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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 09, 2015 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Leeloo,

what aboout you?
You want one, too?


sure, please

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posted May 09, 2015 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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HAHA, Venus


Devil - 7 of swords - Empress

Deny it all you want! The cards don`t lie.

Central card 7 of swords, but flanked by Devil and Empress, you are sneaking around, something to hide in terms of your feelings for him.
Had there be different cards around it, I would have said you do not like him (7 of swords highly dependent on surrounding cards). but Devil and Empress?


The whole situation was sneaky and ugly (hello again, Devil). I was very flattered by the attention. But, 7/S + Empress is very much the leftovers, I think. (7/S leaves 2 Swords and Empress is about abundance and... Food! Hence my choice of words.)


3rd person was my close friend. They kept their involvement secret because I was soooo in love with him.


Ceridwen, I edited my previous post.

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posted May 09, 2015 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo,

your attraction to him:

Chariot - King of swords - Ace of Cups

Whatever you feel, you keep it under tight wraps at the moment and strive to be in control of your feelings. However with the Ace of Cups following there will be a strong surge of new emotionalism.
Such a softie for him, no matter how analytical you try to be about it.


His attraction/feelings for you

8 of wands - Queen of Cups - 10 of swords

ouch, that 10 again!

Still here it follows the Queen of Cups.
He feels very attracted to you with the 8 of wands, physically as well as emotionally, but he also dislikes you immensely at the moment, might feel like you have stabbed him in the back.

What I get from that is that he feels severely rejected by you at the moment?

somehow i am not even answering the question, am I?

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posted May 09, 2015 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Leeloo,

your attraction to him:

Chariot - King of swords - Ace of Cups

Whatever you feel, you keep it under tight wraps at the moment and strive to be in control of your feelings. However with the Ace of Cups following there will be a strong surge of new emotionalism.
Such a softie for him, no matter how analytical you try to be about it.


His attraction/feelings for you

8 of wands - Queen of Cups - 10 of swords

ouch, that 10 again!

Still here it follows the Queen of Cups.
He feels very attracted to you with the 8 of wands, physically as well as emotionally, but he also dislikes you immensely at the moment, might feel like you have stabbed him in the back.

What I get from that is that he feels severely rejected by you at the moment?

somehow i am not even answering the question, am I?


yes, pretty conflicting... normally he should see me as the Queen of Cups- the court card here (as type of woman, femininity, not bad considering his court card is the King of Cups) but what do the other two cards mean? that he doesn't like me anymore?

EDIT: it's also my court card, BTW, which is cool, he sees me as I am

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posted May 09, 2015 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he sees you as the Queen of Cups, yes.
And he is conflicted.

8 of wands usually comes up as a strong spark and chemistry for me, Arrows of love they say (though I am not sure about love).
The wands speaking of the strong attraction that is being there, but mentally he is not in a good place about you.

Like his libido is turned on, and his mind is turned off somehow.

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posted May 09, 2015 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
but 10 of swords is one of the drama-cards. There is just too much drama in that, can`t be really taken serious. He is overdramatizing.

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posted May 09, 2015 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri, how he sees you as woman (type) attraction wise

Page of Cups 10 of Wands Judgement
I felt like pulling something on Judgement: King of Pentacles

I think he definitely likes you, with the courtship/liking page opening the spread. 10 of wands could mean a lot of things: strong woman lol an obstacle, difficulty, being burdened with something else. Judgement (a yes card in my deck) tells me you trigger a strong reaction in him, you have a solar vibrant awakening effect. Perhaps also a surprising attraction. With page judgement, I think you are not his usual type, so this was a pleasant surprise. King of pentacles shows physical attraction of the sensual kind, but here it could also mean, in connection with 10 of wands: it's not something I can pursue, I am a "married" man (Judgm/King of Pentacles)

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posted May 09, 2015 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How you see him, his type

Lovers Strength Tower

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posted May 09, 2015 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
The whole situation was sneaky and ugly (hello again, Devil). I was very flattered by the attention. But, 7/S + Empress is very much the leftovers, I think. (7/S leaves 2 Swords and Empress is about abundance and... Food! Hence my choice of words.)


3rd person was my close friend. They kept their involvement secret because I was soooo in love with him.


Ceridwen, I edited my previous post.


