posted October 25, 2004 02:24 AM              

The door is always open......which is why we are here to begin with.

posted October 25, 2004 02:17 PM            

Appreciate your insight. The question is : Is it that in ones one lifetime its possible to come across diverse people from whom we can learn and better ourselves?

In a family I have always observed compatibility of star signs between children and one of the parent. I mean majority of the times. If you have siblings, you understand them.

You interact with colleagues at work.

We may only understand one spouse in a lifetime.

Do you understand where I am coming from? It implies every one has to be reborn.

Reborn of what? Reborn in a water sign?

Well didn't wanted to confuse by last statement. But it does give an idea of what I was thinking.

PEACE.

posted October 26, 2004 12:51 AM            

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean.

I believe in reincarnation. I certainly think that with each new life we have opportunities for growth. But the question, to me, is growth towards what? I believe that this is dimension, this awareness, is not all there is. I believe that there are many other levels to grow towards. I believe that reincarnation is a tool, in our current awareness, whereby we continue to have chances to grow and be closer to God/dess. But I certainly feel that once you reach a level of awareness that you are "Christ" conscious, as in, always in touch, consciously, with your Higher S-elf and the will of God/dess ... and are willing to follow that and leave our world behind ... that growth takes on a different form. Life will continue without the desire or "need" for death ... full awareness and memory and understanding without interruption. And so it goes with higher and higher levels of existence ... no "karmic amnesia" to deal with on your path.

I remember reading that it is not necessary to live many lives before achieving "enlightenment" ... we are limited by our beliefs and fears. If we could have enough Faith, right now, we could do it. Obviously, that is a monumental task for many of us, so it takes us longer. But how long? It's an individual thing.

But then ... what is enlightenment? Is that "the end" of our journey? Of course not. I would argue it is only the begin. A rebirth, in itself, of sorts, into complete Faith and Wisdom and Knowing. I don't believe Life ever ends, but I do feel that the "need" for death eventually ceases to be once you realize that Life is continuous.

The cycle of life on our earth ... birth, growth, decay, death, sleep/rest, birth ... It is a circular experience, and you lose much by way of your restful sleep between lives, so that much of your knowledge and wisdom remains subconscious. But circles are not the supreme expression. Circles are two dimensional creations. Move one step up and it's a sphere. Imagine Life as it were to move in a sphere, all surface area to be accounted for. Now imagine it as a spiral. The movement appears to be circular, but it is not. Geez, imagine moving up the slinky of Life. I know that's a rather bad example, but at least it's a kind of visual representation.

If I were to believe that this earthly existence is all there is, with nothing to hope for but another life without an opportunity to grow into something higher ... well, to me it would beg the question of where Masters, Gurus, and Avatars come from or exist? Where do the Angels and Archangels and Cherubim and Seraphim exist? Where does God/dess exist? Where are all the other lifeforms in all of creation existing? Where did Jesus resurrect to if there is nothing more? Where does your Spirit reside while you are dead?

And, of all things, what would the purpose of earthly existence be ... what would Life on Earth continue to struggle to survive for, if not to grow towards something better? What of the animals, plants, and minerals? Are they destined to pure material existence in the case of minerals? Are they destined to pure material and mental existence in the case of plants? Are they destined to pure material, mental, and soul existence in the case of animals? We, as humans, have a Spirit, a Higher S-elf, aside from our physical, mental, and soul bodies to be in tune with, in constant communion with, with which to discover for ourselves what is the will of God/dess and do it wholeheartedly ... as in, four dimensions to our existence already. There are many more.

Imagine that this earthly experience is like being a child in your parents home. Is that all there is? There is an entire world, universe even, for exploration. There are endless task to be accomplished, endless Love and Light to be given. If you were to grow up and remain in your parents house forever ... what would be the purpose of your life?

Just some thoughts on my perspective anyway.

posted October 26, 2004 10:00 AM              

Why do you suppose we exist always in the Now? Always at the threshold?
Do you believe the spiral is always in ascension?
Could it be that instead of ascension, the spiral might represent infinate returning to the Now........the Center of our Being?
Perhaps this is why there is really no ending.....for we are not actually in attainment, for that already resides within us. Is it instead, the continual striving for rediscovery......awakening?

