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angelica
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posted May 26, 2004 03:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi I'm very curious if anybody knows how to go back in time? Has anybody achived a little time travel at all???

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posted May 26, 2004 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well sure. Since time is an illusion and everything is actually happening at once, all you need to do is focus on the spot in the great circle of life where you want to be and project yourself there. Try it while astral traveling. It works great.

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posted May 26, 2004 04:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for responding!

I've tried that but it doesn't work, have you done it?

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posted May 26, 2004 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. Just keep trying. The thing is, you don't "try" by concentrating with your frontal lobe. Push it to the occipital lobe (the back of your mind) and it will work. I don't know if you meditate, but that is really the place to start. By the way...welcome to Lindaland. I don't think I've spoken with you before. Does the name Angelica come from the herb? I use it all the time.

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posted May 26, 2004 10:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astral travel is one way that time travel is possible (^_^).


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posted May 27, 2004 12:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FishKitten I supected it was something like what you said but the only time I can do that is when I don't try or when I don't think about it. But that's hard to do when you really want to accomplish this, you almost have to forget. (I'm going to sleep now I will try tonight)

I don't meditate except for thinking and getting information. Can you tell me how to push it to the occipital lobe.

This kind of time travel is an astral time travel can you share your experience with me? Do you go back in time to certain events?

I don't know the origins of my name I just like it alot, and the vibration is right for me. I guess it's origins come from the angels. What do you use the herb for?

Yes I believe we've never spoken before, and it is my honor!


Hi Sugarlightning -
What is the other way?

Jules*** also intrigued

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posted May 27, 2004 09:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RE: angelica: This kind of time travel is an astral time travel can you share your experience with me? Do you go back in time to certain events?

What is the other way?

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Hi Angelica, astral travel can happen when you achieve a meditative state, sometimes even when your not trying to it could happen. When your feeling dreamy about something in your past or just in a particularly relaxed state, listening to nature sounds could trigger it. It's possible then that thoughts could begin to spiral into visions of the past or events of the future. I've had experiences of travelling to Egypt... I saw myself standing before the Pyramids in a white gown, I could see the heat rising up from the sand and moving across it like mirrors created by the heat. I was drawn away from them to a big Sun but it was white not like the Sun we see in the daytime. Linda Goodman speaks of a way in which one masters the body as light, then physical as well as astral travel can happen simultaneously. I would rather wait until someone with experience teaches me how do that other than trying it on my own lol(^_-).


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posted May 27, 2004 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I want to push a thought or request to my occipital lobe, I first think and concentrate on it in the regular front-of-the-mind sort of way. Once it is firmly established in my brain, I quickly change my front-of-the-mind concentration to something else (preferably something that involves both numbers and pictures, as that uses both left and right sides of the brain...I often start trying to figure out the square footage of rooms in a fictional house plan because it is easy to visualize). Then I move on to a meditative state much like I described to Dafremen in the "5 Questions" thread.

As for my experiences...there are just so many. I have gone back to specific events, though not always to events that are well known by the general public. (I'm an Archaeologist, so my interests tend to be somewhat eclectic.) One trip that always sticks out in my mind was one to visit the Albigenses and speak with certain of their perfecti. They were a marvelous group with some understanding of the natural and spiritual worlds that were far different from most lines of thought in the 12th century. The reasons for and manner of their deaths had always haunted me.

The root of the Angelica herb has strong healing properties when prepared correctly. I use it quite often. When combined in a tea with the proper amounts of rose hip, spearmint, chamomile, burdock root, cayenne, elder flower, and heal-all, it can knock out the common cold in 24 hours. I always use fresh herbs and make my own preparations. I wouldn't recommend taking premixed over-the-counter herbs becuase you just don't know if they have been prepared correctly and at the proper concentration. Angelica is so named because the ancients thought it was given to mankind by the angels to use as a healing element. Perhaps since you are so drawn to the name, you have something of the healer in you as well.

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posted May 27, 2004 02:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont think I will want to go back in time unless it is to remember an important event or issue to make it clearer to yourself.In case you 'forgot' something which may be important.