I am very sorry

To the question: how he perceived you as a woman, your type, attraction wise

Ace of Wands Ace of Cups 7 of swords

With these cards he was attracted to you (physically and emotionally) in a blatant manner; straightforward cards. perhaps had a strong visible reaction when you first met. he liked you and your type. But there was also something not quite right or hidden about it...perhaps the situation you describe; I pulled on 7 of sw to understand what the problem was: Queen of Pentacles; someone else or perhaps he secretly wanted to secure you (or have a physical relationship with you), but something prevented that. Chances are he saw you as the QoP as well, which is a sensual, classical body woman (are you like this?0 or something familiar as type, something classical

How you saw him:

Queen of pentacles (again) Judgment Moon

ha definitely in love as you say perhaps for the first time? Queen of pentacles shows both how you perceived him physically, how you wanted to be with him and also the other woman situation, I presume, the gf.
very strong feelings with Judgment Moon, surfacing from the unconscious, sometimes able to drive you mad, also alluring, fascinating guy, like a dream, a fantasy. It also shows the revelation of a painful truth, something hidden, something shattered (Judgment Moon in relation to the Queen). I'm truly sorry for your experience

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posted May 09, 2015 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I think he sees you as the Queen of Cups, yes.
And he is conflicted.

8 of wands usually comes up as a strong spark and chemistry for me, Arrows of love they say (though I am not sure about love).
The wands speaking of the strong attraction that is being there, but mentally he is not in a good place about you.

Like his libido is turned on, and his mind is turned off somehow.


Hm I'm not sure about this, the libido/mind thing...QoC is usually the Queen of Hearts, the woman in the heart, so perhaps in the context 8 of wands/10 of sw could indicate intense pain about it. Since I told him he is dead to me, he thinks I am forever lost. I was hoping you would pick on how he sees me in general, as a woman (in a relaxed situation) but I think the spread itself shows you are picking on the current situation (8 of wands)...tarot is awesome indeed.

EDIT: with 8 of wands + 10 of sw it could be something like: "I can't even stand to think of this Q right now." (although, most likely, there is a constant thought flow about it)

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posted May 09, 2015 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Such a softie for him, no matter how analytical you try to be about it.



True, I'm busted Chapeau, Ceri! awesome spread and interpretation.

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posted May 09, 2015 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
How you see him, his type

Lovers Strength Tower


not fair.

He is tall though, and energetic and talking a bit much. lol

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posted May 09, 2015 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Ceri, how he sees you as woman (type) attraction wise

Page of Cups 10 of Wands Judgement
I felt like pulling something on Judgement: King of Pentacles

I think he definitely likes you, with the courtship/liking page opening the spread. 10 of wands could mean a lot of things: strong woman lol an obstacle, difficulty, being burdened with something else. Judgement (a yes card in my deck) tells me you trigger a strong reaction in him, you have a solar vibrant awakening effect. Perhaps also a surprising attraction. With page judgement, I think you are not his usual type, so this was a pleasant surprise. King of pentacles shows physical attraction of the sensual kind, but here it could also mean, in connection with 10 of wands: it's not something I can pursue, I am a "married" man (Judgm/King of Pentacles)


I view Judgement as positive, too. And yes, your interpretation makes a lot of sense.

Surprise, yes, was a surprise to me as well, both my attraction to him, too. I wasn`t sure if I was even attracted for many years. There was just *something* I couldn`t quite put my finger on. lol


As for surprised by him liking me, I think I can even pinpoint the exact moment(s) it happened. On two days, in the same week. While I do think there was *something* rumbling underneath for both of us before, those moments stood out. like being struck by a sudden awareness.
Well for him that meant on the second occasion that he was pretty messed up for several mintues after that, including forgetting to sing (the chorus), just sitting on a chair on stage and looking at me, or into my direction, and then messing up the lyrics of a song as well, and so on. Took quite a while to get balanced again.
I am not sure I actually have found back my balance though.
He tends to mess this up regularly as well.

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posted May 09, 2015 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay, let`s try it again then, the both of us.

How does he see you as a woman?

Ace of Swords - Tower - King of Swords

Very strong mentality, determined, decisive, master (or domina? ) of your mind, very much in control, but maybe also overwhelming and dominating.
Someone who is shaking up things, who is uprooting things, including him and his life probably.

And tall and slim probably. lol

BTW the 10 of swords is very resonant with "you are dead to me"

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posted May 09, 2015 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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not fair.

He is tall though, and energetic and talking a bit much. lol


Nah, he is totally your type, stop BSing

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posted May 09, 2015 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that was the moment of the first day

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that was the second day, well the moment of awareness happened about 1-1,5 hours before, but that was some culmination point

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posted May 09, 2015 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Nah, he is totally your type, stop BSing

nope he isn`t. He just drives me nuts, that`s all.

