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Mannu
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posted November 19, 2006 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
>>>this usually is due to their having been hurt at some time also. the cycle must end somewhere...someone must forgive...and let love in.

Amen(truly) to that!!!

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posted November 19, 2006 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for naiad     Edit/Delete Message

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posted November 19, 2006 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Cool I really like Sinead O'Connor. I remember seeing her the first time live on Saturday Night Live and her depth and compassion blew me away.

Trillian I like your philosophy of "all is as it should be." That we come here to learn whatever lessons we decided before we incarnated, and even pedophelia has it's place. However, I think it's important to note that your philosophy might be misinterpreted to advocate indolence, indifference, and complacency. Just because things are a certain way in the world, doesn't mean we should strive and try to make things better.

Disliking the disparity of wealth distribution in the United States is a normal and acceptable feeling. Unfairness and unbalance in the world are I suppose a spiritual lesson, but we should still strive for equality and balance in the world. Just because things are as they are for a spiritual reason, does not mean we should stop ever striving towards utopia.

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sesame
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posted November 19, 2006 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Unforuntely, my desktop has died so I can't upload that video yet. I will when I buy a new one.

A few words on the concert. On the 10th, Eddie jumped into the crowd and ran up some stairs and jumped off the banister while people chased after him, but he made it back to the stage. He also cried in the end of Black, and changed the words from "We were meant to be... together." to "We were never meant to be". The crowd kept the "Doo doo" part going for a while, which promted these words and the crying. I also have that on video, which I'll try to upload. The sound quality's not so good as the concert was very loud. My ears finally stopped ringing after five days, which I'm so happy about. On the 11th, he said he met the most beautiful Australian girl he'd ever met just before the show, her name is Shyla and she's ten months old. He then dedicated "You are" to her. At the end of the show, by mate asked me what it felt like when Eddie looked at me. He said it happened a few times, but I only remember one (I was going off to much on the others) and that one time, I had to look away. He's one of my heros and just so intense. To assign humanity to someone who can create such lyrics and music is pretty hard. I feel more wise afterwards though. In that look I felt that this is why he's here. To see people going off to his music. To see his effect on the world. But the feeling of being up there must be pretty intense too. My sister's pretty jealous. She had seats for the first concert.

Anyhow, back to the debate. The thing is, negativity really has no place in the world, but we create it as a society more than anything. This society is materialistic and dog-eat-dog, hence more crime and problems etc. If we could love all and exist in harmony, then do you think there would be crime? We are very similar to the Atlanteans - technological advanced but spiritually stunted. We need to evolve spiritually first, but that failing, plan b is to evolve alongside it, which is difficult because we're too busy playing with toys and forgetting the havoc we're creating. Karma isn't just one person, it is the web of life. It could be multi-dimensional hence we choose which level of evolution we choose to exist within. You do not call everything that happens in your life, but the style is a choice, and likewise how you deal with things when they happen. Do you break the cycle, or choose another dimension to experience the event in? Things are more comlpex than simply creating events.

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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