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Topic: For HSC and All Regarding Free Will
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Mannu
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posted September 03, 2006 01:04 PM
  
Lotusheartone,
Yeah, I agree to all you say except when you said Jesus didn't die on the cross. I am still not convinced. Perhaps someone should go with the opposite theory i.e. he did die on the cross and come up with an explanation, "Why?" What does breaking of bread signify? I also believe we are as much the children of earth as that of sky. I think you believed it once too. Why did you change your beliefs? Free will does not exist when God awareness fills us. We are no longer two but one. We have to purify our thoughts as Lotusheartone rightly said but in a different language.
Perhaps every one is seeking answer to the question "Does God really abandon his people?" . I will post my thoughts but wud like to see what others come up with. I don't believe in spoon feeding. So does God I believe. Reason being people are not ready to receive the knowledge yet, they simply dismiss it as nonsensical... Hehehehe...
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lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 01:11 PM
Mannu,What kind of God would require sacrifice? answer, a false god..Jesus did not die for our sins..our father would have never asked him of that. ...plain and simple.. but a father would sacrifice himSelf to continue the generation along through his son..as above so below..Heaven OverSoul..is our mirror image Image 10... . IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 01:21 PM
When you ponder on this...Father God..had his son die on the cross for all our sins... it's really stupid! hehehe The Universal Laws were given to us by God..you get what you give..simply! You are your own judge by your deeds..that are all accounted for..in the Book of Life. ... IP: Logged |
Mannu
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posted September 03, 2006 01:33 PM
Lotusheartone, Do you think our Father would have wanted the victims of the holocaust victims to die? But did it not happen? And does that mean our father does not care? It is for this purpose we are discussing free will here. Free will exists and God does not intervene. Hitler chose to exercise his free will and terminate the jewish people. If God wanted he cud have stripped Hitler of his free will and saved 5 million people. HSC argues that it was God's will that the jewish people die. But he has not supplied convincing arguments so far. Also, why do you think Buddha died? Was he not poisoned? Why did Krishna die of a arrow shot to his thumb? What are the examples these people are setting for earthlings?
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lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 01:41 PM
Mannu..perhaps that is where you are mistaken..you get what you give..carries over from all Earth incarnations..
if they were killed in this manner, than they were a part..of something like this in another incarnation..the Universal Laws..karma must be balanced, unless..you forgive and LOve..come full serpent circle..and create the balance needed through GOD within you. ...IP: Logged |
Mannu
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posted September 03, 2006 01:51 PM
Yeah, I heard that one that. Wonder what HSC says? Does Mirandee believe in Karma? I think Gia who I don't see often here, did not believe in Karma. Now if God has knowledge of the event, why did he not do something? Did not one call in faith his Name? Many also escaped the holocaust, do you think God only wanted them to be saved? Or were this people doers and simply fought and saved their own lives? IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 01:54 PM
you get what you give, simply..I cannot make it any more simple..each has no one to blame but themSelves for where they are today. ...Karma..The Universal God Laws..given to Us in the beginning of each Creation. ...
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Mannu
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posted September 03, 2006 01:56 PM
So God is indeed bound by his gift of free will to us!!! Thats wonderful. Karma and reincarnation are simply by products of creation. A necessary evil if you may  IP: Logged |
Mannu
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posted September 03, 2006 02:00 PM
However my Mom who is Aries asks me to discard the beliefs in Karma and Reincarnation, she wants me to trust an All powerful God and true God who sent Jesus.
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lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 02:01 PM
God MOther and God Father..are us..each pair of twin Souls..the 2 in 1..the separation..Heaven and Hell/Earth. ...each must acknowledge there OverSoul..to bring Heaven on Earth..each has a pair..another half..Re-Union..and communion with GOD. . . this search form the beginning of Creation..when they made themSelves into human form..we are all one..all equal..all the same... children..Re-birth..to Truth. ... IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 02:06 PM
Mannu,Jesus and Mary knew..what would happen..for they were twin Souls..which is needed..for knowledge and Truth..your other half holds the key to your heart..lock and key..one is not entrusted with the all..it is 2 in 1..for completion. ... IP: Logged |
Mannu
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posted September 03, 2006 02:12 PM
Lho, Thats what marriage is about. Two shall become one. Aren't you married? You already have met your twin soul. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 02:13 PM
I am still alone..incomplete. ...IP: Logged |
Mannu
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posted September 03, 2006 02:15 PM
What if we earthlings are Jesus's bride? Sky = Jesus, Earth = Us.
