including Platoon and Young Guns, Sheen elaborated on why he had problems believing the government's version of events.


Sheen agreed that the biggest conspiracy theory was put out by the government itself and prefaced his argument by quoting Theodore Roosevelt in stating, "That we are to stand by the President right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."


"We're not the conspiracy theorists on this particular issue," said Sheen.

"It seems to me like 19 amateurs with box cutters taking over four commercial airliners and hitting 75% of their targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory. It raises a lot of questions."


Sheen described the climate of acceptance for serious discussion about 9/11 as being far more fertile than it was a couple of years ago.


"It feels like from the people I talk to in and around my circles, it seems like the worm is turning."

SUSPICIOUS COLLAPSE OF BUILDINGS


Sheen described his immediate skepticism regarding the official reason for the collapse of the twin towers and building 7 on the day of 9/11.


"I was up early and we were gonna do a pre-shoot on Spin City, the show I used to do, I was watching the news and the north tower was burning. I saw the south tower hit live, that famous wide shot where it disappears behind the building and then we see the tremendous fireball."


"There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life and then when the buildings came down later on that day I said to my brother 'call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition'?"


Sheen said that most people's gut instinct, that the buildings had been deliberately imploded, was washed away by the incessant flood of the official version of events from day one.


Sheen questioned the plausibility of a fireballs traveling 1100 feet down an elevator shaft and causing damage to the lobbies of the towers as seen in video footage, especially when contrasted with eyewitness accounts of bombs and explosions in the basement levels of the buildings.


Regarding building 7, which wasn't hit by a plane, Sheen highlighted the use of the term "pull," a demolition industry term for pulling the outer walls of the building towards the center in an implosion, as was used by Larry Silverstein in a September 2002 PBS documentary when he said that the decision to "pull" building 7 was made before its collapse. This technique ensures the building collapses in its own footprint and can clearly be seen during the collapse of building 7 with the classic 'crimp' being visible.


The highly suspicious collapse of building 7 and the twin towers has previously been put under the spotlight by physics Professor Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan of Underwriters Laboratories, the company that certified the steel components used in the construction of the World Trade Center towers.


"The term 'pull' is as common to the demolition world as 'action and 'cut' are to the movie world," said Sheen.
Sheen referenced firefighters in the buildings who were eyewitnesses to demolition style implosions and bombs.


"This is not you or I watching the videos and speculating on what we saw, these are gentlemen inside the buildings at the very point of collapse."


"If there's a problem with building 7 then there's a problem with the whole thing," said Sheen.


Bush's behavior on 9/11


Sheen then questioned President Bush's actions on 9/11 and his location at the Booker Elementary School in Florida. Once Andy Card had whispered to Bush that America was under attack why didn't the secret service immediately whisk Bush away to a secret location?

By remaining at a location where it was publicly known the President would be before 9/11, he was not only putting his own life in danger, but the lives of hundreds of schoolchildren. That is unless the government knew for sure what the targets were beforehand and that President Bush wasn't one of them.


"It seems to me that upon the revelation of that news that the secret service would grab the President as if he was on fire and remove him from that room," said Sheen.


The question of how Bush saw the first plane hit the north tower, when no live footage of that incident was carried, an assertion that Bush repeated twice, was also put under the spotlight.

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"I guess one of the perks of being President is that you get access to TV channels that don't exist in the known universe," said Sheen.


"It might lead you to believe that he'd seen similar images in some type of rehearsal as it were, I don't know


The Pentagon incident


Sheen outlined his disbelief that the official story of what happened at the Pentagon matched the physical evidence.


"Show us this incredible maneuvering, just show it to us. Just show us how this particular plane pulled off these maneuvers. 270 degree turn at 500 miles and hour descending 7,000 feet in two and a half minutes, skimming across treetops the last 500 meters."


We have not been able to confirm that a large commercial airliner hit the Pentagon because the government has seized and refused to release any footage that would show the impact.


"I understand in the interest of national security that maybe not release the Pentagon cameras but what about the Sheraton, what about the gas station, what about the Department of Transportation freeway cam? What about all these shots that had this thing perfectly documented? Instead they put out five frames that they claim not to have authorized, it's really suspicious," said Sheen


Sheen also questioned how the plane basically disappeared into the Pentagon with next to no wreckage and no indication of what happened to the wing sections.


Concerning how the Bush administration had finalized Afghanistan war plans two days before 9/11 with the massing of 44,000 US troops and 18,000 British troops in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, and in addition the call for "some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor," Sheen stated, "you don't really put those strategies together overnight do you for a major invasion? Those are really well calculated and really well planned."


"Coincidence? We think not," said Sheen and he called the PNAC quotes "emblematic of the arrogance of this administration."


