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Isis
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posted August 11, 2006 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll say it again my intellectually-challenged troll..

Put the crack pipe down.

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Isis
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posted August 11, 2006 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And incidentally, I'd like this to be my formal request for VL to once again be banned.

Doesn't calling someone a "dirty wh@re" qualify as a bannable offense?

And please don't argue with me that Pid is just as bad. If you think so, you too are welcome to request she be banned.

<edit> And maybe this time there is actually something Randall can do to make it stick.

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Venusian Love
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posted August 11, 2006 04:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nasty dirty wh*re


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Eleanore
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posted August 11, 2006 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's crossing the line as far as I'm concerned, too.

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pidaua
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posted August 11, 2006 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep... it is time for her to get banned - Again...

Once again, people like her start calling people "wh*re" "B1tch" "Gash" etc.... when they get angry.

I am not innocent- I have called people names and will most likely keep doing it .

Once again, I have yet to call someone a name based on race, gender or sexual orientation. When are we going to stop tolerating those types of attacks by VL / TP / MD..etc....?

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Isis
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posted August 11, 2006 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's kinda funny is that what she is referring to is a post on the Astro forums about "friends with benefits". I had a "friend with benefits" for years when I was single and travelling a lot. Somehow she extrapolates having one "friend with benefits" as enjoying one night stands. Prolly some projection there on her part though.

Being called a ***** doesn't really bug me, because I'm not - it's the fact that with someone like her around, I don't feel like I can go express myself on another forum here without having her try to bring it back up on a completely seperate unrealated thread, mistating what I said in an attempt to paint me in a unflattering light.

I mean, for all the annoyance I may get from Mirandee, Rainbow, or whomever, to their credit, I don't get a nasty attitude from them outside of GU, nor do they bring up something I posted forever ago in a completely unrelated forum and use it to portray me in a disparaging way.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 11, 2006 05:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well with that logic, I think pid deserves to be banned as well for all the name calling she does.

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Isis
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posted August 11, 2006 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well DD, you are completely within your rights to request that. I think she hasn't been banned for various reasons, one being that she does keep away from certain "taboos" here, another being that usually the namecalling is going on between her and Rainbow, and they're both just as bad.

I think if I called VL a string of insults and she came back and called me a ***** , that would be a different thing than just coming into a thread in which she's not even being addressed and randomly throwing out a rude insult.

I kinda look at LL as this giant mixer. Sure, Pid and Rainbow may be in a corner arguing, but there's a difference between two people arguing and one person running into a convo they were no part of and randomly shouting epithets at people.

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lioneye68
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posted August 11, 2006 05:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@VL

Pid will insult what she sees as character flaws, but she doesn't reach down as far as she can for the low blows like VL does. At least Pid's insults are relative to the dispute, or a person's stance on it. VL's insults are just meant to be infuriating & inflamatory and nothing more. Because she is a true, bonified troll. Didn't you know?

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jwhop
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posted August 11, 2006 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well ladies, I'm going to offer a different opinion about banning TP.

Pid has listed some good reasons and I support this:

"Calling someone a name based on race, gender or sexual orientation."

Since this is a public forum, I would add to that list..."telling someone to shut up" or any derivative thereof like...STFU.

This is a rough and tumble forum and wisely used to take very controversial subjects off the other forums. People here are not shrinking violets. TP is everything others have said and makes inflammatory off the wall comments. When she does, I consider the source.

Now, you ladies know you're not Ho's, not lesbians, not ugly and not any of the vile things TP calls you....and me. So do the rest of us.

Randall has his own measuring stick for what's over the line here. As always, it will be his decision but that's my 3 cents worth.

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pidaua
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posted August 11, 2006 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And again, I have admitted my name-calling and again, I stay away from "taboos" such as posting a person's picture, chart etc... I don't base a name on someone's race or in a derogatory gender bias.

BUT.. that being said, DayDreamer is quivering in her boots to get me banned. There is nothing she would like more than to see me go because she can't handle me countering her statements protecting Islamic Terrorists.

I have yet to come into a conversation indiscriminately call someone a wh*re just because they disagreed with me.

I will not make excuses for the names I use. Calling someone a twit is just that- I feel like they are a twit

"The act or an instance of twitting.
A reproach, gibe, or taunt.
Slang. A foolishly annoying person. "


A foolishly annoying person....

