posted November 10, 2006 11:32 PM         

Anyhow, back to my story. I've ordained my job, my wife, my child, my house, and everything in it. My next thoughts are what will I ordain next? I really want to get into physics, but I can't help but think that I like wanting this, so I will always do so. However, months ago when I found out Pearl Jam were coming back to Brisbane, I bought tickets through their fan club and kept thinking how much I'd love to go to the second concert - which wasn't decided until the first tickets went on sale. I had a friend at the time who immediately bought tickets to the second concert, and happened to get front row tickets. My wife really got fed up with how much I talked about them, and wanting to go to the second concert. I asked my friend that if someone pulled out, to consider selling the tickets to me, thinking this would never happen, and yet willing it to happen. I really feel sorry for the people who had to pull out, and feel somewhat guilty that I could be to blame for willing this to happen. And yet, I am so excited about going tonight. I found out on Thursday that I could go, and my wife was fine with it. The ironic thing is that last nights concert was like the best concert I could imagine. Everything was perfect. Eddie cried in one song. Jumped into the crowd and jumped of a banister, played some rare and great songs, and ended with Alive - before Mike took his shirt off and blasted out Yellow Leadbetter. Non Pearl Jam fans could probably skip this bit, but I can't help but think - how can they top this tonight? I just feel so honoured to be able to go again and in the front row right - in front of Eddie. Did I ordain this night? I don't know how I couldn't have, and yet just can't stop feeling guilty and somewhat selfish after last night.

Anyhow, once this is over, I will really put my mind to the next thing I truly want and see how I go. I just really wanted to share this with you guys, and see if you too can see all the things you've ordained without knowing it.

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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I realized it for the first time in my life:
there is nothing but mystery in the world,
how it hides behind the fabric of our poor,
browbeat days, shining brightly, and we don't even know it.

Sue Monk Kidd, "The Secret Life of Bees", p79

posted November 11, 2006 02:41 AM         

I'm so glad you got to enjoy your experience in reality.

The experiencer (that) is you is timeless and the experience (is linear, a movement in time).

The experiencer and the experience is but one. You and the mountain are one. The ego seperates the experiencer and the experience. The ego seperates pearl jam and Dean so that Dean can experience some joy.

Perhaps you are able to manifest your wishes with ease. Do you feel free? No attachement to the past. Perhaps your meditation is helping you manifest your reality.

Cheers!!!

-M

posted November 11, 2006 10:45 PM         

I agree completely. But it's so easy to get carried away and forget that you are part of what you are observing, life is not simply watching a movie.

posted November 12, 2006 01:47 PM         

Just read a quote this morning from a 80 year old woman ...paraphrasing "Journey to grave is not about how safely you arrive at your grave, but its about taking that skid on the highway and then arriving to grave with the words "Holy cow. What was that?" on our lips"

Cheers.
M

posted November 13, 2006 09:44 PM         

I believe there is a fine line between manifestation, and tapping into the future (like having a premonition or a vision). Sometimes, it's so fine, I can't even tell which one I'm experiencing.

Like for example:
Earlier in the year, a friend and I went to a Ra~Sheeba weekend workshop to learn this mode of healing. We decided to really do the nature thing and for two nights, we camped by a river rather than opting for a hotel.

We spent a considerable amount of time, selecting our campsite, so that the beautiful trees were behind us, leaving us an uninterrupted view of the serene river.

Later that night, a trio of campervans arrived and much to our disappointment, set up their camp right in front of us, forming a square with the river.

The next day, we went to the healing centre to learn our new craft. During the day, we had spoken about our wonderful campsite but added how we were disappointed that the new visitors had infiltrated our little piece of paradise.

As we left the Healing Centre, one of the participants told us that we were both now beaming from this new healing energy and to watch out because we will attract all kinds of people at our tent.....and they'll probably want dinner too.

I replied by telling her that knowing our luck, it would be that trio of intruders.....and if they came......not only had they better cook us dinner, but that they should also do the washing up.

