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lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 02:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you're back on that leap of faith..you better know..by going within before you leap..logic and common sense..if you jump of a cliff..you will most likely die..simply. ...

Chris Angel..operates from darkness..and illusion of this Earth..making lots of money...if he were promoting the True God..he would do his work in a different manner. . .

you are promoting falsehood...

out of fear of the Truth... .

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Mannu
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posted September 03, 2006 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh oh.... misunderstanding again....

Ha ha ha...

Leap of faith is really to believe in your true potential. Sure the angels of God wud come and save you if jump of the cliff. But the question is wud you jump and test your God?

I think shortsighted people like you and other priests twist the truths to their own convenience. They have the key to the lock but prevent themselves and others to enter the kingdom. Sorry to be rude but no more of my wasting my talent here.

I have only heard that the fixed signs such as Taurus, Scorpio, etc are stubborn. But I am getting to experience them here.


Hahaha...


Really hungry... better leave.

May be chris angel is false. But atleast people like you can see and know the unlimited potentials of a human.

Cheers...



Tell me why is thine feet in chains when thy heart is free


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lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 03:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mannu..you said..sure the angels would come save you..if you jumped off a cliff..that is wrong..if you are stupid enough to jump off a cliff..knowing you will be hurt..then you do not deserve to be saved..you have made a poor choice..and it has cost you your life..just as Lucifer shadow..try to talk Jesus into jumping off..saying surely your Father God will save you..
you see..plain and simple...

The Universal Laws are... .

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silverstone
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posted September 03, 2006 05:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings,

Don't want to get off topic but Lotus, please explain the following:

quote:
if they were killed in this manner, than they were a part..of something like this in another incarnation..the Universal Laws

Please don't tell me you are going back to the belief that if someone is killed my some lunatic it's because it is their Karma!

I will be back.... This is a good thread and I will be back to comment... I have to go eat.

Silverstone

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The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.- Robert Frost~

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Mannu
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posted September 03, 2006 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LHO, May God speak to you in silence. Or perhaps he is speaking too much to you already I will respond to that temptation of Christ this once. Hope sense will dawn on you.

Lucifer is a shadow. You got it right. But what you didn't get is he is just an illusion. He does not exists. He appears smart but you have to see thru him to realize that he isn't. Did you ever fast before? You will see the face of Lucifer when you do....Hehehe...that was a metaphor don't take it literally. Ok back to what I was saying.


Did you ever had an accident and got saved? Please really speak of personal experience. If you did you will understand that passage. Some call it aura, some guardian angel. Everybody understands differently. When the event happens genuinely and you call out for help He wud come to your rescue. What Jesus is saying, do not doubt that the Father isn't with you, and do not test your God by falling off the click. When you do, God rips you off your powers and it is then that you certainly will fall and get hurt and die. I do not not know how else to put in better words for you. Did you ever wonder why some people never get sick? Its a gift from our Father.

Also Jesus was creating a strategy on how to begin his ministery. Perhaps you haven't been around the high walls of Jerusalem temple in those days. The air around the temple was very intellectual and you had high priests in long gowns walking around. Won't you be excited today if you were invited to deliver a lecture in Harvard university? Jesus was asking himself, how will I announce my Messianic mission to the jews. Should I just go and throw myself from the temple walls and demonstrate to them that the Father is with me. Not a good idea. Surely the world needs a superman today but every one needs to be one themselves.

See my post on first page, on how he performs the miracle of curing a leper and sends him to the priests.

All of his miracles require faith and belief. He tried to be as human as possible and even tasted crucifixion. One comes closer to God only thru emotional and physical tribulations. And therefore he crushes you or allows you to be crushed. Why? When you experience that crush you would know. Not saying more to spoil your own experiences. Peace be with you all.



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lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 06:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SilverStone..as far as your comment goes..I have nothing further to say..I have stated how I feel..

Mannu..Miracles are an entirely different topic..
your condescending manner..is from ego. ...