Brain Dead Moron - that is self explanatory

Drooling Old Hag

Drooling- Self explanatory.. as is the word Old..

Hag- now that is an interesting term:


hag1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hg)
n.
An old woman considered ugly or frightful.

A witch; a sorceress.
Obsolete. A female demon.
A hagfish.

Now- ugly is subjective and although I wouldn't really call someone ugly on the outside, because one person's ugly is another person's "hot" I do call people ugly on the inside.

Hmmm... what else....

Oh yes.. a Terrorist.. or terrorist supporter.

I have explained that term numerous times; If you apologize for the actions of terrorists and even provide justification for their actions while also condemning the West and telling us we deserve it- YOU ARE A SUPPORTER and any supporter of a terrorist is a terrorist in MY book.

Those are MY judgements and I am not pretending they are anyone elses.

I have labelled peoples actions as being subversive, sly, sneaky, passive-aggressive, untruths and outright lies. When someone first tells me they don't blame Bush for Katrina or for murder, then they say "well, yes he could have prevented Katrina and he is killing babies" they have contradicted themselves and that is a LIE.

Lie:

A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.


For example- posting a thread about Bush calling someone in Indian Kemosabe and posting it without any clarification- thereby leading some of the more mindless twits to get angry at him for being so stupid - is a LIE.. "something meant to deceive or give the wrong impression"

"Bush is a Baby Killer" that is a lie- has anyone seen him kill infants? Has he taken away someone's child and shot them in front of the parent? That statement is an outright form of deception...

and therefore a LIE.. the person that states that.. is a LIAR.

Any more questions?

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The democratic world believes that it is not the terrorists that are to blame, but us. Us, the westerners.
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the sooner you eliminate this misconception from your minds, the better.
We are NOT to blame. It is the freaking terrorists and the freaking terrorists only!!!! They are the bad guys. They do not understand concepts like peace, democracy, and respect for human life. They are, pure and simPle, EVIL!!!!! Behind all their political manipulations, if you carefully look at the actions of these MONSTERS, they are EVIL!!


http://www.mideastweb.org/log/archives/00000489.htm

Provided by the lovely Lady Lioneye :)

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DayDreamer
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posted August 11, 2006 06:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well pid you're entitled to your opinions. I still believe you have a problem with name calling, and I don't see your name calling much different from the one's you claim to stay away. In fact, you've said a number of derogatory things based on my religion.

And LOL, Ive never and never in a million years will "quiver in my boots", though I wouldnt care if you got banned or not.

Personally, I haven't been able to see much usefulness, purpose or good in the things you've posted here. Ive only been a witness to you're petty bickering. Maybe I don't know you well enough??

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pidaua
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posted August 11, 2006 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well..coming from someone like you that doesn't see the difference between the Military ousting Saddam / routing out insurgents and terrorist murderers killing innocent civilians on a plane.. of course you would compare me calling someone a twit with calling someone a racial name.

Because you're an idiot plain and simple.

Carry on with your arguments.. I'd LOVE to see how you can justify them. You're logic is right up there with the thinking power of an amoeba.


PS...I want you to document what I have said, in a derogatory manner, about the Muslim religion.

I have only stated MY opinion over Islamic extremists I have yet to call someone a POS Muslim that should be murdered or anything of that nature. Discussing how an evil person can take the word of the Koran and twist it into the justification for killing people is NOT derogatory.

I use the SAME set of parameters for Christians that use the Bible to kill people outside of abortion clinics.

Go ahead DD... I challenge you to find where I have condemned someone or used derogatory language towards Muslims, as a religion or a people, here or anywhere on LindaLand.

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pidaua
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posted August 11, 2006 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No you don't know me DD and you never will. I post on several other forums and do my best to help others out.. which is probably why I am called on for advice in those other forums.

I will guarantee you on thing though- YOU are one of 5 people that I would NEVER answer to on another forum even if you needed help in the worst way. After the things you have said about this country and your support for the terrorists / their actions, I will never help someone like you.

So carry on with your posting of lies... I am still waiting for you to post where I was so derogatory to the Islamic religion- (remember this is a way to get me banned- but while you do it, remember you must keep in mind that ALL people that have bashed on the religious RIGHT / Christians- should also be banned).