It was a hot day, so when we returned to the campsite, we took our learning manuals and sat by the river. Half an hour later, a man approached us. He was from the trio of vans and offered to give us dinner - as they had all eaten and had so much leftover that they didn't want to throw it out.....nor store it, as they were departing the next day.

I turned to my friend and tried to contain my joy/laughter/amazement. We thanked him for the offer and said yes. Moments later, he reappeared with two huge plates of salads and cutlery. He told us to return the empty plates and cutlery when we had finished.

We finished eating and made our way towards the taps to wash them, but had to go via their trio of vans to get there.....so stopped in to say thank you, and explain that we were off to wash the dishes. Then they said, no, don't worry about that, we'll wash them.

They were amazed that we accepted food from people that we didn't know and all commented on how they would not have done the same, had the situation been reversed.

We told them that we'd been to the healing centre and that we knew the food would be safe to eat because we had in fact asked the Universe to provide it.

I have other examples/stories just like this.

Are these manifestations or premonitions?

posted November 14, 2006 09:29 AM         

Your ego is not inherently a chain. The only chains you have are those you create. And if you allow anyone to convince you differently, you've still allowed it and created it yourself.

Dean, it would be in your best interests to stop feeling guilty for manifesting your wonderful life! You did not wish ill will on anyone; you only envisioned yourself happy and enjoying a concert. The Universe manifested it for and with you. Don't cripple your vision, dude! It's yours!

The people who originally had those tickets, who knows? Maybe they were home having the most fabulous sex they could ever imagine. Or having dinner with a long lost love. It's not for you to worry about that. Just manifest more joy for your life !

Everything we do is selfish! That's the way it's supposed to be.

posted November 14, 2006 03:50 PM         

Today at the gym I allowed a woman to go before me in line for water even though I was very thirsty, she was older than me and I thought it was the right thing to do. I did not take pleasure from this act, in fact having to wait for water made me very uncomfortable because I was quite parched. Was this act selfish?

I agree with you that it's good to love the self, that its good to enjoy yourself, and of course to engage in selfish acts. But self love is only the first step on a path towards loving friend, family, strangers, and enemies. Self love is the seed from which love for others can grow.

posted November 14, 2006 07:30 PM         

And of course there is the whole point of relating your water story in the first person, so it reflects back on self. You could have used a parable, something not about self. This is not a criticism by any means; everything we do relates to self (Self being a Piece of a Part of the Whole of All That Is).

And, BlueRoamer, I did notice your little Freudian slip:

quote:

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I'm gonna have to agree with you on this one trillian

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May I suggest you read "Illusions" by Richard Bach, if you have not already done so?

posted November 14, 2006 08:24 PM         

"you still chose selfishly because you thought it was the right thing to do. You followed your own perceptions, no one else's."

It sounds like you are defining as selfish as "of the self," whereas I am defining selfish by the dictionary definition of self:

1. devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others.

This is how I'm defining selfish. Parables are too difficult to come up with, I can't think of any off the top of my head, and experience is much more profound. Whether me allowing a woman to go in front in line is right or wrong is not the issue at hand, the point I'm making is that the act benefitted me in no clear way, but did benefit her. Of course the act and decision CAME from the self, all things must come from the self ultimately, where else can they come from? We aren't puppets on a string, our perceptions and thoughts are all we have to go on.

People have no choice but to be "self-oriented." But you claimed that "everything we do is selfish," and by the definition above that is clearly not so.

That slip was not freudian, I do not agree with you on any level, conscious or subconscious, that was me typing a harried response.

Selfish acts (as defined above) are very common, and are the norm, but there are unselfish acts. For example, when you use the public restroom, you usually flush the toilet. This act benefits you in no clear way, in fact it gets your hand dirty. It only benefits the person who uses the toilet after you. Moreover, often people DONT flush the toilet, if it was rewarding to the self people would do it much more often.

I'd like to humbly request two things from you. Can you prove that flushing the toilet in a public restroom is a selfish act? Also, can you define what you mean by selfish for me?

posted November 14, 2006 08:45 PM         

Ain't life great?