I had an image of a Master sitting at a keyboard.......just like us, searching for the most perfect words of expression.
Typing out Wisdom to the ethers.......while sitting in his jammies, sipping tea.
Ah......strange times we are living in.

posted October 26, 2004 02:12 PM            

we were having a usual discussion and we landed at this!
this actuallt is known as matrix.it exaplains that there is a scientist who has kept a some one's brain in some solution which is living.what ever goes around in the lab ,he says,is visualised by the brain as him self.for example-if some one is fighting there ,the brain thinks that he is the one doing it.
simirlarly the scientist explains that is possiple that we are also only a brain and what ever is happening around is the thing havening in someone's lab!!and its not possible for us to discover that because we are in a cointainer and can't thing beyond that.

posted October 26, 2004 03:39 PM            

I meant, that its just not possible for a man to enter this cycle for the first time and be liberated in the next birth. I meant for ordinary human being.

Jesus is a mystery. Some say he may have been Enoch that God created. Not much is said in scriptures about him for unknown reasons.

He may also have been, Melchizedec (during Abram) If one read Genesis 14:19-20, and Psalm: 110:4

So if he did infact was human, it did take him birth after birth to achieve perfection. And the chirst consciousness is not just his birthright but everyone who has proved it worthy to be.

So if Jesus did achieve perfection in his last reincarnation. This is when he conquered death, the final suffering.

Will each one of us take that long to achieve perfection. Or is it that his death, and all the pain and suffering he took on him on the cross. The baptism of the whole earth by his pure blood, made it easy for us to escape.

Well now I am going from his human to divine nature and i better stop before I shuffle some more feathers.

Well plants and minerals have no salvation. It only makes sense to speak of salvation of Human, because they have that part of pure, spark of the ALL, in them. And the ALL wants to gather his children, like a hen gathers its chicken.

I also belive there are many earth in the universe where we find innumerable human souls trapped in its own circle.
We are only being transferred from one circle to another circle.

The destination is the All for all these circles.

In each of the planet, when a critical mass is reached where a certain number of people gets enlightened, then even the unenlightened would get enlightened. This is such a mystery. And all these masters, gurus from other realms have come to teach us way to light. They are not affected by Maya as musch as when they jump the circles, as they know they have a purpose when they are born. Especially children who don't cry when they are just born.

Christ consciousness is not resting as we speak but being born in a different, planet, as an Avatar. Preaching them. Turning their hearts towards the light.

I did find it interesting to read your thoughts and I glad that like me you too believe in escape from this cycle. Your thoughts are definitely food for mine and I would love to explore it further and contemplate.

SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE ABANDONING ALL THESE THOUGHTS AND THINKING THAT EVERYTHING IS A HALLUCINATION, A PROJECTION. THERE IS NO MASTER. JUST A ANIMATED VIDEO PLAYED BY ALL TO REMIND US OF WHO WE REALLY ARE

PEACE

posted October 26, 2004 07:34 PM            

Eleanor, when you asked "where Masters, Gurus, and Avatars come from or exist?" It made me think "what if they chose that existance just like we chose ours? Neither is better, but either is full of God. Maybe the filters are just a little different, and hence the power to manifest is of various degrees. Ultimately though, we are all trading around the circle, either being lead or leading beings. In CWG, they said an interesting thing: We are humans being.

By Being Human, we are Humans Being. The question is "to Be, or not to Be". In either case, Being is everything.

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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I think, therefore I thank...

posted March 04, 2005 02:09 PM            

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1.a. A curve on a plane that winds around a fixed center point at a continuing increasing or decreasing distance from the point. b. A three-dimensional curve that turns around an axis at a constant or continuously varying distance while moving parallel to the axis; a helix.

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This is most curious. What we have is a shape that has it's focus, or origin, in a first-dimensional point which then becomes a second-dimensional object by means of its arm(s), if one were to look at it from a bird's eye view. Now if you add volume to this, then the spiral becomes a third-dimensional object such as it presents itself all throughout life in our genes, our ears, seashells, flowers, etc. Spirals have this quality about them that make them seem infinite, don't they? Like they just keep going forever. I wonder if Spirals are present in the fourth dimension as well? Here's another interesting thought: the word SPIRITUAL contains the word SPIRAL in it. And Linda always used that word to describe our progress in lexigramming, didn't she? Spiralling...Curiouser and curiouser, indeed.