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juniperb
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posted August 11, 2006 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ban em all and let God sort them out.

Seriouslyany rules are dfficult to enforce for bad manners, morals or ethics.

Way too subjective; whose ethics, whose morals & so on.

If I was a Mensa IQer & someone called me a twit I may absolutely be offended. If I was a Chriatian lady & was called a ho' bag.... well you can see the difficulty objectively drawing the line.

As long as we`re a public forum , we have to take our licks and determine OUR moral, ethical and good manner responses to the offenders.

My 4 cents

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Eleanore
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posted August 11, 2006 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are many people who walk a fine line in LL, especially in GU. I don't have a problem with them and if I did, I would voice it where I deemed it appropriate to do so. But Venusian Love is a case entirely different in all respects. It's not a matter of "should she be banned", it's the fact that she IS banned and has been banned under different names MANY times. Am I the only one that sees that she, as a person ... the entity who registers under different names here ... is the one who is banned? She isn't her username(s). If I get banned for abusing the rules repeatedly at a community club in "real life", I can't just put on a disguise or a costume and keep showing up like I'm a totally different person. Who would stand for that? I'd not only be banned from there AGAIN, I'd be recognized for the total nut I'd be and hopefully reported to somebody who would get me help for my very serious problems.
I don't see why she deserves to be here. The minute she is spotted under a different name, she should be banned again as would happen were we off the net, imo. But, of course, I'm not the webmaster here, nor do I wish to be, and I will continue to support Randall in any decisions he makes around here.
Oh, you Cappy ... God/dess bless you for the patience you have to put up with all our unruliness.


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neptune5
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posted August 11, 2006 09:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pidaua,

Quote: "Bush is a Baby Killer" that is a lie- has anyone seen him kill infants? Has he taken away someone's child and shot them in front of the parent? That statement is an outright form of deception...

and therefore a LIE.. the person that states that.. is a LIAR.

Any more questions?

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Yes, pid I do have a question, what about stem cell research? Bush is for that, so he's allegedly taking innocent lives, even if they are already aborted.

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Virgo Rising, Sagittarius Sun, Pisces Moon

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Eleanore
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posted August 11, 2006 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Assuming abortion is killing ... the fetuses are already "dead" when they are used for stem cell research.


Not that I'm a fan of stem cell research, either. But taking something that is supposedly useful from a body that does not contain life is quite different from killing a life to take something you want/need. Isn't it?

It's strange the way these threads evolve sometimes ... I'm glad no one else got blown up by terrorists again, if anyone still cares about the topic here.

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Mirandee
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posted August 12, 2006 02:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not live in a world where everything is conspiracy, Isis. In fact I have never been a conspiracy therorist. But I do live in the real world that is able to analyze, look at things in a logic manner and one where people do not get all their news from Fox News, NewMax and Neo Con sources. I look at all sides of it. You should try it sometime instead of making rash judgements on limited knowledge.

Funny what you said regarding feeling sorry for me, Isis, because I feel sorry for all of you guys who are so closed and shallow minded that all you can do is judge, condemn, label, and call others names who do not think as you do and who make the effort to inform themselves by using all the available news sources and articles instead of just naively believing what the government tells them. I also feel sorry for anyone who is a reactionary like you people. And I feel sorry for you guys because you have chosen to be controlled by fear. It must be terrible to live your life in fear. It must also be terrible to live your life with so much hate in you.

Pidaua, in yours, Jwhop's and Isis's attempts at making others look stupid the three of you only succeed in making yourself look stupid and childish instead. Do you know how very stupid and childish it sounds for a grown woman to be saying, "Stainbow" instead of Rainbow? I imagine you think that's witty. It's not. It's just stupid and childish.

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Mirandee
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posted August 12, 2006 02:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Get real, Isis! VL should be banned when Pidaua and Jwhop talk worse or just as bad to people as she does?

I think if Pidaua can call people names and Jwhop can do it then it should be allowed from everyone. Pidaua called Rainbow a "drooling old hag." Pidaua starts every post here at GU with an insult as does Jwhop. Their only intention of being here in fact is to come onto threads and start arguments. Talk about trolls.

These two attack people all the time with verbal abuse and then want someone banned from the site for doing it to you. What hypocrites and phonies!!!!