Talking about time travel,Would it not be possible to travel to the future? In the way you guys speak of travelling here on this post?

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posted May 27, 2004 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Future, past and present are all one, so yes, you can go any direction on the circle of life that you want.

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tahariel
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posted May 27, 2004 07:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We live in the eternal now !
How about changing the past ? I've read about it, not tried it yet.

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posted May 27, 2004 07:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tahariel and every1!

I think it was in Star signs that Linda referred to us walking old paths again- or the Sage did.. I'm not sure about changing the past.. but how would we know??

Have you read Chariots of the Gods? Interesting theory about time and 'spacemen'!

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posted May 28, 2004 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now, if we could only find that "Wrinkle In Time," it would be so much easier for us all. (One of my favorite childhood books)

To paraphrase others, and hopefully do them some justice, about the illusion of time:

The first dimension is The Line.
The second dimension is The Square.
The third dimension is The Box.

Our limited concept of Time is a Line, that consumes itself. It is barely one-dimensional, while we all live in a three-dimensional world.

FishKitten, someday, I would love it if you began a thread about your travels and experiences, if the spirit should so move you do so.

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angelica
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posted May 30, 2004 01:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sugarlightening; what an amazing experience!

FishKitten
Yes I've always been drawn to healing but never yet developed my abilities to heal. It's amazing I chose this name.

So one of your experiences was going back to the 12 century and you had the opportunity to speak with a perfecti, what did you learn?
Was this in a physical state?


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I have not read Chariots of the Gods but heard of the book alot, can you tell us a little bit about it?

All your experiences are so amazing, has any of these experiences been physically going back in time? My purpose would be also to change the past.

There's one thing I know for sure, that my body knows the future because I have so many circumstances that show my body was aware in advance and I look back and than I realize it knew the future already.

Gotta save the world

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posted May 31, 2004 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Angelica...you asked if my experiences with the Albigenses were in the physical state. I have been thinking how best to answer that without confusing matters. The best answer I can come up with is sort of. It was physical in that I was there and could touch things and communicate with people...yet it was not physical like the waking world of right now. I was very aware that my body was made of electrons circling nuclei. I felt like I was made of light (which, technically, we all are at all times). Since time is an illusion, I tend to think of these experiences as astral travel more than time travel...sort of like bi-location. Sometimes it doesn't seem very physical, more like a projection of myself (like a movie image) into the situation I want to view. But if one needs to talk to people, one needs to become more corporeal. To do that you have to slow down your vibratory rate a touch. I have "come back" to real time with physical evidence of my trip on occasion. Once I had dirt all over my hands. Occasionally I have bruises. (Just can't seem to lose my taste for digging and exploring.) Frequently when I return to the conscious now, there is evidence around my house of my travels. All the TV screens in the house glow for an hour or two afterward. My crystals tend to glow a bit as well. Clocks and other timepieces go nuts. In fact, I can't wear a watch at all even if I'm not astral travelling because I drive them crazy within a few days. They go slow, then fast, then backward, etc. I took the battery out of one watch and continued to wear it. The hands still moved, but like when the battery was in, you could never predict whether it would be going forward or backward and at what speed. I finally gave up and quit wearing them about 15 years ago. My Cappy man makes sure to leave his watch in the bathroom at night because if he puts it by the bed, my energy freaks it out. His last one only lasted a week on the bedside table (on his side of the bed) before it went wild.

What I learned from the Perfecti of the Albigenses...
They submitted to the atrocities that came their way because it was the only way to insure their message would survive and reach the appropriate people when they needed it. They were treated very brutally. I don't want to describe what happened because it was just so horrible. I always wanted to know why they didn't escape before the soldiers of the inquisition came. I learned that escaping your "fate" often means avoiding the reasons that you came to a particular incarnation in the first place. That means you will just have to face those challenges in some other incarnation, so you might as well go ahead bite the bullet and do what you are here to do.

