posted March 13, 2006 06:18 PM         

The problem is a lot of school kids are using it every day.....that is what I would worry about.

The young girl I speak of uses every day.....her eyes look completely vacant and empty of feeling....

I find this very scary and sad....

Sitting talking to her, I felt I was the younger of the two.....alive, enthusiastic, clear, whereas she reminded me of an old woman who had given up on life.

No sorry I dont agree, these things can be open to abuse.....so sad, such a waste of the human spirit.

posted March 13, 2006 09:01 PM         

Something does not seem right here......
Sue..that does not sound like only a pot smoker...it sounds like she is doing other stuff...or drinking too....
Something else is afoot there.

posted March 13, 2006 09:28 PM         

Sue;
The vacant look you describe is more like heroin or long term use of methamphetamine. I have a dear friend who is also an RN and in a pittiful attempt to escape alcohol, she turned to morphine, demerol and oral pain meds to medicate herself. That vacant look was there alot, another friend of ours finally knocked her off, also an RN and blew the whistle on her to save her from herself and the patients. But she fell off the wagon a few more times and when I was finally able to look past my Piscean relativity in just assuming she was just tired or something..........I got it. The look of the hard drugs is that of an older, worn person, in despair with little hope. Now, time and experience has lent me the ability to recoginze someone who is high on something and there is a difference in the general look that is going on. Something more deep is happening with this girl. Be careful.

posted March 13, 2006 09:57 PM         

Basically it drew a different kind of crowd.

I also know what you mean about the users of heroin.
and you said:
Quote:
"The look of the hard drugs is that of an older, worn person, in despair with little hope. Now, time and experience has lent me the ability to recoginze someone who is high on something and there is a difference in the general look that is going on. Something more deep is happening with this girl. Be careful."
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I agree! Be careful Sue!
This does not sound as simple as a pothead case.
She could actually have severe psychological/mental problems unrelated to pot.

posted March 14, 2006 03:07 AM         

I wouldnt invite anyone into my house that does drugs, whether its pot or anything else....even cigarettes to be honest.

And ladies I have to disagree......I had close friends who smoked pot every day...and they had this same look about them....I know this from being with them . Its called "being stoned" isnt it? They didnt do any other drugs.

My husband smoked it for a while and I couldnt believe the change in his energy...it was like making love to a different man....one that wasnt "there".

So please dont tell me its not harmful....it can be....and is!

I get a little pi**ed off when people try to justify the use of it when I have seen people get sick from it.....including me and my husband.....and of course my brother in law went totally over the edge with it.

Its a subject thats very close to my heart!

I smoked very little of it and nothing else and got very depressed....how many more are there like me?

I know I risk getting criticised for speaking out this way.....but I always was a bit of a rebel and didnt go along with the "crowd". One thing I always noticed in the past was how I irked others cos I wouldnt join in with their habit.....I got called a puritan.....hahaha....

Ooooh if only they knew......

posted March 14, 2006 04:24 AM         

I know you have said that before.....

WOW....

I tell him every day how special he is and how he could go on to be whatever he wants to be....

Lets hope and pray he doesnt feel the need to waste his life and get "wasted"

Praying with an open and warm heart...

Thanks again....uplifting and encouraging words

posted March 14, 2006 07:08 AM         

Sue...
Alot of pot now days is laced.
It is often not only just pot, but has other drugs often added to it.
PCP and other stuff.
Even certain petroleum products.
As far as getting high.
I pretty much stopped in 1979.

I got bored with it.
Waste of my time.

But it's use in Chemo-radiation therapy and glaucoma is known...and valid.
The plant also has much value as a renewable resource for fiber to make ropes..clothing and more. It's oil can be used for anything from cooking to use in engines.
But yes...abuses happen.
And some folks should never do it or drink alchoholic beverages for that matter!

posted March 14, 2006 10:35 AM         

I happen to have compassion for anyone who has an addiciton to anything......

I just dont wanna be around the ones that get stoned OR drunk...thats all....maybe its cos its too painful for me to look...

My father was hooked on anti-depressants for years and was never emotionally there for me....

His energy felt very similar to that of the stoneheads Ive met....its all about breaking a pattern for me.....

That is why I speak so strongly.....am not being judgemental....it just makes me sad.

I am a woman who is very sensitive and have been told many times....be careful of yer energy....I do, these days, choose to mix with others who are "clear", not cos they are better people, but because I can connect with them.

Mmmmm.....not quite sure I agree about food/sex addicts tho....youre right in the respect that any addicition isnt good. but food and sex dont have mind altering effects do they......? In my mind there isnt really a comparison, but I do see where you are coming from!

I am 47 btw !! I thought you were in your 20s/30s !! You have a lovely young feel to you, yet with wisdom !!

Love
xxx

posted March 14, 2006 11:22 AM         

OR should I say..

AN OVERWHELMING OBSESSION!

Especially Romantic sex, and the excitement of a new lover!
People can and do lose themselves in their quest to find that "Feeling" that often just keeps eluding them!
When the danger and intrigue and excitement become the end all to be all...

