posted August 29, 2002 12:24 PM            

But I will tell you that I do not trust the Vatican one single bit. If the Vatican is involved in the common understanding of the Second Coming, it will be only on the side of the anti-christ. I hope I offended no one with that, and it is just my opinion.

posted August 29, 2002 06:18 PM              

We shouldn't confound between clerical behavior and Christians of the 1st century. Furthermore, even Jesus and his followers warned about those circumstances, when they said: "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves"; "I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock"(Matthew 7:15; Acts 20:29).

We know those words were true. So, the Bible is a source of teaching to trust. Until when will the churches be in charge here? If God really exists, why has He permitted a lot of centuries of blood, crimes and misuses? My opinion is that God does exist and the Bible (His word) answers all those questions.

Have you seen the X-files?
No, X-files, 'the truth is not out there', but in the Book.

posted August 30, 2002 10:27 AM              

Jesus was a great teacher, even his enemies knew that (John 11:47,48). So, Remember his words in Matthew 13:15). It's not necessary to complicate the situation. My best wishes for you.

posted August 31, 2002 06:11 PM            

I am certain of the inner symbology of the Second Coming, but there does seem to be a physical manifestation to it as well, or so it feels. There is much, even esoterically, that points to an actual, physical second coming in line with the biblical accounts (kind of), but perhaps not quite as dramatic as the Revelations portray, at least in Christian thinking.

But there is much conflicting information as well. Or at least seemingly contradictory.

And this is where the Vatican rears its ugly head. I believe that the Vatican withholds so much of the truth that it cannot be known by the general public. I believe the original Knights Templar had information concerning the true bloodline of Jesus, as well as other, very important information and artifacts. All of these things ran/run contrary to the basic premise of the Vatican itself, and threaten its very existance.

To this day I belive there is a very secret war going on behind the scenes, and the Vatican is ever so involved in it, and I do not like the side that it seems to be standing on.

Anyway .... it is all very confusing!!

posted September 02, 2002 02:46 PM            

The False Prophet

In Revelation 13:11-18 we are introduced to this infamous character. This person, who is called the second beast, is going to be a Jew. Many believe he will be from the tribe of Dan, which is one of the tribes of the original progenitors of the nation of Israel.

The False PRophet (he is called that in Revelation 19:20 and 20:10) will be a master of satanic magic. This future False Prophet is going to be a devilish John the Baptist.
He will aid and glorify this Roman Dictator,(who is the anti-christ);he will proclaim him the savior of the world and make people worship him as God.

We believe that the dramatic elements which are occuring in the world today are setting the stage for this magnetic, diabolical Future Fueherer to make his entrance. However, we must not indulge in speculation about whether any of the current world fiqures is the Antichrist. He will not be known until his sudden miraculous recovery from a fatal wound.

The Second coming

When Jesus came the first time it was not to judge the world but to save it. He came as the Lamb of God who gave His life to take away the sin of the world. The one thing that God has established for man to do is to believe in His Son as Savior. When Jesus returns the second time it will be as a lion to judge those who rejected the free gift of salvation from sin. Man will have completely demonstrated his worthiness of judgment.

According to Zechariah, "all nations will be gathered against Jerusalem to battle."" The Jews who live in the area will be on the verge of anniahilation when God gives them supernatural strength to fight. Then the Lord will go forth to fight for them and save them.

Jesus' feet will first touch the earth where they left the earth on the Mount of Olives. The mountain will split in two with a great earthquake the instant that Jesus'foot touches it. The giant crevice which results will run east and west trough the center of the mountain. It will go east to the north tip of the Dead Sea and west to the Mediterranean Sea(Zechariah 14). Seismic studies of this area ,in quest of oil, discovered a gigantic fault running east and west precisely through the center of the Mount of Olives. The fault is so severe that it could split at any time. It is awaiting "the foot".

Zechariah predicts a strange thing with regard to the ensuing split in the earth. The believing Jewish remnant in Jerusalem will rush into the crack instead of doing the natural thing of running from it. They will know this prophecy and realize that this great cavern has opened up for the Lord to protect them from the terrible devastation that He is about to pour out upon the godless armies all around. It will be used as a type of bomb shelter.

The nature of the forces which the Lord will unleash on that day against the armies gathered in the Middle East is described in Zechariah 14:12. "And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consueme away in their mouth". (KJV)

A frightening picture isn't it? Has it occurred to you that this is exactly what happens to those who are in a thermonuclear blast? It appears that this will be the case at the return of Christ. (Hal Lindsey Author)

posted September 02, 2002 05:42 PM            

Precisely, again! Suggestions of some cataclysm - in the mid-east - at the return of a physical christ.

posted September 05, 2002 12:36 PM            

This does not necessarily negate a connection with current space-time, as it is more than likely a cycle in the evolution of Man. Quite necessary.

But still confusing!