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neptune5
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posted August 16, 2006 07:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very well said pidaua.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 16, 2006 07:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pidaua,

You are unbelievable!

You cry out against racism when Berry Sweet and LeylaLeFaye say they aren't convinced you are part Native American.

Yet you are totally oblivious to the idiotic comments made to generalize Muslim women by your crew of weasels.

I don't have to show any proof to you. Im not here to convince an audience. I know what you've said and posted. And knowing that is all that matters to me...I know the type of mentality Im dealing with.

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Isis
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posted August 16, 2006 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD, nobody here has ever come out against Muslims on a wholesale basis, not that I've seen in the 2+ years I've been posting here.

The only two types of people I've seen some here come out against wholesale are Neo-Cons and Leftists/Liberals. That's it.

I've never heard someone here (in GU) say:

gay people are bad
people of _______ (enter religion) are bad
people of _______ (enter race) are bad
people from any country are bad
all _________ (fill in Sun Sign) are bad

Nothing like that. I have heard.

Neo-cons are bad
Leftists are bad
Conservatives are bad
Liberals are bad

etc...

If you believe that's not the case - if you believe Pid, myself or anyone else has impugned Islam or Muslims on a wholesale basis, then obviously we're unaware of our alleged behavior and pointing out where our comments displayed that would be a good start to showing us what it is you're talking about. If you can't even just relate one example of where that was done, even anecdotally, then one can only conclude that you're making it up cause you're angry or whatever.

And btw, requesting you back up an accusation that someone is racist or hates an entire religion is not the same as someone instructing you to prove your cultural heritage, no matter how much you might want to equate it.

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pidaua
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posted August 16, 2006 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WHOA... DayDreamer that is not the same.

Demanding someone take a DNA test or scan a tribal card into the computer to prove they are American Indian is quite different than me asking you to prove your accusations.

I have NEVER asked you to prove you are a Muslim, I have NEVER said all Muslims are evil, terrorists or support terrorism. I have NEVER said ALL Muslim women are at the mercy of men that mistreat them.

I HAVE posted articles about women's rights in Muslim led countries. The fact remains and it is provable, published and well documented, that women do NOT have the SAME RIGHTS AS MEN in Muslim led countries.


Tell me how that is racist? Tell me how you accusing me of making these kinds of statments and me asking you to prove I said that is equal to LeyLafey and BerrySweet?

That is the same logic you use to equate Coalition forces actions against insurgents and terrorists murdering children in a school.


"In fact, you've said a number of derogatory things based on my religion."

I asked you to prove what you accused me of. If you can't then fine- we'll move on. If you feel I have insulted all Muslims by pointing out the evil of a few- then I am sorry you mistook my meaning, but I won't stop saying it. Some Muslims are horrible in that they pervert the word to commit evil acts.

Some Christians are just as bad.


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DayDreamer
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posted August 16, 2006 11:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isis,

if you havent noticed I was addressing Pidaua. Not you! I was not talking to you! So go, scoot.

Pid,

if or when the search function in GU works again, I will just have to cut and paste for you. I hope you won't go back and change your posts.

Quite frankly, going through each post trying to prove to you something we both already know is only a waste of my time.

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Isis
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posted August 17, 2006 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a public forum DD, I will speak to whomever, whenever I like. If you don't like it I suggest you "go, scoot".

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lotusheartone
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posted August 17, 2006 12:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DayDreamer..Pidaua..is an honest good person..
don't dilly-dally..
look in the mirror!

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pidaua
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posted August 17, 2006 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DayDreamer,

You won't find it because I have never made fun of the Islamic religion nor have I stated that ALL Muslims are wrong. In fact, I have made it a well known fact, which is even on my signature, that I find all Muslim TERRORISTS to be EVIL. Add to that list ELF, ALF, PETA and Christians that kill abortion doctors.. the list is long. ANYONE that uses doctrine as a basis to hate and murder is a real idiot in my book.

BUT.. when you do your search (and this quest began with you calling to have ME banned) EVERYONE that has said something disparaging about another's religion will also have to be banned.

That includes the people that distort any picture of Christ.

Anyone that has said Wicca is wrong and another religion is right.

Again, the list can continue.

So when you peruse through my posts keep in mind the can of worms you will be opening towards other people- because I KNOW I have not bashed on Islam- also keep in mind questioning the basis or doctrine of a religion is NOT bashing.

Have fun!

PS... Isis is right, she is can address anyone she wants - it is a public forum.

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The democratic world believes that it is not the terrorists that are to blame, but us. Us, the westerners.
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the sooner you eliminate this misconception from your minds, the better.
We are NOT to blame. It is the freaking terrorists and the freaking terrorists only!!!! They are the bad guys. They do not understand concepts like peace, democracy, and respect for human life. They are, pure and simPle, EVIL!!!!! Behind all their political manipulations, if you carefully look at the actions of these MONSTERS, they are EVIL!!


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Gemini-05
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posted August 18, 2006 12:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"OPEC's outlook comes as oil is trading just below $72 (U.S.) a barrel, within sight of a record $78.40 hit in July. Oil demand in industrialized countries fell in the second quarter, and last week's alleged aircraft bomb plot may curb air travel, OPEC said.

"The planned attack on airliners in London is expected to dent jet-fuel demand, at least in the short run," the report said. "High oil prices have somewhat dampened oil-demand growth, especially in some Asian countries."

Is it possible that it was all to increase the prices of Oil?????????? Was it a staged event....???
Hmmmm...makes ya think

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jwhop
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posted August 18, 2006 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you mean a staged event by the oil producing nations who are reaping the benefits of higher oil prices at their oil terminals? Staged by the terrorist regime of Iran...one of the largest oil producers?

Btw, the price of oil closed today at $70 per barrel...down $1.89 from Wednesday.

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Gemini-05
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posted August 18, 2006 01:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well consider that the article i posted was from Aug. 17, 2006. 01:00 AM it would make sense the price has already changed. Thanks for the update though Champ.
Anyways...if you were as smart as you seem...then you would realize that not all the people whom were apparantely participating in thie "plot" were from the Middle east. Anyways... if you know ur economics than you know that if demand decrease....supply decrease!
Which means either the price will drop or will increase right? So lets say something like that affects the OIL Markets- which it did...and people don't want to trade. All the factors begin to affect the pricing. But if its a natural resource- that we are living off of there are still about to influence the price. So why would they drop it drastically. Since the cease fire btwn Hezbollah and Isreal...since this plot has been over...the market is beginning to settle again...so the prices will begin to creep up again... Who better to profit off of it but the oil companies. Right??

And come on what makes you think that The oil companies in the states aren't in cahoots w/ oil companies in the middle east. Please don't tell me that you're that naive.

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