posted November 07, 2006 02:56 PM              

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What separates me from people like you and them? Had someone started a thread like that geared towards you (and trust me- there is enough evidence of the vile accusations and posts all four of you are guilty of, that it would make it easy for someone to single you out in a thread) I would have been the first person to call it an attack and ask for it to be deleted or at the very least I would have had harsh words for the person that started it.

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what a load of sh1t. you are full of it, as usual. you know what im talking about.

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posted November 07, 2006 02:56 PM              

i have suggested several times that you email me regarding your personal issues with me. since you have not done so, and have continued clogging legitimate threads with these issues, i will answer them here.

posted November 07, 2006 03:00 PM              

naiad,
I was referring to Rainbow and some of the people that jumped onto the attack Pidaua train.

The fact that you started that thread with my name in the title along with "and her personal issues" is a total blitz attack any way you want to look at it. It is demonstrative of what lurks within the person that has the audacity to even THINK that posting something like that is anything less than an attack.

IF you wanted to start a "personal issue" thread you; 1) would not have listed my name in the title 2) would not have centered the nature of the post around me and 3) would not have defended yourself to the extent that you did when several people posted against you.

What you did was wrong. It is wrong here at Lindaland and as far as ethics is concerned - well, yours are questionable.

Rainbow, DayDreamer and Mirandee jumped on the band wagon as they are always looking for a way to attack me. What separates me from people like you and them? Had someone started a thread like that geared towards you (and trust me- there is enough evidence of the vile accusations and posts all four of you are guilty of, that it would make it easy for someone to single you out in a thread) I would have been the first person to call it an attack and ask for it to be deleted or at the very least I would have had harsh words for the person that started it.

Several of us have been on the brunt of such attacks - being accused of altering articles (false) being singled out and called a racist (false) and having two hateful people start posts to attack ME on a personal level.

What you did, didn't hurt me. I laughed at you and how you had the nerve to think that it was proper or somehow justified. You and the other three henchwomen proved the kind of people you are by your posts.

In retrospect, I should thank you. Thank you for showing all of us here what the four of you are truly like.

BTW: I have the right to bring it up since there were several people (which was twice- Once to Mirandee and once to Rainbow) that attacked me on that thread. Using the word "continually" to describe the two times I brought it up is incorrect.

posted November 07, 2006 03:03 PM              

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Another point salome- several people did tell you how it was an attack. Bear and I stopped the thread by being gracious enough to ask for it to be dropped.

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youre one moment of grace ever! congrats pid! now what about all the other ungraceful times?

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"WHATEVER the soul longs for, WILL be attained by the spirit"-Khalil Gibran

posted November 07, 2006 03:13 PM            

"as my continual requests to resolve these issues in private are still ignored, i hope that this will be a more appropriate place to try to resolve them. at least it will be a place to redirect the personal accusations and insults, that once again, are overrunning legitimate threads."

Who have you requested to resolve these issues in private?

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And - you actually deserved a call out because of what you said to Neptune5. She did label the topic "and" with a "compassion heart".

She did not label it "and- the stupid girl that posts inane post after posts on bums or whatever stupid thought pops into her head at that moment". You and your little friends then went on the attack and I defended her. She did not attack you. She asked you a question and then said your actions were indicative of someone that thinks they are better than others.

Salome's thread was an outright attack, in title and in form.

The fact that you cannot tell the differences does not surprise me. You are the same person that confuses issues of religious inquiry with racism and calls homeless people "bums".

When I consider the moral fortitude of you and salome - I'm reminded that the things you say have no bearing in the long run due your lack in ethics.

posted November 07, 2006 03:18 PM              

Pid to Rainbow:

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.... but it is kind of funny that you think you are so smart to come up with a comparison between ME and someone from back in your day when school houses had one room.

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It's called "free-for-all" for a reason. Ethics? youre the LAST PERSON to be giving a speech about ethics, I dont think youve ever had any.

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Bum...Hmm I actually help them in the community which was the reason I was bringing it up, I doubt you ever help, or give a sh1t so get off your high horse. Look up the defination on dictionary.

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"WHATEVER the soul longs for, WILL be attained by the spirit"-Khalil Gibran

posted November 07, 2006 03:28 PM              

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"WHATEVER the soul longs for, WILL be attained by the spirit"-Khalil Gibran

posted November 07, 2006 03:32 PM              

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I was referring to Rainbow and some of the people that jumped onto the attack Pidaua train.

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rainbow said nothing personal about you in that thread. she rather asked for an end to the chaos.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/002889.html

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The fact that you started that thread with my name in the title along with "and her personal issues" is a total blitz attack any way you want to look at it. It is demonstrative of what lurks within the person that has the audacity to even THINK that posting something like that is anything less than an attack.

