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SunChild
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posted August 09, 2004 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
I invited my little sister over with 2 of her young friends. I enjoy spending time with the younger generation and our future.Since I left school I dont have many friends around that I associate with alot. And I mainly spend time with my sister and her friends, but we never got into these sorts of discussions before, because I thought they wouldnt be interested. And infact, they are. And they are very interesting. The subject of dreams came up and because I have a little knowledge of what some dreams mean they all got kind of keen to ask me about their dreams. I wish I could remember the whole converstation, but

I'll write in brief what I remember.
My sister asked me what astral travel was as she heard it somewhere so I explained it briefly and simply to them.
Billy, Isabell & Sarah were sitting around the table with me.
Sarah said "well I normally do that when Im bored."
I replied "what do you mean? tell me what you do"
Sarah said "when Im at home not doing much, and I feel like a nap, I just think of where I want to go, I close my eyes and I'm really there! like a dream but I can move and do what I want"
I said "so you have complete control during the dream? is it colour? and can you go anywhere you want?"
Sarah replied with "yeah I can do anything, and its full colour, ive never had a black and white dream, and I can go anywhere, and also use my mind to change things, and make things happen"
Billy interrupted with "Yeah I do that too, I thought that was normal!"
I said "and you too isabelle?"
Isabelle replied "I dont have any control over my dreams, and I hardly remember them"
"fair enough" I said.
Isabelle is the oldest out of the 3.
I said to sarah "Do you normally remember your dreams? and do you have nightmares?"
She said "I remember all my dreams, and I've only had one nightmare"
I asked "when did you have that nightmare, and why do you think you had it?"
She replied "it was when I first discoverd i could walk around and do anything I liked in my dreams"
I said "you must have manifested a nightmare because it was all new and scary"
"Yeah" she said.
I asked my sister, Billy "how often do you do this? do you dream/ travel like this every night?"
"yeah" she said. "its so cool"
" I bet" I said
I asked billy and sarah "what else do you do? can you give me more details into what you do in your dreams?"
sarah said "i sometimes visit people, but I normally go to places, and go on trains, hang out with friends, make cars apear so we can ride to places , and stuff like that"
"Billy?" I asked...
she replied with "I fly around and sometimes I visit people too, but some people i can't find, but I normally bump into people I want to see any way"
I asked "and are your dreams in colour too?
"yep" she said.
"why are you so suprised?" Sarah asked
" I think its wonderful that you can do this, its a wonderful gift you both have"
"COOL!!" they said....

Isabelle has some psychic gifts which I will explain later when I have more time.
I want giving them some information about dreams and astral travelling for the future. If anyone knows a good book, website, or information please let me know.
thanks.


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"Almost always it is the fear of being ourselves that brings us to the mirror." -Antonio Porchia

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quiksilver
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posted August 09, 2004 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quiksilver     Edit/Delete Message
WOW! This is so cool!!!! I am not quite there yet but I do have moments where I am able to control my dreams. I can't at this time really recommend a book though. Sorry!

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Gemini Nymph
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posted August 09, 2004 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Nymph     Edit/Delete Message
Astral travel/projection is quite common for kids with psychic tendencies. I can't offer recommendations of books or websites, since I've never found those very useful in understanding my own psychic gifts. But a few comments (these come largely from my own experience and from my understanding of other's experience - my opinions don't necessarily agree with gurus or celebrity psychic "experts"):

1. Don't overemphasize her gifts - just be loving and supportive of her as you would if she didn't have such apparent gifts. As wonderful as it seems, and of course you love her and want to be joyous over her "specialness," you do in fact run the risk of expecting to muc of her gifts, even if you can't see that you are.

2. Her gifts will evolve on their own course, and as she grows and mature she will begin to intuitively know what she needs in terms of developing her gifts, if that is her calling (I don't subscribe to the idea of forcefully developing one own's gifts, as I've see too many problems with that route, from extreme delusions to incorrigible arrogance to profound disillusionment).

3. Don't expect too much of her. Psychic gifts in children are normally just starting to manifest, so they can be erratic and may even seem to disappear for periods at a time. While some people will tell you otherwise, I am convinced - strongly- that there's no sure way of knowing if they will manifest in her adulthood either, and so building up excessive expectations might lead to feelings of inadequency later, should she find herself a "normal" adult after being treated as a "special" child. To help with this, always encourage her to explore creative activities. Encourage her to write out her experiences in a journal or in stories, or express them in drawing or music. Expose her to as much reading, art and music as you can, and allow her to choose what "resonates" with her the most. Allowing her to connect her psychic experience with writing, art and music is possibly the best way to help her develop her own intuition, awareness and ability to articulate her experiences. Also should her psychic gifts leave her for some unforesen reason, developing her creativity will give her something very enriching and equally wonderful to fill the "void".

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noreenz
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posted August 09, 2004 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for noreenz     Edit/Delete Message
quick question.....doesn't everybody dream in color? how about being able to feel?

So how old are these children?