A real investigation


Sheen joined others in calling for a revised and truly independent investigation of 9/11.


Sheen said that "September 11 wasn't the Zapruder film, it was the Zapruder film festival," and that the inquiry had to be, "headed, if this is possible, by some neutral investigative committee. What if we used retired political foreign nationals? What if we used experts that don't have any ties whatsoever to this administration?"


"It is up to us to reveal the truth. It is up to us because we owe it to the families, we owe it to the victims. We owe it to everybody's life who was drastically altered, horrifically that day and forever. We owe it to them to uncover what happened."


Charlie Sheen joins the rest of his great family and notably his father Martin Sheen, who has lambasted for opposing the Iraq war before it had begun yet has now been proven right in triplicate, in using his prominent public platform to stand for truth and justice and we applaud and salute his brave efforts, remembering Mark Twain's quote.


"In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."

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Rainbow~
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posted March 24, 2006 07:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No Longer The Minority: 82% Plus, Support Charlie Sheen


by Paul Watson and Alex Jones - March 24, 2006


Despite the best efforts of the now whimpering attack poodles of the mainstream media, an online CNN poll shows that over four-fifths, or 82 per cent, agree with actor Charlie Sheen that the U.S. government covered up the real events of the 9/11 attacks.


Every establishment media mouthpiece aside from CNN tried to hang Sheen on his own words but it simply didn't work because those same questions are firing the synapses in the heads of millions upon millions of other taxpaying American citizens.


We are now in the majority and the cynics are beginning to feel the breeze of fear as they desperately cling to ignorant dogmas spoon fed to them by an empire in descent, while in the back of their mind and in their soul knowing that they have sided with the wrong team and the wrong side of history.


A.J. Hammer and CNN Showbiz Tonight need to be given their due as the only mainstream television news show to give balanced coverage of serious 9/11 questions.


This is a watershed moment in the struggle to create a powerful, educated and active contingent of individuals with no hierarchical structure but with a unified cause.


Charlie Sheen is the forerunner of the third wave of 9/11 skeptics to go public.


The first wave was concerned and informed American and worldwide citizens who educated themselves and formed action groups and organizations to inform others.


The second wave was former government officials and people of high office risking their political reputation to voice their doubts on 9/11, people like Paul Craig Roberts, Professor Steven Jones, Michael Meacher and Andreas von Buelow.


The third wave is high profile individuals who already have a substantial media platform from which to speak the truth, Hollywood stars and cultural icons. Charlie Sheen must be commended for risking his entire career for the sake of the truth and the future of America.


The fourth and final wave will be people who were in government at the time of 9/11 or those employed by the Bush administration at the time of 9/11, such as secret service officials and others close to the administration, going public with what they know. By this I don't mean watered down shills like Richard Clarke but individuals with hardcore information that could be the catalyst for impeachment.


At that point the call for a new independent investigation of 9/11 will be deafening and impossible to ignore any further.


Our efforts in stalling these control freaks is really beginning to pay dividends. Our patience for freedom will outlast their lust for power and the human spirit will triumph over evil.

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Isis
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posted March 24, 2006 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is an alien conspiracy to populate the planet with human/alien hybrids. The Twin Towers was actually a secret control center for the army of cybernetic control (ACC, prounounced ass), where the alien's army was waiting to invade.

The Jews, aware of the evil plot to terraform the planet into a methane based atmosphere that supports these human/alien hybrids, sent Mossad in to blow the Twin Towers up, as well as the Pentagon, where the hybrid known as "Rumsfeld" was directing the human support activities.

The Mossad agents, disguised as disgruntled Islamic terrorists, set the planes on a course for the Twin Towers, then teleported out to a waiting Klingon mother ship (the Klingons being involved with Halliburton and the evil aliens of course), before the impacts.

But don't worry. Mulder and Scully are on it.


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lotusheartone
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posted March 24, 2006 08:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahahahahahahahahaha

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lotusheartone
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posted March 24, 2006 08:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
phew..sorry..I was laughing so hard..

the answer is out there. ...

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TINK
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posted March 24, 2006 08:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm thinking Sheen is a stooge for the Military Industrial Complex. His true purpose is to discredit this stuff.

I wonder what they're paying him.

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jwhop
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posted March 24, 2006 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like your version of the conspiracy better than mine Isis

Not that it will make any difference to Rainbow, even if she can't explain where those commercial airliners are...since it wasn't those which hit the towers, the Pentagon and the ground in Pennsylvania...so they say.

Nor can she explain where the hell those people who were supposed to be on those planes are now.

I haven't received any further orders. I'm hoping the mothership hasn't lost my phone number. I'd hate to be stuck here with America about to disintegrate.