IF you wanted to start a "personal issue" thread you; 1) would not have listed my name in the title 2) would not have centered the nature of the post around me and 3) would not have defended yourself to the extent that you did when several people posted against you.

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regarding your personal issues thread, i will state again, as i did repeatedly, that it was not an attack. it was a legitimate attempt to direct your personal bitterness and contempt for me due to disagreement away from legitimate topics.

i agreed that your name should not have been in the thread -- it was however about your personal issues, and it was not an attack.

that it generated negative focus on you was a source of concern for me. hence my request that Randall delete it. i have asked him several times to do so. that he hasn't is good, as its presence proves that it was not an attack.

the people displeased with it were people who always disagree with the opinions that i present in this forum. not one of them provided an answer upon my asking how the thread was an attack. mirandee had the graciousness to say that your name in the title made it appear that way, and as i stated, it would be fine with me to rename the thread 'the personal issues thread.'

other than your name being in the title, and as the thread was about your personal issues, which is in no way an insult (and if anyone should know about insults, it should be you), that's understandable.

if i were you, i'd like that whole issue to be forgotten. but as you continue bringing it up, it is obviously not 'water under the bridge,' as you stated in your reply to my apology.

please re-read the thread, for more complete understanding. if you wish to discuss your personal issues with me, including the thread itself, which was not an attack, but which you have chosen now to run about whining about, i invite you to email me and try to resolve them in private, without further polluting this board with such redundant ill will.

i did not intend for the thread to be a spotlight on you, i intended it to be a place where i could more completely focus on the numerous and endless accusations and personal questions you fill pages and pages with in several threads towards me. again, i will say that perhaps those should be resolved in private email.

here is the thread itself, for clarification ~
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/002889-3.html

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What you did was wrong. It is wrong here at Lindaland and as far as ethics is concerned - well, yours are questionable.

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what you do in your continued and unending nstiness toward people who disagree with you everyday is wrong. i made a legitimate attempt to contain the endless personal arguments in one place and keep the other threads relatively free of all this bile. what you think of my ethics is nothing more than laughable to me. coming from someone like you, that is ironic in the extreme.

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Rainbow, DayDreamer and Mirandee jumped on the band wagon as they are always looking for a way to attack me. What separates me from people like you and them? Had someone started a thread like that geared towards you (and trust me- there is enough evidence of the vile accusations and posts all four of you are guilty of, that it would make it easy for someone to single you out in a thread) I would have been the first person to call it an attack and ask for it to be deleted or at the very least I would have had harsh words for the person that started it.

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lol ~ PLEASE re-read the numerous personally degrading things you have said about me, and the numerous times that you have expressed your pure hatred toward me, and stop to think about the very laughable statement you just made. in one instance, you disagreed with my repeating a statement that linda goodman had made regarding animal culling leading to human culling, stating how you would love to see my loved ones attacked by a rabid coyote. how much more contradictory will you prove yourslf to be??

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Several of us have been on the brunt of such attacks - being accused of altering articles (false) being singled out and called a racist (false) and having two hateful people start posts to attack ME on a personal level.

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i hope that those accused were able to resolve these issues.

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What you did, didn't hurt me. I laughed at you and how you had the nerve to think that it was proper or somehow justified. You and the other three henchwomen proved the kind of people you are by your posts.

In retrospect, I should thank you. Thank you for showing all of us here what the four of you are truly like.

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i didn't intend to hurt you pidaua. that's what you do to others. it's the reason i asked for the thread to be deleted, as that wasn't at all my original intention.

you're very welcome. perhaps at sometime you will decide to contain your nastiness and extreme ill will toward those who disagree with you.

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BTW: I have the right to bring it up since there were several people (which was twice- Once to Mirandee and once to Rainbow) that attacked me on that thread. Using the word "continually" to describe the two times I brought it up is incorrect.

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posted November 07, 2006 03:36 PM              

Another point salome- several people did tell you how it was an attack. Bear and I stopped the thread by being gracious enough to ask for it to be dropped.
Had I not said that, you can bet several other people would have posted on there on my behalf and against how you lowered yourself.

Oh.... my bad- I forgot to add "and" to the list of attack artists from that thread. LOL....

posted November 07, 2006 03:48 PM            

Salome,

I see you are turning this into an attack on me thread again. Did you think just by dropping my name it would not turn back into an attackfest with your post after post with my quotes?

posted November 07, 2006 03:53 PM              

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Another point salome- several people did tell you how it was an attack. Bear and I stopped the thread by being gracious enough to ask for it to be dropped.
Had I not said that, you can bet several other people would have posted on there on my behalf and against how you lowered yourself.

