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MysticMelody
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posted June 30, 2006 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, that helps I like it.

I see you already answered the "Squares" question before I asked it.
You know more about Astrology aspects than I do, so I'm using your brain here while I have the chance. I don't fully understand how the squares in my chart affect me. I have a general idea of how they are SUPPOSED to, but I don't really see it, or don't pay enough attention to it.

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posted June 30, 2006 08:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jupiter and Sag are associated with luck, are they not?

But, as for the other possible meaning,
I do not know if it is really luck.

I think "Karma" is often misunderstood.

I think, rather,
Jupiter in Sag suggests that,
either you are an old soul,
or,
you have just completed more in that realm.

Perhaps we dont all take the same classes
in the same order.
I'm not sure.

Then again,
maybe Jup in Sag alone means little
if it is not aspected.
Again, I have no clue.

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posted June 30, 2006 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always see the "struggle" as us moving a little bit away from the Source, and then using our Faith to find/create a connection and Light where there was none before.

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posted June 30, 2006 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"luck" D'oh! hehe Can't believe I missed that! hehe

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posted June 30, 2006 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's opposite Saturn, in Gemini, in the 5th
It's conjunct Neptune less than 2 degrees, Neptune is in Sag too, but in the 10th

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posted June 30, 2006 09:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heart--Shaped Cross..

Amnesia..caused by walking away from GodMOther and Father..and the UNiversal Laws...
what I speak of is simple..you get what you give..
amnesia..an affect of bad choices..
for good choices bring and show Love and Light..Truth

just out of curiousity..did you read Star Signs and Gooberz???

Lots of LOve to YOu
and ALL. ...

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posted July 01, 2006 03:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mystic Melody -

"I always see the "struggle" as us moving a little bit away from the Source, and then using our Faith to find/create a connection and Light where there was none before."

That's true, I think. But, like yin and yang, truth, as it reveals itself to us, is relative. So, while it is true, in a sense, that we move away from source, it is also true that source is leading us (apparently away from itself) to that point where faith can be born. Sometimes, even an inauspicious place (like a manger?) provides the necessary conditions for faith to be born.

I think of struggle as something that exists pretty-much throughout the entire process of approaching God. I dont believe we can turn away from God. I think we follow "the fool's journey" as shown in the Tarot. From this view, there is no real turning away, for, even the apparent turning away is just a simple bend in the road toward heaven.

"We can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth."
- St. Paul the Apostle

Oooo, that Conjunction is awesome!
You've got the sensitivity and mysticism of Neptune
bound up with the philosophy and religious feeling of Jupiter.
And, lest Neptune cloud things too much,
you've got Saturn keeping a close watch.
I love Saturn, lol.
Saturn, especially connected with Jupiter,
brings things into manifestation.
It gives you the seriousness and discipline
to harness those energies into true devotion.
Since its an opposition,
between the 5th and 11th,
this will almost definitely
come about through others.

Oppositions breed objectivity,
so, I would think that wouldnt be
such a bad thing, w/ Saturn and Neptune.


take care,
hsc

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posted July 01, 2006 03:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LotusHeartOne -

I read most of Star Signs
and none of Gooberz.

So, the amnesia,
which is offered as an explaination
for our diconnection to spirit,
is caused by behaviors
which are themselves
indicative of a diconnection from spirit?

I dont understand.

How could we behave in unlawful ways,
unless we had already begun to forget?

How could we turn from the Light,
unless we were already in Darkness?


confoundedly,
hsc


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posted July 01, 2006 07:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heart--Shaped Cross..

I have tomake this short..gotta get to work

immortality..years and years of being on Earth
creation of generations..disputes..adultery..many things happened
in the physical bodies..
the Universal Laws were broken..

Simply..we slowly forgot about God and the Laws..and thought we were superior..leading to ego..and rulership..

which went against the Laws

I'll try to explain better when I get home later..

Lots of LOve to ALL. ...

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posted July 01, 2006 01:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand all of this.

But I dont see how it makes sense
to say that we are free,
if our perception of truth,
or our reception to truth,
has been clouded by the physical realm.

Please try to explain this.

It doesnt appear to be so simple to me.


love and light,
hsc

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posted July 01, 2006 01:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you get what you give..plain and simple
when we came to Earth in the beginning of this last Creation..I believe this to be the Seventh..we had a clean slate
our actions..karma..caused our amnesia..through many incarnations..eventually we became nearly LOST..to the Truth..because of Lies and power and ego. ...

the Truth is "this is the world of illusion"..we are Our Soul..this body a shell..you can have this shell for as long as you want, 1,000 years, or more..through immortality with GOD..that is the Truth..
but the body is just a shell..and on Earth..
with all of our Karma..and gravity..due to bad karma..and hurting MOther Earth and Father Sky
it is very hard to OverCome..OneSelf in this world..the Earth is off it's Axis..we could slip..at any time..causing alot of damage to the planet..

we can re-verse this..go full circle and forgive all..and undertake to do all with ggodness and Love. ...
13 months..28 days a month..364 days a year..the Earth's natural time piece..is also , so very important. ...

hope that helps..Lots Love to ALL. .

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posted July 01, 2006 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"it is also true that source is leading us (apparently away from itself) to that point where faith can be born."