Definitions, by the book are fun, aren't they?

quote:

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Freudian slip 

an inadvertent mistake in speech or writing that is thought to reveal a person's unconscious motives, wishes, or attitudes

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I know, I know, just semantics.

Thanks for the fun this evening, Blue Roamer. I love a chance to jog and stretch my mind. Don't you?

posted November 14, 2006 09:07 PM         

As I stated before, flushing the toilet in a PUBIC restroom in no way benefits the self. What does one gain from flushing the toilet? A dirty hand. Who gains from flushing the toilet? The next person. They dont' have to smell or see the previous persons urine or fecal matter.

posted November 15, 2006 09:09 AM         

Proof is a funny thing. As soon as you think you've figured it all out, along comes a duck-billed platypus.

One of the first college classes I took was "Historians and the Living Past," and included a three point theorem/system for disproving any fact! I loved that class; what a fabulous and illuminating education.

You speak of the Aquarian Age. I would submit that the majority of the people on the planet have never heard of such a thing. How would you prove it to them?

How do you prove that you love someone?

I'll bet there are scientists who can point out that synapses flair in particular ways when you are exhibiting loving feelings; can they distinguish between love of mother, and love of child, and love of chocolate? And is this proof? Further, what of the times when you are in traffic, or reading a book, and not actively exhibiting love; does that mean that because the scientific 'proof'(synapses flairing in particular ways) is not being displayed, that the love does not exist? Does it only exist when those synapses are doing their little love-dance?

What is the proof that you love? Can you adequately prove to me that you love your father/mother/son/daughter/husband? Is the proof the same for all? You may know it in your heart, but if only proof can convince me, how will you do it?

As for the toilet, I don't think you've offered any particular proofor argument that flushing is a selfless act. It's a nice thing to do. Your defense is just that: it's a nice thing to do. Generally, we like it when we do nice things. This in particular is an automated nice thing; those of us who generally flush probably were taught the behavior at an early age. There are probably psychologists (Freudian ones, too, I'll bet!)who would say that continuing to do so is a throw-back to our childhood: flush the toilet, mother says "good job!" We feel great that we've done something that pleases mom, so, selfishly, to continue the feeling of reward...to perpetuate that feeling for ourselves...

I'm sure you see where I'm going. It's a theory, and not necessarily my own personal theory,but hey, like I said, proof is a funny thing.

Oh, was my offering of the definition of "Freudian slip" not an indication of or allusion to my definition of "selfish?" Live by the sword, die by the sword. Live by the textbook definition...

posted November 15, 2006 10:08 AM         

we want Eddie Vedder, we want Eddie Vedder

posted November 15, 2006 10:12 AM         

Wonderfully uplifting post.......!!!!!

Ooooh lucky lucky man getting that close to Sir Eddie....mmmmmmmmm........

posted November 15, 2006 12:54 PM         

So..to be sselfish..would mean to be unenlightened..to God..and each and everyOne of US...

Being selfish..must be the problem???

and none of what I have said..is directed to you Dean..I do believe..that we cannot ordain..until we are Master's and At One with GOD..for then all our choices are for the ALL... .

posted November 15, 2006 01:00 PM         

Just because something is difficult to prove, doesn't mean its not worth trying. Just because truth is relative and evasive, doesn't mean one shouldn't pursue truths that are as absolute as possible.

posted November 15, 2006 01:13 PM         

The truth for now: You should not believe anything I say!

Goodness! When did I ever ask you to believe anything I say?

I'm sorry you think I "weasled" out of anything. I thought I answered you, albeit in an indirect manner. And I'm sure you understood that.

But I will say that I don't see truth as absolute in an expanding Universe.

Peace. Out.

posted November 15, 2006 01:25 PM         

flushing in public is a selfish act...i would prefer my personal 'essences' not be available for the observation of others. this is privacy related.

flushing/not flushing can have childhood related associations. for example, some children feel extreme distress at the thought of 'pieces' of themselves being flushed away. flushing for them is a painful loss.

go figure.