That is a recipe for BIG trouble...just as surely as a drug addiction!

Physical health troubles can lead to obesity...but not usually amongst teens and otherwise healthy adults.
But even that "addiction" is a sign of psychological/emotional needs being unmet or not being dealt with.
When the medical profession realizes this...perhaps insurance companies will cover weight reduction/management plans and the counseling needed...
A this time few companies cover weight related issues unless one is at death's door already, or severely obese..for which bariatric surgery is often recommended. That cures nothing but the obesity angle but does not cure that which led them to that.

posted March 14, 2006 11:29 AM         

What I've noticed is that people with obsessive or extreme behaviors are most likely to overuse drugs. My exhusband went from extremes of very heavy pot usage to quitting entirely for long periods. (Aries/Scorpio) There was no inbetween. I was always more balanced about it.

I smoke pot occasionally. I really can take it or leave it, but sometimes I like to take it. I've found that if used moderately, it can enhance sexual sensation very much, instead of numbing it as you say.
It depends on the person and how much used.

As a young Sagittarian myself once who experimented fairly heavily with drugs, sometimes taking it to the extreme, I can tell you that the greatest thing you can do for a young Sagittarian is to let them know you believe in them. That, you believe that in the end they will learn and grow from it. Sagittarians are one of the least likely signs to follow peer pressure. In my case, none of my other friends at the time were smoking pot. This is something I explored independantly on my own. I would have taken offense if someone were to tell me I were following others. It wouldn't have warmed me to anyone's cause.
And also, I was very keen on noticing the hypocrisy of older people who had once had their fill and fun, lecturing young people on the dangers.

Looking back on my young life, I am extremely grateful to my parents for having given me the freedom to make my own choices, balanced with faith in me to find my own way.
I always had the feeling that no matter how much I screwed up, they would still love me unconditionally and more important, truly believed in my own abilities to follow my own drummer and in the end turn out ok for it. I thanked them for this a couple of years ago. They said at the time, that they were very concerned, but knew they had to give me reign to find my own way. They said they knew I was an intelligent and aware person, so they believed in me. A teenager is going throug a period of rebellion and asserting independance. A huge time of transition, any attempts at control will most likely backfire. They knew this.

This girl you know, isn't getting that parental support it seems. But as a friend, I believe you are more likely to help her by believing in her, than showing such worry for her, or judging her for it, basing things on your own experience (she's her own person). Although worry shows that you care, and so is beautiful in that sense, it also subtly implies that you don't believe in her.

Heeding and warning will most often fall on deaf ears to a young Sagittarius. They need the freedom to make their own choices and choose their own experiences. She's so young...but she's learning from her experiences along the way. Do you believe that is so? She seems fairly aware of herself, for being honest enough to admit to you that she feels she's harming herself. That seems like a good sign.

posted March 14, 2006 11:33 AM         

Very well said!

Sue,

I still get carded, don't wear makeup when I am off work, my mom said it would be a benefit to me when I am older and here I am!!! Funny, you to me, have a very young energy, very sweet and almost innocent! I am a very sensitive woman as well and I learned the hard way many years ago to stay away from people who are "toxic" to me. In my job, I have to come home and consiously clear myself of all of the stuff one picks up in an ICU. I try not to go out too much on the weekends when the rest of San Antonio is out, sometimes it just physically hurts. Today is my last day off I go back for 3 starting tomorrow (12 hr shifts) and it is a beautiful day, I think I will go sunbathe beside my hottub and clear myself of all accumulated nasties!

posted March 14, 2006 11:34 AM         

My sister was killed by a drunk...at age 28.....leaving 4 young children behind...

I could go on and on from there...

DRINKING IS LEGAL...but can definitely totally destroy people and their lives!
And because it is legal...more folks are affected by it's use in our society than are affected by drug use.
Not to downplay drug use...
But I see unrestrained drinking as overall, a much BIGGER problem!

posted March 14, 2006 11:35 AM         

Yes I understand where you are coming from. I really have to be careful not to judge.....really I do !!!

This is such good experience and learning for me being a mother of a small boy. Ive always been around drug users and many of my friends used, but I am just looking for a way to help. I am a very strong woman, lucky in that I have my own state of being "stoned".....love and sex do it for me....so I must understand that drugs do it for others.....

Thanks Lia.....I will try and follow your advice.....

Praying all will work out for this young one, and for all others stuggling to find their way.....

posted March 14, 2006 11:39 AM         

"sweet and innocent".....SO many people say this of me, and yet at times I can be a demon hahaha......

My 81 year old mother still has a girlish quality about her....ooohhhh I hope I do at that age....

Thanks girl.....and bless you.....watch yer energy now....and mind yerself....

posted March 14, 2006 11:46 AM         

"Romantic sex and the excitement of a new lover"

Oooohhhh fayte.......you have now hit on my achilles heel, havent you......?

But you already KNEW that didnt ya.......

Are you teasing me now.......?

xx

posted March 14, 2006 11:50 AM         

Speaking from my own Very PERSONAL experiences.