And I learned not to go around trying to change the past and save the world. The world IS saved. In one of his posts Dafremen compared waking life to a movie. Using that analogy (and remembering that all time happens at once...there is no actual past or future) it is kind of like we are watching the movie of the great "what if". What if the world became what it is today. What would happen and how would that serve the LIGHT? I (and many others) am here to witness how the issues that arose were / are resolved. How is the illusion of time and seperation from the one useful to creation as a whole? Why did it have to be this way? Life, as we observe it, contains all the answers. Our challenge is to keep asking the questions. Either way, life isn't a test, it is a field trip. We are here to learn and understand. So enjoy and don't get too caught up in controlling things. Lots of times when we think we are helping, we are actually just putting off the lessons that are needed. Challenges bring growth.

About Chariots of the Gods...cool pictures, but von Daniken ignores or misrepresents too much archaeological evidence. Some things that are represented as mysteries are not really so mysterious.

Linda Goodman figured out some things, though, even without the scientific evidence that I have seen. She was the first one I know of to propose a much earlier date for construction of Stonehenge. As it turns out, it was made thousands of years before the druids even existed. They used it, sure, as well as many of the other megalithic monuments, but they didn't build it. They found it already there.

Trillian...I don't mind talking about my travels and experiences, but where to start?

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Fishy ~ thank you for the little story about the Albigenses. I have wondered about their whys and wherefores for a long time.

I read recently something from the Catholic church regarding the Cathar sects. Pope Innocent III said that they were "worse than the Saracens". This was my favorite though, "Ecclesiastical authority, after persuasion had failed, adapted a course of severe repression, which led at times to regretabble excess." Regrettable excess.

A thread? Heck, how about a book? But in the meantime, you could try out your stories here at LL with us. As for the "where to start" question, the begining is usually a fine place. I'm ready to find a warm spot by the fire and settle in for a good yarn.

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posted May 31, 2004 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tink, you are such a sweetheart! Thanks for the good vibes you always send out.

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posted May 31, 2004 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FishKitten, I'll just echo Tink, and say that wherever you'd like to begin is fine with me. I suspect you have some interesting stories to tell. If and when you begin a thread, I'm sure it will take on a life and passion of its own, with interaction from those of us who will be fascinated and intrigued.

By any chance, were you born in the afternoon, with the sun high in your chart?

Oh, let me echo Tink on another matter: a book is an excellent idea.

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posted May 31, 2004 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was born at 5:52 pm on February 20th as a full moon in Leo rose across the plains and Pluto came out to play.

Thank you for the encouragement. I do love to write and I've just been handed a wonderful chunk of writing time. I've been wishing for it for a while now.

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Wow FishKitten where to start! Well you're right about saving the world, it's me I have to save, but at the same time I still have that deep feeling.

When I posted this question I never expected anyone to even answer I can't believe what I'm reading.

FishKitten can you go back anytime you want?
And can you go back to an event in your life and make a change have you ever done that?

When you were saying that you have to face your fate I think that sometimes the person just went off their path and into more danger. But they were never suppose to experience that extreme hardship. As an example we say a lady is abused and than thrown out of her parents home and goes on the streets and lets say she takes the path of a prostitute and from there on it only gets worse. Lets say she decides to commit suicide so she doesn't have to suffer. I think she wasn't suppose to go to that extreme and learn that abuse but maybe in her next life just to try again to be stronger and take care of herself. What you're saying is that she at one point had to experience this, so it's best to just face it. I'm really asking your opinion because I value what you have to say. And this is a question I've been wondering about. Just to be clear I think that she was just suppose to learn to stand up for herself and listen to her feelings to remain on her path, and maybe by taking her life, the next time around she might get it right without suffering so much.

Have you ever talked to people that you knew, friends?

All I can say is in my heart I need and want to go back in time. My heart truely desires this.

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posted June 01, 2004 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FishKitten, have you by any chance seen the Wands of Horus thread lying around? The page said the pyramid has opened an astral door recently. Have you tried to look inside it?

Dean.