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silverstone
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posted September 03, 2006 06:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotus... if you believe that... that's crazy, girl Think about that! So, in essence, you are saying that all of those innocent people in 911 got their Karma

I also think Mannu is just having a sense of humor, so knock it off.

Silverstone

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The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.- Robert Frost~

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lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 06:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jeez..between you and Mannu..there is so much ego testerone...Grr..Roar

you get what you give. ...

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silverstone
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posted September 03, 2006 07:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok... whatever you say. How about presenting a comment in an approachable manner, Lotus?

Cheers,
Silverstone

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The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.- Robert Frost~

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lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 07:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about you stop baiting me, Silverstone..telling me to knock it off..who do you think you are?

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silverstone
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posted September 03, 2006 07:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am Silverstone. And I will tell you to knock it off when you need to lighten up. Mannu was just having a sense of humor in his writing and if you can't see that, then I think you need to lighten up...

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How about you stop baiting me, Silverstone..telling me to knock it off..who do you think you are?

Grow up, Lotus. This is a public forum... and I will tell people to knock it off when they are never willing to listen to others' beliefs or take any feedback or input.

What are you, Mother of the world?
Ok... enough, let's get back on subject this is

Silverstone
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The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.- Robert Frost~

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lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2006 07:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Humph!

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fayte.m
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posted September 03, 2006 08:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting "watching" this thread.

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Mirandee
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posted September 04, 2006 12:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We do not want schools....
they will teach us to have churches.
We do not want churches....
they will teach us to quarrel about God.
We do not want to learn that.
We may quarrel with men sometimes
about things on this earth,
but we never quarrel about God.
We do not want to learn that.

Heinmot Tooyalaket ( Chief Joseph), Nez Perce Leader


This sums up my feelings about it. I too will quarrel about politics, the things of this earth with men or women if need be, but I will not quarrel about God.

The truth is, that no one knows all truth about God and what truth we may grasp onto in the overwhelming immensity of what God is, is but a raindrop in the ocean.

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Mannu
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posted September 04, 2006 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotusheartone,
Please go back and read your posts before calling me egoistic. May be I am, I do not deny it. But you are a hell lot egoist than me.

You label Mr Gibson, You accuse Chris Angel of making too much money, You defend DG as if she has 'the' answer , ..... its appears so retarded to me.


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Mannu
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posted September 04, 2006 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope, people get it that when the post comes from one's hand it is their beliefs. Why must me often reiterate.

Not every one is possessed like LHO while typing on the keyboard



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Mannu
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posted September 04, 2006 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry LHO for saying that but I often get the vibe that I am talking to different people when I talk with you.

Love and Light.



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silverstone
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posted September 04, 2006 01:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geez, Mannu... that's a first... hehehehehe

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The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.- Robert Frost~

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Full-fifthhouse-loulou
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posted September 04, 2006 03:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotusheartone m'dear, in your following quote...

QUOTE - telling me to knock it off..who do you think you are? - UNQUOTE

..... do you not realise that in saying such a thing as 'Who do you think you are?' your ego is in fact full force. You clearly wonder who someone thinks they are to dare speak to you like that. And so think you are above it.

No one is above anything. We're all human, we all have faults, we all speak out of turn, and we all believe in different things. We're all entitled to believe in whatever we chose. It's fun to discuss these things, always, but there's never any point trying to change what someone believes.

Incidentally I believe completely in free will. God is within us. God is our conscience. Our guide. He guides but does not order or instruct. I do believe we are on a path in life but we may falter from it by free will. We were born indecisive, swayed by emotion, by events, environment, by conscience so it may feel we don't have free will, that we are merely pushed and pulled, but ultimately I feel we do. We can choose to take our path. Or not.


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SCORPIO SUN 5TH HOUSE
ASCENDANT CANCER
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Mannu
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posted September 04, 2006 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

Silverstone>>>Geez, Mannu... that's a first... hehehehehe

I'm human too bro

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted September 04, 2006 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CONNECTIONS

"I think I am a central figure,
Standing alone,
But when this is my thought
I ignore my connections.

