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Topic: Reincarnation
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aqua Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Oct 2009
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posted October 19, 2004 03:16 AM
how does the cycle end?by lifting all the karmas or something else too?IP: Logged |
SunChild unregistered
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posted October 19, 2004 03:55 AM
when you said 'something else too?', could you possibly already know there's more? Because, there has to be a 'drive', and a desire to balance karma! And, you also need lifetimes, so to stop the process of more lifetimes you need to steadily make another choice. that is: to know in your heart that you will and can, remain here ...then the cycle ends IP: Logged |
sesame Moderator Posts: 181 From: Oz Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 19, 2004 03:56 AM
I guess when you choose...IP: Logged |
paras unregistered
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posted October 19, 2004 04:07 AM
Wow! I like your answer, SunChild! IP: Logged |
iAmThat Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted October 20, 2004 12:49 AM
- Burning in the purifying power. - Making right what you did wrong as long you live? Think everyday, summarize pray to God. Contemplate on the higher consciousness if you don't belive in God. - Forgiving debts of your friends, enemies - Repenting for your own trespasses - Understanding that you are a part of existence and that you are simply the existence
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LibraSparkle unregistered
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posted October 20, 2004 02:51 AM
Why does the cycle end? Could it be circular ... like love?IP: Logged |
sesame Moderator Posts: 181 From: Oz Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 20, 2004 08:17 AM
I think the only way it can end is if you choose to remain with the all. But see, therein lies the paradox. What if you chose to become seperated again? Really, there must be no end. So I'll rephrase my answer.No, it never ends. (Unless it does.) Heaps of Love, Dean. IP: Logged |
thirteen Newflake Posts: 0 From: alberta Registered: Oct 2012
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posted October 20, 2004 10:05 AM
Ok if this is the world of illusion and the true reality is after this world of illusion then how can imortality be the end of the cycle. That would mean you still have a physical body.IP: Logged |
aqua Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Oct 2009
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posted October 20, 2004 10:28 AM
why can't the cycle end .it ofcourse can and then we'll reach the bliss and join the divine.ofcourse its diffcult,but not impossible.
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iAmThat Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted October 20, 2004 12:09 PM
Lets say it does end. Then - How long can you be with the divine in essence. Will it give you a planet and make you its king. - Or would you be like a pillar in the temple - Or will be it be anything the man desires. Remember the desires of man never ends. It may come to an end in this plane of existence. Or does it, isn't the wish to merge with the All an desire. - There will be some who would like to come back to be served. - There will be some who would like to come back to serve. (Shirdi Sai Baba, Amrita the hugging saint, mother Teresa) Just like the thoughts are ceaseless so is the possibilities. Don't get caught in that, just flow fully aware.
The most important point is:
would you be the sugar or be an object and get to taste the sugar. Which is more fun? Well there you go. Sometime sugar sometime the object. The key word is sometimes. The truth is when you do become a object. You are subject to laws of Maya. It is so strong. Everyone fails, unless they hold on. HEAPS OF LOVE and PEACE.
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LibraSparkle unregistered
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posted October 20, 2004 12:57 PM
aqua, I don't really KNOW... just shooting out a theory.I say "like love" because I explain to my children that love is circular, and therefore eternal. So, they have adopted the phrase, "I love you like a circle" I've also read (I can't remember where) that there are 13 levels that we go through in the evelution of our souls. In the 13th and final level we are re-absorbed into the God Unit. Anyone ever hear of this theory? IP: Logged |
thirteen Newflake Posts: 0 From: alberta Registered: Oct 2012
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posted October 20, 2004 03:06 PM
I have heard of the different levels but I don't know any details. I remember reading it somewhere. "I love you like a circle" is the cutest thing I ever heard. It kinda made my afternoon.IP: Logged |
SunChild unregistered
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posted October 20, 2004 06:53 PM
Just the cycle of reincarnation as we know it ends.... Thats beautiful Librasparkle!
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iAmThat Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted October 20, 2004 10:05 PM
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The most important point is: would you be the sugar or be an object and get to taste the sugar. Which is more fun?
Well there you go. Sometime sugar sometime the object. The key word is sometimes. The truth is when you do become a object. You are subject to laws of Maya. It is so strong. Everyone fails, unless they hold on. IP: Logged |
iAmThat Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted October 20, 2004 11:09 PM
Circle to my mind represents a trap. Or for that matter any pattern.Surely I don't want my spirit to get trapped in that circle. PEACE
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LibraSparkle unregistered
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posted October 21, 2004 11:08 PM
A circle, to my mind, represents eternity. IP: Logged |
aqua Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Oct 2009
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posted October 22, 2004 02:46 AM
that's really sweet Sparkle!(i love u like a circle!!) well iAmThat- i really don't know how it would be there when i reach its end(if i ever do).so i am just discussing here.u have a strong pt. though it some how does not satisfies me.but to some extent it makes a lot of sence.IP: Logged |
aqua Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Oct 2009
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posted October 24, 2004 12:47 AM
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Eleanore Knowflake Posts: 112 From: Okinawa, Japan Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2004 03:01 AM
I've always thought that reincarnation moves in a circle until you add another dimension ... then Life spirals, either up or down, but I'm choosing up. I think it's more than just balancing karma ... lots of people have a relatively clean slate in a new life but they remain unaware. So they build more karmic connections, good or bad, that need to be dealt with. I suppose once you reach a level of awareness where you and your Higher S-elf are in constant communion then you can decide to move to a higher level. You might stay here for a while to help the rest of us along our ways, too, but it would be a fully conscious choice either way. I imagine a spiral moving up as getting closer to God/dess or the source or whatever term you prefer, while moving down is moving away. (We're kind of stuck on plateau here in this dimension, I think, because of our lack of awareness, connection ... I mean, there really are no circles in our reality, just spheres and spirals, because circles are 2 dimensional.) Eventually, the movement up is so infinitesimally small that you can never approach the source enough to be lost in it ... but, like numbers, the possibilities of unity are endless. It's hard to put these sorts of things into words that make sense. ------------------ "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Ghandi IP: Logged |
Heart&Soul unregistered
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posted October 24, 2004 03:20 AM
Be the Sugar: Giving Taste the Sugar: LivingGiving = 19 = 10 = 1 Living = 19 = 10 = 1 Is it no wonder they equal the same......and return us to the One? Give = 15 = 6 Live = 15 = 6 and to Love as well. IP: Logged |
Heart&Soul unregistered
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posted October 24, 2004 03:36 AM
All is One.....One is All."Love All" = 1 too IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 5231 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2004 10:44 AM
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lalalinda Moderator Posts: 5231 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2004 10:47 AM
It ends when you master the karmic lessons of each sign. You keep evolving untill you become one with God.IP: Logged |
sesame Moderator Posts: 181 From: Oz Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 24, 2004 08:09 PM
Yes, but then what? Wouldn't you then want to start from the beginning, maybe as a snail?I read recently (in Conversations with God) that Life is For-giving, not For-getting. Dean. IP: Logged |
iAmThat Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted October 24, 2004 10:44 PM
Dear Lalalinda quote:
It ends when you master the karmic lessons of each sign
Interesting. Is this what is meant my 12 steps in the ladder of Journey towards God? How do you decide then which sign is first and which is last during incarnation? Does someone enter this cycle in an arbitrary sign? If not isn't it easy to guess that those who are Sagi are closer to escape than Aries lets say? PEACE IP: Logged |