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who told me 'how' it was an attack? each time i asked, i did not receive a reply. mirandee pointed out that your name was in the thread....and the thread is about your personal issues. i immediately agreed, that perhaps your name should not be in the thread. i should have called it 'the personal issues thread' to begin with. if the thread itself is the issue, and considering your repeated attacks on me for posting one post about a subject that you don't think is relevant to the subject at hand, i don't think starting a separate thread about your unending accusations and insults any different.

although i have suggested numerous times discussing the personal issues in email rather than on the public forum.

neither your nor bear ever asked for the thread to be dropped.

please re-read ~

posted November 07, 2006 03:57 PM              

i stated repeatedly that i did not intend it as an attack, and i apologized for the thread.

after all that, that you bring it up again, in a derogatory way, is so counterproductive i cannot begin to believe a single word that you say.

you stated 'that it was water under the bridge'...ha ha...

posted November 07, 2006 04:02 PM            

"naiad / salome,
Did you think starting a new thread titled "the personal issues thread" but attacking only me would change the actual context of your attacks on me? Taking my name out of the title but revolving your posts around me does little deflect your intent.

You are a sick and malicious woman. You started this thread and as well as the other in order to attack me and for that purpose only. You and your little henchwomen that posted attacks on me here have only shown the hate that you harbor inside while you preach your self-righteous BS on thread after thread.

You want to censor people to keep them from adding anything personal, or to be specific, anything YOU don't like to a thread. When someone does it to you, you lash out and act indignant.

I had a right to bring up this thread to Mirandee and Rainbow as they posted here and launched attacks on me in a few other threads. If you don't like it to bad, you shouldn't have started a thread like this in the first place.

You asked me on another thread to prove where people thought this was an attack- well, read what they said to you and I am sure others will add more.

As to this thread other thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/002904.html

We'll let others be the judge as to your true intent- which is apparant it is an attack on me. "

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Everything you need to know is right there. The fact that you have the nerve to indicate I should not be allowed to bring up a topic, or rather an attack, that you launched on me is perverse at best.

posted November 07, 2006 04:08 PM            

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posted November 07, 2006 04:13 PM              

i will however respond to the accusations and insults. however, these drawn out issues serve only to destroy legitimate topics.

do you have another title for a separate thread juniperb?

posted November 07, 2006 04:20 PM            

In your world you would be at liberty to post what you want and call people bitter, hateful etc.. but should they respond in like, you would have them punished or at least sequestered to a thread you invented on their behalf.

You can squirm you way out of this if you want. I have NO desire to ever give you my e-mail address. I have NO desire to have any private conversation with you on any level, especially after the threads you started.

You have pointed a finger at me, blaming me for all the personal attacks, yet almost EVERYONE here has said something below the belt to others. You just don't like it when you or the rest of the little cry-babies gets it thrown back at them.

I DID entertain the thought of taking up privately with you, but I don't trust you. You would either take my e-mails and post them or you would edit them first.

You underhanded tactics have been exposed by your own doing.

You can't back out of that and I WILL not back down and allow you have stop posting what I want when I want. You are welcome to express your views but you should expect someone to respond.

posted November 07, 2006 04:27 PM              

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naiad / salome,
Did you think starting a new thread titled "the personal issues thread" but attacking only me would change the actual context of your attacks on me? Taking my name out of the title but revolving your posts around me does little deflect your intent.

You are a sick and malicious woman. You started this thread and as well as the other in order to attack me and for that purpose only. You and your little henchwomen that posted attacks on me here have only shown the hate that you harbor inside while you preach your self-righteous BS on thread after thread.

You want to censor people to keep them from adding anything personal, or to be specific, anything YOU don't like to a thread. When someone does it to you, you lash out and act indignant.

I had a right to bring up this thread to Mirandee and Rainbow as they posted here and launched attacks on me in a few other threads. If you don't like it too bad, you shouldn't have started a thread like this in the first place.

You asked me on another thread to prove where people thought this was an attack- well, read what they said to you and I am sure others will add more.

As to this thread other thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/002904.html

We'll let others be the judge as to your true intent- which is apparant it is an attack on me

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here is my last statement about this thread ~

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dear pidaua ~
i am sorry that this thread has engendered this much negativity. i did not intend it to have this effect. i do maintain that the personal issues do not belong in numerous threads the way that they are.

if necessary we perhaps can discuss them privately. if you want to email me about this, Randall will provide you my email address. i have asked him to delete this thread as well. i sincerely hope that we can avoid this unending discussion of personal issues in future threads, and discuss them privately instead.

again, i am very sorry that this thread turned into this. it was not at all my intention, and i offer my sincere apologies for all the discomfort and negativity it caused.

naiad/salome

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dear everyone ~
i did not intend the negativity that this has engendered and i apologize for this.

i am sorry mostly for the negativity that it focused on pidaua. i hope that we can discuss our personal differences in private in the future.

if anyone would like to discuss this further with me, please ask Randall for my email address.

again, i am sorry to everyone here for the negativity i caused with this thread, and i have asked Randall to delete it.

once again, i am really very sorry.
naiad/salome

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i should have suggested that we discuss these personal issues in private email to begin with. sorry again, about this thread.

