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sesame
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posted May 16, 2005 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Fayte, Well, see, we can discuss anything really. Am I serious? I have been accused of such in the past. I can be curious or enquiring more often. I don't know if seriousness is all that positive a trait, and yet, I don't exactly laugh openly at people. A thread I think you might like is http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001311.html - about relative understanding of God. There are others concerning passages of the bible etc. Everything's open really. As for Cayce, he was a devout christian who under trance spoke of completely unchristian beliefs so I don't understand how he was biased. The fact he was in trance I thought also disproved this.

Aqua, a clue? I just thought the subconsious didn't have elements - that they were one or either, but then I think there is definitely a link between the soul and spirit - maybe what the soul is telling you could be based on the spirits master plan, or it could be unique for this life - like a regional CEO compared to a district.

Dean.

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Christinaeavynwarner
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posted May 16, 2005 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Christinaeavynwarner     Edit/Delete Message
What are you going to name your book?

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fayte.m
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posted May 16, 2005 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Sesame/Dean! Thank you muchly for the thread! Perhaps I will bump it up. Also what do you wish to be addressed
as? Dean or Sesame? I respect Mr. Cayce. I just sense something is not quite detached from self enough. I still feel that no one has published any research that surpasses that of:
Leon Denizarth Hippolyte Rivail/alias-Allan Kardec. "The Spiritist Burr in the Spiritualist Saddle"
I have my reasons. I'm glad you are a communicator!!!!!!

Christina? My book? Actually it is the work of several of us. It is a secret at the moment sweetheart! It is the result of a lifetime of experience and then intense ongoing research with others over the last decade or so. It will hopefully be done sometime this summer. My husband had to get his professional book done and published first. The US Embassy Library in Bejing even bought a copy! I helped him research and proofread that one. Now we are back to our several ongoing writing projects. When our book on this matter is done, I'll let you know!

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sesame
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posted May 17, 2005 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Either's OK. As you've touched on, I'm geminian so two names feels right, and the communicator thing, well, yes, I like the flow of ideas. Other threads you might like:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001122.html about truths within the bible and http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001296.html about Jesus dying for our sins. See, we can be controversial, just so long as we're always respectful

The reason I gave my email is because I wondered why you refuted my theories without any explanation. You don't need an eplanation, but if you want to give one, then by all means do so.

And I was going to bump that other thread for you, but eh. If you want to add to them, then that's great. I really do want to read anything you want to say. Maybe try to keep it a little tame though. Not that you wouldn't See - geminian double talk.

Dean.

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fayte.m
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posted May 17, 2005 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Dean!
I kinda thought you are a Geminian. You sound like one of my closest friends. He is a Gemini. He thinks I'm nuts sometimes, and I think he is sometimes. But actually we get along pretty well. I'll have to re-read everything to determine exactly what I did or didn't say. Back to you later!

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Philbird
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posted May 17, 2005 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Going out on a limb here. I'm actually going to make a stand.
"The Bible" in any form or version is a book of possibilities. Neither good or bad. Period.

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fayte.m
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posted May 17, 2005 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
I would have to say, a book(s) of contrasts.
showing good and evil. It just bothers me when the evil often stems from what is being touted as being the ultimate good.........That just does not add up! There had to have been a mistranslation! I hope.

I have harsher words and also many compliments for parts, but I think I'll shut up now.

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Philbird
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posted May 17, 2005 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Me too! But I wouldn't want the web site to explode!

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fayte.m
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posted May 17, 2005 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Hee! Hee! I know what you mean!

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iAmThat
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posted May 17, 2005 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
I don't want to spoil the fun

My stand is : Scriptures should only be used as references and not taken literally. Be it the four gospels or NagHammadi or whatever.

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sesame
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posted May 17, 2005 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Fayte, it's no biggy, and I'm not offended. This is what you said:

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sesame! I read what you said at your webpage. Some aspects I agree with in part, some not at all. I do not want to go into that at the moment.

The "not at all" could be elaborated if you so desire via email, but you don't have to is all I'm saying. My ears prick up a little when people say things like that. I wonder if that's an elvish saying? But also, if you wanted to shed some theories re the bible which you think is too serious for LL, then that'd be cool too. But everyone hear debates everything as they see fit. It's an open discussion forum in the strain of Linda Goodman's style. I'm sure if you've read some of her books you'd realise she was very "against the norm" in her beliefs and they seemed so much more logical, magical, and beaautiful because of this. This does not mean everyyone has to agree, but that they can discuss these ideas and determine their usefullness for themselves. As with all theories.

Dean.

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fayte.m
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posted May 17, 2005 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
iAmThat! I agree!!!!!!

Dean, I will re-read your website later. At the moment I do not have time. I'm just wrapping up some quick replies tonight. I'm glad you are not offended. That was not my intention!

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iAmThat
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posted July 10, 2005 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Well this person says the spirit powers your body as opposed to what i said before.

Well mine was only a theory? I am glad someone has researched it and written a book. I am posting the web site. If ane1 read it let me know how u feel.

http://www.thespiritualkey.com/
http://books.iuniverse.com/viewbooks.asp?isbn=0595267424&page=fm1

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trilioth
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posted July 25, 2005 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trilioth     Edit/Delete Message
Soul is the channel
between spirit and form.
This applies to all life.

It seems to me that the soul is like a mode of travel. And that in death the mode of travel must be recycled, and made a new through a new entry, reincarnation.

I relate the emphasis on eternal life of the soul to the purpose for ascension. In last incarnation, the one through which the chains are broken or the fetters removed or all karmic debt paid, it seems that the soul is preserved. Thus has the mode of travel to the cleansed form been made pure enough to be preserved as a relatively easy connection for the spirit to work through the soul to operate the vessel.

On a relative note, I sense that the physical body has a physical conterpart in the ethers, and that we shall shed our mortal coil in a manner as to preserve the etheric vessel, or white garment.

It is understood that our Space Brothers, from Mars and Venus, so I hear, are among us clothed only in the etheric vessel. That UFO's are etheric space craft and they lower the vibration of these machines so as to make it visible in the 3 lower stages of matter (solid, liquid, gas--the ethers consisting of 4 levels of matter vibrating higher than gas.)

Does this help?

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Daniel Son

"It's just a phase and I want it to be over soon!" "Just A Phase" from Make Yourself by Incubus

It would be a honor to do research and to publish my findings, so petition me--if you will.

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aqua
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posted September 17, 2005 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aqua     Edit/Delete Message
new suggestions anyone?

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sue g
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posted September 17, 2005 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
A soul cannot be destroyed.......the spirit can be damaged....the soul lives on.....the spirit changes, it can go from repressed to free....the soul remains as it is always.....I think....maybe I am wrong.....

How can I convey into words, how it "feels".....I am very watery, deep and ruled by my senses.....words at times are not enough

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