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SunChild
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posted August 10, 2004 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
thank-you so much Gemini-Nymph- that is what I do believe too, you have been most informative and helpful. I will remember those wise words always..

noreenz...im not sure if everyone dreams in colour? did you know that I dont even know if I do or not...sounds wierd but I do remember dreams that were in colour..but i dont know if i have ever had any in black and white..
Also, do you mean feel as in feeling objects or emotional feeling?
And these children are 14-16

quiksilver this is

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paras
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posted August 10, 2004 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for paras     Edit/Delete Message
Very !

I enjoy conversing with children, too. The thing that sucks, tho, is, being a guy, the older I get, the more I worry someone's going to think I'm a sicko pervert. :P

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pixelpixie
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posted August 11, 2004 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, but Paras, you were a born teacher. Go do that.
Go teach.
Not too young though, you need an intellectual challenge. People with firm yet malleable opinions. You can explore them together.

Cool about the dreams. My mom and I used to have these great conversations about her/my dreams, when we were younger. She has had some neat experiences... exactly what you said the girls said... when she was bored, she'd think about a place, and be there. Make things happen.
I am not quite as gifted, though I have astral travelled.. I haven't for such a long time.. but I do remember vividly, being about fourteen and doing it for sure.

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paras
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posted August 11, 2004 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paras     Edit/Delete Message
Hey, I feel what you're saying, Pixel. If I was to be a teacher, I'd want to teach high school. It is a very tumultuous time for a lot of kids, and having good teachers can make a world of difference. I like talking to little kids too, though... not to teach them, but to learn from them. They remind me of the simple truths, and are so incredibly wiSe, without even realizing it. Kind of an "All I Ever Really Needed to Know, I Learned in Kindergarten" kind of thing.

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26taurus
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posted August 11, 2004 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Hi SunChild,

One of the books that helped me feel more comfortable with OBE's (out-of-body experiences) is: Journeys out of the Body, by Robert Monroe.

I have been having OBE's for years. It was really scary to me at first - and sometimes still is. I started reading up on it when I finally found out what was happening to me. I wonder if these kids have what I experience before every OBE. My physical body becomes paralized. I'm in that in between awake and dreaming state and I start hearing an extremely loud rushing wind sound that sometimes jolts me awake. Other times it's a very high pitched ringing, that gets louder and louder and it feels like every cell in my body is vibrating or speeding up?? I don't know it's really hard to describe. I try to keep myself calm when this starts happening and aware enough to remember it when I wake up. Usually I cant remember what happens after that. All I can see is whiteness and sometimes pictures flashing really quick in my minds eye. And almost always before I finally drift of to sleep I start hearing unknown voices - parts of conversations - that don't fit togethter. It's like theyre coming out of the ethers. Kind of like changing the radio stations really fast. I'm picking up on something. I think this is called clairaudience. A few weeks ago I was almost asleep when I was jolted awake by I, swear to God this really loud whisper in my ear. I wasnt imagining it and it wasnt a dream. And I was home alone. Quite scary. And I couldnt make out what was said. I just layed there frozen, now wide awake, heart thumping, repeating in my mind what I heard, but I couldnt make out the words.

Unfortunatly I don't remember much of where I go when I astral travel. I'm getting better at controlling my movements while out of body. I do remember times looking down at my body in bed and squeezing back into it. It feels like trying to fit a size 10 foot into a size five shoe.

While explaining the sound things I get before sleep to a friend a few years back, he told me he knew someone who might know what it was all about. He introduced me to a guy who was having the same experiences and he let me borrow some of the books he had on it. It's called Ekenkar. I don't have the book anymore and cant remember the title. It's something like, the "Sharyiat - Ki - Sugmad". Yes, I think that's it. This was a great book on astral travel and explained the different levels or dimentions one goes to while in this state. It also explained the sounds one hears upon reaching these different planes. I was relieved to read all of this and realize I wasnt going crazy and that there was actually something to what going on with me.

I'm interested to know if these kids have similar experience with this to me. It seems like they are completely fearless with the whole thing. Not that they should be full of fear but when it first started happening to me I was very scared. I still don't have complete control or understanding of it all.

Kids are amazing - especially the ones that are coming onto the earth at this time. So cool. I'd love to hear more about them and there experiences.

Keep us posted.

~26

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SunChild
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posted August 11, 2004 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Hi 26Taurus,
Thanks for the book.
I think what your describing first off is a sleep paralysis. I used to suffer that alot.
I moved to america for a brief period, during which I use to wake up and my body was still asleep. I have mentioned it to my sister before and she never said she had this before an OBE. I too also heard noises during the paralysis. They've gone now and I don't go through this anymore.

I will ask my sister and her friends about the types of noises ect... They're coming over today,...and you would'nt believe isabelles gift. She has visions that she thought was normal. Like a vivid dream during the day. But by the end of the day she forgets. i'll continue this later

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SunChild
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posted August 11, 2004 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
26--This is the thread where we discussed my sleep paralysis a while back. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/000514.html

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"Almost always it is the fear of being ourselves that brings us to the mirror." -Antonio Porchia

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bewitched
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posted August 20, 2004 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bewitched     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe thet go back in time sometimes??

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