Does n't that make all of us woman Did you hear that theory? Well now you did hehehehe
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Mannu
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posted September 03, 2006 02:16 PM
Awww!!!You aren't!!I thought you had kids too..my mistakeIP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 02:17 PM
that is silly..hehefor God made themSelves..A Man and a Woman..
in Heaven..OverSoul's are side by side. ... as should be on Earth..the mirror Image is required... . IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 02:22 PM
Mannu..please do not pretend to not know I have children..I don't like to play games..right now..we are running out of time..a cycle is coming quickly..and I want all to SEE and understand the Truth. ...prophecies from the false God to not have to be..you see the danger in this..for what you believe will be upon you..and this is of the false God..
We Must bring the True God and Laws to Light..
the answer is within us all..We must connect with GOD..this is the world of illusion...
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lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 02:25 PM
WE can Bring Heaven on Earth..if we choose to. ...if not..the false God wins..and you may lose your Soul...judgement if your own doing..you have the free wi11..to know Truth..
if you really want to.. undertake to do everything with LOve..from this day forward. ... IP: Logged |
Mannu
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posted September 03, 2006 02:27 PM
Lotusheartone, There are few twin souls created in heaven before creation. Example, Isis - Osiris, I have some local couples in mind but you won't know em. Then theres a fictional Romeo-Juliet. My understanding is that everyone has their purest form in heaven to which each must return when their hundreds of holes in soul are purified. Its not necessary you have to chase a partner of the opposite sex for it to fulfill. Although the opposite sex does complete one, one is still incomplete. Appears to me that you feel incomplete. Marry someone? Do not wait for Mr Right. They don't exist if it wasn't created initially. Theres plenty of dating sites available. Don't wait to be rescued. Sorry to sound judgemental, its just an advice from a friend.
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lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 02:30 PM
There is only One for me..I would rather be alone..then be with someOne..who is not my other halfJust as Jesus had to be with Mary
Osiris with Isis
Cronos and Rhea the 2 in 1 is MOst important
Lock and Key. ...
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Mannu
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posted September 03, 2006 02:40 PM
Please let us know when you find Mr Right.
Going back to why Jesus died? He chose his death freely. He died for his believers. So if Karma does exist. He was that paschal lamb. The clean, spotless lamb. He has so much good Karma, that he washes the sins of those who believe in him and his message.
Makes sense? I have discussed before these people with pure energy, does not suffer a great setback and bounces right back after few minutes/days/sometimes weeks and even months.
If Lake = God, Reservoir=Jesus, Taps = humans However the universe allows one to be Reservoir yourself. One has believe in it and be a doer. I don't think there is a couch potato messiah till date  I'm hungry and wish to eat. Keep coming guys.
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lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 02:43 PM
Mannu,Why are you so sure he died on the cross? IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 02:48 PM
hehe..funny..Mel Gibson just popped into my head..and then I started thinking about his karma..perhaps..promting a false story..carries bad karma? I say..yes it does..for what you promote and condone..are your actions..and you should have gone within..to find truth..to know for sure..before performing your free wi11 actions...
2 in 1 = 3 Trinity. . .
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Mannu
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posted September 03, 2006 02:51 PM
So that he sets us an example. Body may perish, but the soul is everlasting. Jesus is not a peaceful soul but a warrior. Only a warrior can endure so much pain. Makes sense? Does Transfiguration, Transmutation , Translocation, etc...ring a bell? When the God awareness fills you, those are the fruits. False Gods wants us to believe in our non-freedom. The True God wants us to have a leap of faith. Makes sense? Do you watch Mind Freak - Chris Angel?
Its absolutely possible.
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Mannu
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posted September 03, 2006 02:53 PM
LHO, Re. Gibson, do not judge lest you be judge. If it was just an opinion thats fine.
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