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posted June 01, 2004 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dean...that gave me a good chuckle. Funnily enough, I have used this type of travel to help with archaeological finds. Recently I was with a crew of archaeologists who were searching for the location of an ancient village. We knew that it was located in a general area about 6,000 years ago. That night in my tent, I did a bit of astral/time travel to see where the people were staying back then. (Wow, did that place look different during the marine incursion and before the thick forests began to grow.) I saw where the ancient post-Pleistocene beach once was and where the people were living nearby. The next day as everyone was discussing where on the mapped grid to start putting in test pits, I walked over to a spot that I recognized and said, "I'm going to dig here. This is where the tool maker worked." A couple of people whom I had never worked with before kind of laughed under their breath. The man in charge of the exploration was someone I had worked with many times. He said, "Don't laugh. This woman is like an artifact dowsing rod. Hold her up and she'll find a site every time." Sure enough, I found the first obsidian bi-face within minutes. The spot I picked was the exact place where a tool maker worked. I found thousands of stone tools in various stages of production. It also turned out to be the centre of the village. As for pyramids and the Wands of Horus...I don't remember the thread you are talking about, but I've poked around a bit on my own. The Wands many people think of were metal rods filled with various substances that were thought to be magical. These were actually just props to help illustrate certain concepts to the minds of beginning initiates. The true secret lies in the information provided, not in the tools used as mnemonic devices. The real Wand of Horus is knowledge of the nature of existence. Once we discover that knowledge, we find that we had all kinds of cool abilities all along. I don't know about new doors having been recently opened in pyramids. (Which you'd think I would hear about. I have a friend who runs digs and expiditions in Egypt every year. She is a university professor, but looks for all the world like she stepped off the side of a papyrus.) I have looked around pyramids in astral form, however, and have seen lots of stuff that has yet to be "discovered". The thing is, the information that turns up from time to time in ancient documents all contains the same thread of truth and knowledge, just phrased slightly differently. No one has to wait for further discoveries of ancient texts to learn the secrets of the universe. It is all out there now just waiting to be explored.

Angelica....yes you can go to any time you want. I have gone back to contact myself. I tried it after reading a Richard Bach book where he did something similar. It worked like a charm. I went back to a particularly hideous and horrible time when I was 9 years old and told myself not to worry, that I would grow up and leave my abusive family and Oklahoma far behind one day and live in the beautiful mountains of British Columbia where I would learn science and hang out with lots of animals. I remember when I was 9 and that message came to me lying in the grass of the front yard. I know now that I sent it to myself to help me get through a bad time. It was great. From then on, when I felt sad or afraid, I remembered that one day I would escape. I even told my mother what was going to happen when I grew up, but she laughed and said I was just a stupid kid and when I grew up I'd live right there in Oklahoma and have a "normal" life like everyone else. There was no escape, she said, and one day I would forget all that nonsense. I haven't been back or seen those people in many years and I just love the mountains and all the animals I hang out with. Self-fulfilling prophecies are the greatest.

So, yes, you can go back and influence your own life. A work of caution however...don't try to go back and change things only for financial gain. Like, you can't just go back to the early 1980's and tell yourself to buy Microsoft stock. When you try to use the secrets of the ineffible solely to make money, things tend to go astray in ways you hadn't imagined. Also, it is unwise to attempt to change someone else's fate. You may think you are helping, but chances are, you aren't. The only thing in life we can or should really control is ourselves. You are quite young in your current incarnation. If you want to change the path of your life, look to changing what will be rather than what has been. A very wise old magi once told me that a person shouldn't even begin studying the Quabala until he or she is at least 40 years old. Prior to that time, we are meant to love, to have and raise kids, to laugh and dance with the joys of youth. That is not to say you should not seek truth and knowledge...just be patient. Learn to control your own mind and body before you start trying to control the world. I found out long ago that we can't simply demand what we want from the universe and expect it to materialize the next day. Manifestation takes time (and practice). If you really want and need to go back in time, the opportunity will eventually present itself. Be patient and keep trying.