Who would have thought a dumb@ss like Take 50 Sheen would have figured it out?

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Rainbow~
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posted March 24, 2006 08:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isis....better be careful...

You might be in danger...blatantly revealing all that inside information...like that...

(how did you know?)

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Rainbow~
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posted March 24, 2006 08:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jwhop....count on it!

The Mother Ship has your phone number...

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TINK
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posted March 24, 2006 08:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thing is ... Sheen hasn't figured anything out. He's just repeating old news. For some reason he's decided to get on the Clooney/Sarandon bandwagon. CIA's probably sending him high priced call girls or something.

So why didn't they pull Bush out of that sitting duck position?

And why won't they release the Pentagon footage?

And why did Bush insist he saw the first plane hit?


"zapruder film festival" that's kinda cute.

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Rainbow~
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posted March 24, 2006 08:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No Longer The Minority: 82% Plus, Support Charlie Sheen

Kinda makes ya lose faith in humanity to think that 82% of the CNN viewers supported Charlie Sheen, huh? (what CAN they be thinking? )

But on the other hand, look at how many people were duped into believing Iraq had weapons of mass destruction....

Sheeple...

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lotusheartone
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posted March 24, 2006 08:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry..I'm busy learning lizard language..hehe

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jwhop
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posted March 24, 2006 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Rainbow

I'm surprised you haven't stumbled onto this vast conspiracy theory. You'll love this source.

They're trying to poison us all

Maybe CNN, the Chickenlittle News Network can run a poll on this too.
http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html

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Rainbow~
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posted March 24, 2006 08:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tink said....

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... Sheen hasn't figured anything out. He's just repeating old news.

Really Tink? Shux...such a disillusionment...gol darn!

But if it's really true that he didn't just figure it out...at least it's a good thing that he's bringing it to people's attention now, even if it IS old news...

If there's the slightest possibilty that something so horrendous as the events of 9/11 was a cover up...then God help us, PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW!

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lotusheartone
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posted March 24, 2006 08:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainbow..it is all made up..that is the truth. ...

that's why we are joking so much..

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Rainbow~
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posted March 24, 2006 08:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you know for absolute sure it is the truth, Lotus?

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lotusheartone
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posted March 24, 2006 09:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have gone within..and this is all lies..

that is what is shone to me..


so..I just know. ...

it's horrendous that people don't go within..and find out for themSelves..
instead they follow the big herd..
blindly..

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lotusheartone
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posted March 24, 2006 09:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for people to lie..and say such things..against the government..well..that's really dark..because the Government is our only hope..so please..think about all of this..

Lots of Love. ...

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Rainbow~
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posted March 24, 2006 09:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Lotus....

...excuuuuse me.....

I didn't realize I was cavorting on this forum with a being of such spiritual elevation...

From my earthly, material, unevolved being, I humbly apologize....your Greatness...

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Rainbow~
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posted March 24, 2006 09:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...and really my dear Lotus, you are very disillusioned if you think THE GOVERNMENT IS OUR ONLY HOPE!

I am surprised that with your honing in capabilities, you haven't picked up on the fact that the current administration REEKS!!!

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lotusheartone
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posted March 24, 2006 09:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no..excuse me..for I am no better than any other person on this earth..

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lotusheartone
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posted March 24, 2006 09:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainbow..believe what you want..think what you want..that's your free wi11 choice..making fun of me..well that's just you being you..enjoy..sending you lots of love. ...

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Rainbow~
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posted March 25, 2006 12:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not making fun of you, Lotus...

...but you were chiding me for not going "within," (as you do), inferring that I must be inferior in some way since I don't do it too...thereby not discerning the "truth."

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lotusheartone
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posted March 25, 2006 12:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
then try it..and you will know truth..

lots of Love

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Rainbow~
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posted March 25, 2006 12:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
United Airlines reported early on 9/11 that Flight 93 landed in Cleveland:

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UAL Flight 93 Landed Safely
At Cleveland Hopkins Airport

Plane Lands In Cleveland - Bomb Feared Aboard

Reported by 9News Staff
Web produced by:Liz Foreman
9/11/01 11:43:57 AM

A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor Michael R. White.

White said the plane had been moved to a secure area of the airport, and was evacuated.

United identified the plane as Flight 93. The airline did not say how many people were aboard the flight.

United said it was also "deeply concerned" about another flight, Flight 175, a Boeing 767, which was bound from Boston to Los Angeles.

On behalf of the airline CEO James Goodwin said: "The thoughts of everyone at United are with the passengers and crew of these flights. Our prayers are also with everyone on the ground who may have been involved.

(Mayor Michael White must be disillusional)

"United is working with all the relevant authorities, including the FBI, to obtain further information on these flights," he said.


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