Life is like a complex tapestry
of threads
interweaving
Creating more and more intricate patterns.

The more care, focus, and thought
that is entered into this picture,
the more ILLUMINATING
the result.

When I truly remember that I am a
strand of colour,
woven into the picture,
and not the WEAVER,
then will I remember my connections,
and see how many threads
connect me to OTHERS
Like a family Tree,
with limbs that reach back into Eternity.

Then, as a spider tentatively testing the threads of his web
I would carefully test the line,

I will wait to see who was aware of this subtle vibration,
Not all will feel it
for many are still asleep
But some will......

And when I understand
that I cannot be alone
I will be happy to be a single strand of colour
In the IMMENSE TAPESTRY OF LIFE"

- robynne black

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Mannu
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posted September 04, 2006 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Brilliant HSC!!!

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Fullfifthhouse said-->>>>He guides but does not order or instruct

"Guide" -- beautiful word that makes the mundane mathematics quite interesting. In the previous posts in the first 2 pages, I would have used the word decree because the authorative Vibration was present in that word. I was discussing how God might strip away free will of individuals in extremely rare circumstances.

Brilliant indeed fullfifth.. Makes me want to sit in the back seat of Limo and ask God to drive me around. All right later now, that thought is already making me cosy and I am ready to go to bed.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 04, 2006 11:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back to free wi11...

Steve Irwin, Corcodile Hunter dies..from stingray, barb pierces his heart..
Freak accident..how many freak accidents
can you think of from this year?

they choas we have created..has brought out
every possiblity imaginable, to happen..

We must simplify our Lives..it's too much!
we are so out of balance, the frequency and amount of times..bad things will happen will be so numerous..

Slow down..breathe..simplify..
Go within, Trust only You and God within...

Manipulation..control, deception, lies...are all wrong..and no good can come of them. ...

We all have free wi11 to live in balance and what is right and Just!

Sending out my Love to Irwin's family...

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Mannu
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posted September 05, 2006 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He is not dead, he is alive in the spiritual world.


My love and light to his family.

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Mannu
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posted September 05, 2006 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chaos is good, for Order follows every chaos. Order is good too. Because chaos wud follow order.

Everything is part and parcel of existence.
The cycle of existence.

Before rain there are thunderstorn (chaos).

Without chaos, this universe or should I say the world we live in wouldn't have been created. Order followed ...creating galaxies, stars, planets, etc...

The only one who can deceive you is you alone. Everybody is unique and experiences differently. It is totally ok if you do not feel what your neighbor feels. Each ones mission in life is different.

In the natural number system, imagine what happens if the number 6 is omitted. Will that set exist? No. So with your existence. You are immortal, neither created nor destroyed. Just changing forms.

You are your own steward, or captain that needs to define why you are here Now. And fulfill it. I know my mission. Do you yours?

Everything around us are concepts. When you are aware it exists and when you are not aware it does not cease to exists. We can long for that awareness and experience from our you and our Father.

A scientist in the 20th century zoomed in too close to the photon(light particle) to find out its speed. Turned out that he could find out its speed, but could not accurately determine the place of the photon. And the opposite was true too. i.e. if he tried to find accurately the position of the photon, turns out the speed wasn't accurate.

There is this mysterious force in everything that is not seen but we know it exists.

(Daniel 12:2) `And the multitude of those sleeping in the dust of the ground do awake, some to life age-during, and some to reproaches--to abhorrence age-during. The first is for those, whose sin is covered by the blood of sacrifice:

(Psalms 32:1) By David. --An Instruction. O the happiness of him whose transgression is forgiven, Whose sin is covered.

Perhaps blood represents the undercurrent.
Flesh represents the outlet, or the shore.
Perhaps this force, screams at us I'm here, I'm here but we don't listen enough

Body is the conduit which we have created to experience music, poetry, painting, technology, even sex, and etc. To have heightened experiences. These are the experiences we take back to God. Which means to our higher self don't you think?

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