As for the example of the girl who was thrown out by her family, went into prostitution, and finally committed suicide...It is not for me to say what her lesson was to have been, but perhaps she was supposed to realise that even during the hardest times, we have choices. We do not have to prostitute ourselves. She chose the path which eventually led to her suicide. Let us hope that next time around, if she is again thrown out by her parents, she will start walking until the streets of the city are far behind. Perhaps as she walks, she will think of a better way to survive. Maybe she will find work in a small town and get her life together, go back to school, become a counsellor, and save other young girls who are on the verge of giving up and turning to the streets to sell themselves. Or maybe she learned what she needed to on the streets and simply moved on to a better, happier life. I don't have all the answers. I have learned to ask lots of questions, though. Why do you feel you must return to the past? Are you hoping to save someone? Do you have a friend who met with tragic circumstances?

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Wow FishKitten, your words fill me with awe... One of the things that intrigued me about the site concerning the Wands of Horus (it's down the page http://www.wands.info/ ) is the mention of Edgar Cayce. It claims that he said a door will be opened at the turn of the millenium. The page says the door was locked and protected, but is now open (though I think still protrected). If I could astral travel (or had the inclination) I'd definititely check it out. I believe it also correlates with what Linda said about the pyramid under the pyramid (creating the 4). What if the inverted pyramid she speaks of is completely astral but re-versed to re-ality ( ) I mean, the Kings chamber is their the same distance and dimensions as above. My point is that this pyramid cannot be excplored via archeology, but via the astral realm - maybe using the Wands of Horus as an aid. Maybe when I turn 40 I'll try to learn to astral travel and try it. I think I may have almost did it in the past, but it freaked me out. I definitely think "age" could be important. Maybe wisdom is a better word.

Another question I have concerns Fabled Atlantis. You probably get this all the time, but what have you learnt here? Cayce said it would (and has) been discovered around 1968-69 and that it'd take a further hundred or so years to surface. I keep thinking Atlantis is falling out of the lime light regarding people wanting to explore it.

OK, two more questions. Have you read Fingerprints of the Gods? It describes a theory called Earth Displacement which could solve many questions like Siberia, Minnesota, Antarctica - and maybe in particular Atlantis. He claims that Atlantis could be Antarctica when it was much furhter North, and due to displacement, has it's current position.

Last question (for now): Could you possibly jump into the future to December 23rd 2012 and see what might happen? I don't know if we're set for another displacement or what, but I'd love to see if you could see anything.

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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posted June 01, 2004 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Dean. Age actually does help. I tried some things before I was ready and found that even though I could make leaps, I had no control (kind of like Spiderman at the beginning of the movie). Also I kept getting sucked into the electirc grid in various places, but that is a different story. I got kind of freaked out at first as well. I agree taht some of the mysteies of the pyramids may be better explored via astral or spiritual means. If you study the ancient Hebrew alphabet and the 72 names of God, ou see that there are written arangements of figures that act as mnemonic devices much like the fabled Wands of Horus. No reason to think the Egyptians didn't use similar glyphs in their important buildings and writings. I love all the connections between the pyramids and the astro-archaeological position of Orion 5000 amd 10,000 years ago.

Atlantis...most archaeologists agree that it is Satorini (Thera) off the coast of Greece. The evidence is pretty convincing and the timing with what has been uncovered and what is suspected to exist still buried coincides fairly reasonably with Cayce. There is still people who support the theory of the Bimini road being Atlantis, but I think it is from a different culture, perhaps pre-Olmec. People are still interested in Atlantis, but archaeologists have to be careful to include lots of scientific reasons to study it along with the mythological ones if they are going to be taken seriously by the sientific community. That can be kind of limiting, but can also help us to be clear about which things we actually know and which we only suspect.

I have read lots of Graham Hancock stuff. As I was just saying, it is important to separate what we know from what we believe. Mr. Hancock brings up some good points, but his archaeology is weak. He only gives part of the known information on his subjects and doesn't mention things that either disprove his theories or that give information that leads to different conclusions. Still, he gets a lot of people to ask questions and search for answers, so I'm totally for that. Sometimes starting people on a quest is more important than providing them with all the answers.

I'll see what I can ascertain about Dec. 23, 2012, but my immediate gut reaction is that it won't hit, they only think it will.

If you are interested Dean, you might want to check out the Nexus and Plexus thread. We are talking about some of these same concepts.

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