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posted May 09, 2015 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And apparently I am "the vision who was not quite real". Yeah thank you very much!

And apparently "it feels like a dream without a sense. ... Running a road that never ends."

And all because apparently he "couldn`t read my smile." and then I apparently "just left without a trace".

But then "for a good reason" he "could never stop" himself "from passing by."

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posted May 09, 2015 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
okay, let`s try it again then, the both of us.

How does he see you as a woman?

Ace of Swords - Tower - King of Swords

Very strong mentality, determined, decisive, master (or domina? ) of your mind, very much in control, but maybe also overwhelming and dominating.
Someone who is shaking up things, who is uprooting things, including him and his life probably.

And tall and slim probably. lol

BTW the 10 of swords is very resonant with "you are dead to me"


well, he needs glasses then.
first of all, he sees me as a man, so he needs serious glasses
he sees me as a warrior king, a hero, Che Guevara

I am slim, but with curves....and petite
OK good to see I am life shattering hahahaha
He clearly doesn't like me

Nah, just kidding, I don't think it's entirely true

Ok I asked myself how he sees me as a woman, physically, my type

10 of Cups Tower Lovers
World on Tower
hahahaha hilarious!

Voila! That's the truth
See? It's not that bad!

How about you ask yourself how he sees you, what do you get?

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posted May 09, 2015 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I am very sorry

To the question: how he perceived you as a woman, your type, attraction wise

Ace of Wands Ace of Cups 7 of swords

With these cards he was attracted to you (physically and emotionally) in a blatant manner; straightforward cards. perhaps had a strong visible reaction when you first met. he liked you and your type. But there was also something not quite right or hidden about it...perhaps the situation you describe; I pulled on 7 of sw to understand what the problem was: Queen of Pentacles; someone else or perhaps he secretly wanted to secure you (or have a physical relationship with you), but something prevented that. Chances are he saw you as the QoP as well, which is a sensual, classical body woman (are you like this?0 or something familiar as type, something classical

How you saw him:

Queen of pentacles (again) Judgment Moon

ha definitely in love as you say perhaps for the first time? Queen of pentacles shows both how you perceived him physically, how you wanted to be with him and also the other woman situation, I presume, the gf.
very strong feelings with Judgment Moon, surfacing from the unconscious, sometimes able to drive you mad, also alluring, fascinating guy, like a dream, a fantasy. It also shows the revelation of a painful truth, something hidden, something shattered (Judgment Moon in relation to the Queen). I'm truly sorry for your experience


Goodness, no! Don't be sorry! It's a silly thing, I giggle at the thought! But, back then.... When we were so young, it was ugly (the drama of 18-year olds; I thought that a young romance is conducive to fun tarot session!). It resulted in me breaking off the friendship with the 2 of them - it was a good call, the history will come to say.

The friend must be Q/P (clarification on 7/S), not me, I am not curvaceous. But, for the 2nd spread's sake, maybe I was - physical positive reaction to him (Q/P + XX) and general allure in that direction (Moon).

What made me curious about him is when a different friend of mine (lol) was also fancying him. However, she didn't do anything about that because according to her, his eyes lit up every time he spoke to me and it was obvious that he was into me.

In short, I think we can agree he was into me more than I was into him, which is the whole point of my asking.

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posted May 09, 2015 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In short, I think we can agree he was into me more than I was into him, which is the whole point of my asking.


Absolutely!

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posted May 09, 2015 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, you girls are playing?

May i join?

But LeeLoo, i think i did that kind of spread already for PM, didn't i?
Whatever, i can do it again

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posted May 09, 2015 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's what I am about to do; we did it already, so I'm doing a summary which is something very interesting IMO.

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posted May 09, 2015 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
That's what I am about to do; we did it already, so I'm doing a summary which is something very interesting IMO.

a summary? how? Yeah, please go ahead
Show how you do it and I'll copy it

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posted May 09, 2015 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, what I mean is we already pulled cards for that and this is the summary.

For Ceri:

how MR Sag sees her as a woman

I pulled: Moon King of Cups Ace of Wands

Enneline said: King of pentacles & queen of swords

Tgem said: What does P like best about Ceri?
Lily-cross-man
He loves your eyes..that goes along with the post before about him liking you in glasses. You bring a sense of peace and purity..a calming feeling to him and a look of wisdom


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