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i had a legitimate reason for starting this thread. i did not mean it as an attack, and i made a sincere apology for it, and have asked that it be deleted.

if you had been sincere about it being 'water under the bridge' you would not have brought it up. i have suggested repeatedly that you email me about all the personal issues you have. if you choose not to do that, then i will address your concerns in a separate thread in order not to distract from legitimate subjects. i also will divert further responses from this thread, as i agree that your name in the thread is inappropriate.

please see the following thread for further discussion ~

posted November 07, 2006 04:35 PM            

The fact that you then started this one- all revolving around me- continues to prove the kind of person you are.

posted November 07, 2006 04:38 PM              

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Why do you have to post such stupid questions? It's not my fault that you have diarrhea of the keyboard and have to post a dissertation on Eugenics (which of course was copied and then pasted because I daresay you are obviously NOT a molecular biologist are ya now? - but I could be wrong). Your blather was a result of one person that posted "some people shouldn't be allowed to breed".
And before some other duma$$ posts (But I found it to be informative) you stifle it because I am stating MY opinion.

Now, could have held MY tongue (fingers) and not stated how you wasted so much space on some lame a$$ article that had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PRIVATES death, but I didn't. Yet, you felt compelled to pick out the "emotional idealogy" portion of my post (yet did you even get the context of the post itself?)

No wonder people like me try not to deal with people like you. LOL... waste of friggin time.

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Maybe we can get back to the context of this thread - discussing issues with the Army the deaths of the soliders and why it's wrong / right to place the blame on the Military.

If you want to have a HUGE discussion on emotional responses in idealogies and Eugenics I would highly encourage you to start a whole new thread of your own and type to your hearts content. That way, this thread won't be high-jacked with our own personality conflict - then again, I usually ignore threads started by you anyway

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/001960-2.html

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you continually bring up all your personal issues from previous threads, that have no relevance whatsoever to the original topic of the threads. your accusations and personal insults go on for pages.

i suggested we not continue to pollute the numerous global unity threads with these endless personal issues.

posted November 07, 2006 04:43 PM            

You telling me to take a hike- is allowed.

You trying to censor my speech -AINT GONNA HAPPEN.

You can take that Liberal Commie ideology elsewhere because it won't work here.

If you cannot deal with someone telling you where to stick it, well, that is your problem.

Starting a thread b1tching and whining because you can't deal with it and you want other's to make you feel validated by joining in your attack is pathetic.

posted November 07, 2006 04:49 PM              

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You can question my sincerity all you want- but when you opened the door for the likes of Mirandee and Rainbow to feel comfortable enough to start calling me a liar and accusing me of altering articles, you damn right I brought up their participation in that thread.
The fact that you then started this one- all revolving around me- continues to prove the kind of person you are.

It was water under the bridge- now it is just burning that bridge down.

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Rainbow only asked that the chaos be discontinued on that thread. she said nothing about you personally. and Mirandee was the first to suggest that the thread could be perceived as a personal attack because your name was in it. perhaps you should re-read the thread. neither of them however, mentioned the thread in the current post. you did. no one else brought it up. there was absolutely no reason to do so. except to begin the arguments and accusations all over again. which you have successfully done.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/002889.html

if others have pointed out that you frequently lie in your posts, and they have well before any of these threads were begun, it's because you do lie.

posted November 07, 2006 04:52 PM              

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Once again Salome- this site is about free speech.

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one of my oft-repeated thoughts.

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This site is about us stating what we want regarding our opinion. Me telling you that you have keyboard diarrhea is allowed. Me telling you that I think you spam the forum is allowed.

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posted November 07, 2006 04:58 PM            

A forum or message board is an exchange of "personal" ideas. Who are you to now say what personal issues belong and which should be relegated to your appointed "personal issue thread"?

Examples:

"Borger uncritically proclaimed lobbying reform a "very personal issue" for McCain"
http://mediamatters.org/items/200602070010

"Physician-assisted suicide: a very personal issue - Editorial"
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3225/is_n7_v55/ai_19463575

Are you trying to say that we should not be allowed to post what we see as "personal issues" because you don't like it OR did you really mean "I don't like Pidaua personally so I will attack her on a separate thread"?

In actuality you have the personal issue with ME and what I post. Therefore this thread should have been 'My personal issue with Pidaua".

Which still would have been an attack.

You can keep backtracking but so far you just keep posting the same quotes again and again as well as your same rationalization for what you did.