I absolutely agree! It's so nice to hear someone else say that. I feel so weird and alone sometimes with my thoughts. I think that's why I'm a little addicted to this place!
Speaking of "weird" but in an entirely different way...
I have a beautiful young friend, only 18, who loves to listen to me talk about things in my "out there" way. She says she learns more from me in an hour than she learns from each of her classes at college. (How can I NOT like her??? hehehe) She is very responsible for her age and has a beautful faith in God (that I try to uphold while also tearing up some of the "homosexuality is bad" weeds that religious study has taught her) and she loves my daughter. So, we went to the Fair, and took her sister who is 16. We are sitting and chatting away and her sister (think Paris Hilton mixed with a wide-eyed curious 7 year old) says to me, "You think everything is AWESOME!" I missed a beat because I had never really considered how much I say the word, and I could tell she was looking at me with the amusement that I might view a strange elder eccentric, who said "Groovy" a lot!
She likes to say that things are "Hot" so someday a young person will be looking at her in that same way.... hehehe
But, I am relating this because I have seen you use the word a few times too, and it stands out amidst the poetry. Awesome is a beautiful word... actually Groovy is pretty beautiful too...
And I think we may have some aspect that makes me feel more "normal" from reading what you communicate. It's not that you "ground" me... more like you are a neighbor planting a garden right next to my house and garden that is floating around in the atmosphere.
Have a fun day... err... an AWESOME day!

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posted July 01, 2006 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I liked that reply, Lotus And I understand hsc's questions. What you say makes sense, but if the Karma has burdened us so much, and has changed our perception so much... how do we get back to the Forgiveness and Love and Purity when it is difficult to just exist in this atmosphere we have created? We can believe we are powerful spiritual beings, but if all of those years of Karma are really making it difficult, then how to we transcend that difficulty?
Even if I believe one minute that I am a powerful spiritual being... if Karma dictates that the next minute I will be almost over-powered with the negative thoughts and feelings that are our and world's Karma... how do I keep forgiving every minute so as not to create more Karma? And what about those who have become weak and are so lost that they continue to create more and more negative karma every day that far out-weighs any negation of karma that I could affect with even the most strenuous spiritual self-discipline? Are we doomed to fail unless all of those people wake up immediately?
This is what I have always been un-sure of... because I can't believe we are doomed to fail! Why would we be created with imperfections or free will to destroy ourselves, without the knowledge of what it would mean to destroy ourselves? That seems to be a glitch in the program that an All Knowing and All Loving Mother/Father God would not create. This then just creates more questions.
That is why hsc says that it is an individual journey, even though he knows that our actions affect others and the world's karma too.
What you say makes sense too, because the Earth may die... but does that matter? The energy will be re-born just as ours is reborn to a new "shell," right?
So, I guess we have to let go of the shell and just know that our journey will continue regardless of the shell. And the Earth will go on to bigger and better things... or maybe the Earth will go on inside each of us since we are "feeding" off of her, as the plants and animals do.
Hmmm... thanks for the thoughts, Lotus! It will be nice to hear more of your ideas.

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posted July 01, 2006 02:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MysticMelody..thanks

one must just begin with Oneself..and one's actions..with pureness of heart..
you must really want to know GOD and the Truth
I promise..with patience and LOve for ALL..the big picture..and really wanting..
you will SEE..yes we can fall..but also get right back up..there is hope for all..they must want it
Peace on Earth..is possible
a miracle is needed..the One Linda wrote about..
twin-Souls re-Uniting..remembering..and restoring..God's Order..Our Order..
Our Soul Order. ...

ask for the answers..they will surely come..
I am happy..and intune..mOst of the time..constantly conversing with God and the Universe..this is for all equally..your birthright..
you already KNOW..all the answers are within you..trust you..
it's magic..it's super..and it's natural..
plain and simple..
I LOve ALL..

and writing this..makes my heart on fire..it's blazing as I write..
always..so much LOve and Light
to replenish and share and care..

Gosh..I Love you ALL so much
we are all family. ...

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posted July 02, 2006 05:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mystic Melody -


LOL!

I also like to say "amazing" a lot.
I think everything is either
awesome, or amazing.

My friends and I used to call the police "the po".
Then we called them "the poo".
Or "the poo poo".
(You have to pronounce it like
its something very naughty.)
Mostly we just call them "bulls",
like they do in jail.
I find that hilarious.

okay,

hsc

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posted July 02, 2006 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There will be explosions and beautiful lights and divine music tonight


Neighbor gals invited me to a church festival when I took some garbage out I'll take any excuse to lay on a blanket in the grass listening to music... it will be a lovely evening

Hsc... it sounds silly when I try to say "poo poo" in a naughty voice and it also makes me smile.

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posted July 02, 2006 06:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That sounds like fun.
Enjoy!

"Hsc... it sounds silly when I try to say "poo poo" in a naughty voice and it also makes me smile."

LOL. Yes, its impossible to say without smiling.


see you in Pilgrim's Progress,
hsc

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posted June 25, 2008 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this thread is groovy

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Super groovy.

Far out, too.

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posted April 25, 2021 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chanterelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that Emerson was talking about Thoreau in this passage.

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