We definitely limit our senses and thoughts because of our upbringings and the concepts that are taught to us. This severely limits our thinking to some extent, yet ultimately it is our own action upon our senses and thoughts that limit us. We must see the things beyond our modern-day consciousness or at least entertain the possibility of its existence. Otherwise, Einstein would not have discovered that we indeed are fourth-dimensional beings, that light acts as a wave and particles in motion, and that time is relative.

Just some thoughts to keep spiralling between ours-elves.

posted March 06, 2005 10:52 AM            

When we've graduated from the "Earth school" we advance to a higher school, one we can't conceive of because it's more advanced than we are. And when we graduate from that school we advance on, and so on and so on. Past that, who knows?

posted March 09, 2005 10:42 PM            

This universe is so determined (yet random). Imagine a body with a dogs head and human body. Unthinkable correct?

You have to remember that GOD is immanent (pervading all) and transcends our universe at the same time.

Me, You and others (not sure about animals or plants) are the manner in which creator has manifested and is yet seperate.

When he had designed or architected the universe he must have left escape points from this universe.
The point about dog, pig and human is that just as our soul wears a clother of flesh. So can our spirit (Which is immortal) be a cloth. I do not know what it could be other than flesh in a different universe.

Every moment in your life do good works.
A chain is as strong as the weakest link. Therefore make that weak link strong. Send your light there.

The options that is exit points or transports (as discussed earlier) to a different zone will come to you when you are dead. Some great ones can experience it even when they are alive. Especially people that see a dim white light glow before they sleep.

PEACE..Hi Merlinsque, Welcome and I enjoy reading your posts.

posted March 10, 2005 12:12 PM            

Since the last post here, I've been concentrating rather obsessively about a few concepts. First of all, I've been thinking about what exactly does it mean to be in the fourth dimension...I mean, the third dimension is length, width, and height. There are three dimensions there. It has volume. This is simple to understand because our species has digested this well enough for millenia. Now, according to science, the fourth dimension includes time. But what does this mean exactly? For those of you like me who have not grasped this wholly I would tell you this: what helped me understand is the concept of Time as the Eternal Now, not our nurtured notion of the linear concept that divides time into segments. Time is motion. Time is vibration. Time is the past, present and future all happening simultaneously. We do not properly understand Time and let it control us because we are only beginning to understand that this motion, this movement, all of this constant vibration starts to have an effect on the very elementary laws of the third dimension. You see, the mistake I have been making is thinking that the third dimension had movement or motion in it. Yet, the third dimension is absent of time. It cannot have motion or movement because as it does not encompass time, it is therefore exclusive to it. The third dimension is completely still and statuesque. It allows shapes to "pop out" and appear like the objects we see in our reality, but it is not our reality because we know and experience Time and therefore we are constantly in motion.
I came to this from watching the loxodrome animation last night with a friend after seeing the word loxodrome appear on the show CSI. I never watch the show, but as I was sleeping over my friend's house I employed the opportunity. What is strange is that the game that was being played on the show was this one called "Logos". The harmony of the universe really amazes me sometimes. The game on CSI made me think of Gooberz, you know when Heathcliffe starts revealing about the Trinity being the Father, the Mother and the Logos children. What dimension are words in?
WOndering this, I must say that I'm not sure if I even agree with Einstein. Our reality is not limited. We see and have the ability to understand concepts that go far beyond our capabilities. Our very own entities possess a function that has not yet been explained by science: thinking. Funny isn't it? The sole propeller that has sculptured science to the pillar that it is today escapes its measurements, experiments, and categorizations. Maybe thoughts are of a higher dimension? Do I remember correctly from Genesis, that the Father/Ra/Universal Mind, rested on the 7th day? Is this the 7th dimension? I am not sure for I have not thoroughly studied many of the things that I should, but this tells me intuitively that we are not limited to any dimension. We are spirals. We are the children of God and Goddess and we were created in their likeness. This is one of the many messages of the spiral.
There is much more I have thought about lately, but I am in danger of becoming a rambling fool if I have not crossed the line already. So with this I wish to all Peace Profound.

posted March 11, 2005 11:42 PM            

einsten was one of the person who tried to study it his whole life.