The only difference is that VL comes straight out with it while Pidaua does it in an indirect manner but implies and insinuates the same thing. So you think that VL should be banned for being direct and honest and it's okay for Pidaua to stay because she does it in a sneaky and dishonest manner? It still amounts to the same thing.

In fact, LL is probably the only site like this with public forums that Pidaua and Jwhop wouldn't be banned from.

I have my reasons for doing the same thing back to them that do to me and others, JuniperB. I do not feel that people have to just put up with bad behavior of others. To do that shows no self-respect. Doing nothing only enables them to continue on with their bad behavior. So I hand it back to them in spades because they need to be told by other people and they need to learn that what you dish out you better be prepared to get back in return. It's strange that anyone would treat others badly and expect to be treated well in return.

I still find it very amusing that both Jwhop and Pidaua claim to place certain "standards" on verbal abuse. Which then makes it okay for them to verbally abuse others. But then again, we all find ways and excuses to justify our actions don't we? The fact remains, verbal abuse is verbal abuse no matter what else you want to call it or what "standards" you place on it. Ask any psychologist.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 12, 2006 02:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said Mirandee!

This one too, since the topic deviated to what and who should get banned...

quote:
I still find it very amusing that both Jwhop and Pidaua claim to place certain "standards" on verbal abuse. Which then makes it okay for them to verbally abuse others. But then again, we all find ways and excuses to justify our actions don't we? The fact remains, verbal abuse is verbal abuse no matter what else you want to call it or what "standards" you place on it. Ask any psychologist.

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Mirandee
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posted August 12, 2006 03:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And what was I attacked for here on this thread? Because I posted another viewpoint.

That is normally what the neo-cons here at LL verbally abuse and insult any of us for, for giving a different viewpoint and a different opinion. That is not only anti-democratic, it is intolerant and with a couple of people here at LL it borders on the insane.

I guess the idea is that if you verbally abuse people long enough they will leave and stop posting what you don't want anyone to know or what you don't want to hear. It is not going to work on me or quite a few of us so called "liberals."

This is America and we have a right to give our opinions as much as you do. We have a right to disagree with your opinions and we have a right as a free people to be conspiracy theorist if we choose to be one.

To think otherwise is not patriotic at all. It is in fact treasonous. That is why I draw the conclusion that all neo-cons are out to destroy democracy in America and they are all treasonous against the Constitution.

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posted August 12, 2006 03:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I've noticed sharing a different viewpoint or opinion could get verbal diarrhea spewed at you.

I see through why some try to verbally abuse others who dont share their perspectives. And it will never work on me either.

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juniperb
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posted August 12, 2006 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mirandee,

quote:
have my reasons for doing the same thing back to them that do to me and others, JuniperB. I do not feel that people have to just put up with bad behavior of others. To do that shows no self-respect

Exactly my point

Who has the moral or ethical Truth to be pronounced on a group? We each have that right unto ourselves but to insist another follow OUR code is a difficult path to Global Unity.

This forum isn`t exactly a chance meeting place for objectivity but for passions & beliefs. Good, bad or ugly, if one plays in the mud, one is going to get mud splattered on them. There are many ways to wash the mud off. The choice of how we wash is ours & ours alone.


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salome
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posted August 12, 2006 11:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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For example- posting a thread about Bush calling someone in Indian Kemosabe and posting it without any clarification- thereby leading some of the more mindless twits to get angry at him for being so stupid - is a LIE.. "something meant to deceive or give the wrong impression"

lol...pidaua's still seething because she fell for it when everyone else knew it was a spoof.

as for your 'standards' and 'rules,' they are both subjective and laughable to the extreme. the personal manner in which you attack, slander and express the most vile things about people, usually simply because you disagree with their opinion or stance, is far worse and damaging than the use of a few token curse words and nebulous "taboos".

that you choose to 'uphold' your behavior in light of these few words and arbitrary rules and standards is so ridiculous i can't believe you take yourself seriously.

you overstep every boundary of decency and protocol on this board, in a much more sinister way than anyone else here.

why it is that you think that your arbitrary standards and rules should apply here, considering your unchecked and despicably abusive behavior towards those whose opinions displease you, i can't fathom -- it's the most absurd and non-sequitur position i've seen anywhere.

and since it appears you misunderstand in the worst way, insulting and degrading people is in no way the same thing as debate.

or perhaps 'it's all in jest...LMAO'...

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