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NAM
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posted February 18, 2008 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
I have heard now several times how women are more in touch and taking control over their lifes better than men are, how we have a better sense of reality and spirituality at the same time, can anyone tell me why is this?

Also, here is a quote from one of our members from another thread I started at another forum here in Lindaland, anyway here is the quote:

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She said the heavens are shifting God is filling women with light and understanding. He wants women to take back thier inheritance, promise, legacy ect... He is filling thier vessels with life. And when I heard that I knew.

From this thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum19/HTML/000203.html

That quote above was the last comment I have heard/read about women transforming themselves to some type of underground leaders for spiritualism -if you will-

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posted February 20, 2008 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone?

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ListensToTrees
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posted February 20, 2008 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I feel that men and women are equal. The feminine and masculine parts of our S-elves in both men and women should be embraced and balanced.

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Beka
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posted February 20, 2008 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beka     Edit/Delete Message
yeah ListensToTrees

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thirteen
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posted February 20, 2008 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
right now the world is off balance and male energy dominates. With the coming shifting of energies that will be completed by 2012, will be the rightful male female balance of energies. To me this means women will come into their natural power. This balance is what is needed to heal the planet.

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NAM
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posted February 21, 2008 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
LTT~If men and women are equal then why are there so many (and I mean soooooooooo many) men that don't have a clue about love,life and respect.All they do is just act like animals.

Thirteen~If women are the ones that are coming into their natural power does it mean then that we don't have it right and we are making poor choices? what is this power about? Can you elaborate a little more please.

Thank you.

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thirteen
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posted February 21, 2008 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
Let me see if i can articulate this.
Everything we have in the world is based on energy. Men and women have both male energy and female energy. For whatever reason the male energy in all of us has dominated. Due to that imbalance many of the events that have taken place( world events and personal events) are based on the male energy alone without the balance of female energy. This could lead to decisions being made that aren't necessarily to the good of all involved. Women have this imbalance too so if the energy comes into balance, then i presume women are also changing.Maybe they are feeling it inside but can't explain it. I have read that men sometimes deny their feminine side and this too will come into balance. Me personally, im a business woman and i love the male energy. I thrive in it and do well in it. I have noticed however that in the last several years i have really become more sensitive and my emotions seem to want to come out a lot more. I am embracing the change and looking forward to it all. Also my husb. "wells up" from time to time. He doesn't always understand it but he is ok with it.

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LEXX
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posted February 21, 2008 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
What exactly is male energy and female energy?
As for who is the most spiritual or most screwed up....seems to be both. A world ran exclusively by women or men would be hell.

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posted February 21, 2008 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
I said balance.... not one or the other.
Just the fact alone that you said a world run by one or the other would be hell, shows me you do have a sence of the male and/or female energy. Your starting to remind me of a past member here, ms. scorpio and guess what, im not afraid of you either.

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LEXX
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posted February 21, 2008 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
How odd. I agree with balance. That is why I said exclusively one would be hell.
And why would I want you to be afraid of me?
Glad you are not, but why say such a thing in the first place? Why such anger here? Very strange.
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I said balance.... not one or the other.
Just the fact alone that you said a world run by one or the other would be hell, shows me you do have a sence of the male and/or female energy. Your starting to remind me of a past member here, ms. scorpio and guess what, im not afraid of you either.

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posted February 21, 2008 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
peace

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LEXX
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posted February 21, 2008 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Ok....again, what is male energy, what is female energy? I have noted many explanations which all seem to hold to stereotypes of what is male and what is female.
I am simply wondering how others interpret male energy and female energy, if possible, without resorting to societal stereotyping.

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posted February 21, 2008 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message

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posted February 21, 2008 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Cool peace symbol pic.

I've read that male energy is the active/ giving principle and female is the womb (passive/ receptive).

I was going to say that it was about nurturing, but it goes deeper than this, since both men and women (in their "classic" roles) have their own way of nurturing......

Hmmm.....this is a deep, complex one.

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NAM
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posted February 21, 2008 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know guys, all I am trying to understand is why it feels that every guy I meet I end up being a mother to or a teacher.
It would be nice to meet one guy that is up to speed and is mature.An age doesn't matter here because I have met older guys that are very inmature.

Of course going into detail(as far as why I think they are inmature) can be very complex but I am just trying to relate in an easy and quick way how I feel.

So, after taking a look at how I feel and after I have read some articles I see this pattern about females becoming "a force" with more wisdom and kindness and love , now personally I would not want to be the controllin sex or the one in power, it would be a lot nicer to have someone were you can share issues in a 50/50 manner...
but again, it seems males are slacking and staying behind, or we are growing but growing apart, with different ideals; either one seems to create more problems and it is sad.

I hope I made sense up there^ I am at work and trying to type this quick so I won't get in trouble LOL

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posted February 21, 2008 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
Lexx, not being sarcastic here but if you don't beleive that men and women are created with different driving forces ( aka energy)then why enter this conversation? Am i missing something?

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LEXX
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posted February 21, 2008 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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Lexx, not being sarcastic here but if you don't beleive that men and women are created with different driving forces ( aka energy)then why enter this conversation? Am i missing something?
Yes you are missing something. That is because you do not know me. Thats ok though. Few do. I only show a small part of myself here. You can only judge me by what you have observed, which is only a fraction of who I really am. To those who do know me a bit more, my queries do not come across as strange at all.
OK...Men and women "sense" differently to me. The "what it is" is exactly what I am trying to ascertain. I do not want to go into my experiences with both, as my experiences I assure you are most likely atypical. I am honestly curious about this complex issue. Are we talking all men and all women, or hetero or not? Are we talking of folks who are different as in what some may call two spirited? For example I know straight men who would be seen as very fem and gay men who would be seen as very macho. And women who are hetero with very short hair and traditionally male like mannerisms, whilst some Lesbians are ultra fem with flowing locks and dainty in mannner.
So what is male energy. what is female energy?
I really want to know. Is there truly any difference or is it based on societal stereotypes? I do not know what to think and so I am asking. Is there a problem with asking such a thing?

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Then take into account reincarnation.
A person can gender switch from one incarnation to the next. So where does this male/female energy fit in with our souls whilst not in body?
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posted February 21, 2008 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message
I think its more chemical and biological in nature as oppose to unseen energy. However I reckon the soul itself has its preferred preferences in such things and thus maybe, manipulates our bodies into creating the chemical setups needed for the spin off stereotypes of fem-men and macho-women etcetera.

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posted February 21, 2008 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Then perhaps the perfect evolutionary step would be the fertile androgyne or hermaphrodite physically. Would that also bring about a balance of male and female energy, or do souls have a balance or not?
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I think its more chemical and biological in nature as oppose to unseen energy. However I reckon the soul itself has its preferred preferences in such things and thus maybe, manipulates our bodies into creating the chemical setups needed for the spin off stereotypes of fem-men and macho-women etcetera.

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posted February 21, 2008 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message
Do souls have a balance or not?

I don't know if souls are balanced or not, or if they can even be quantified with such words. But I'm gonna throw this out there anyways, Everyone in this reality has an "purposely" unbalanced soul... why? Because if we had a perfectly balanced soul we would either move to a different reality to watch the thrill of finding balance from a completely different perspective or create our own reality, again for similar purposes. Or we scramble up our soul up again to get back into this game/reality for another whirl.

The weird thing I've noticed about "Balance" when I design games, (and I always make the game play revolve around the quest to achieve it) Once you get there... well its boring, you just want to mix it all up again to see if you can do it a different way.

Care to shed any light on the subject yourself Lexx?

Now as regards humans, I don't think the problem is male/female energy, the problem is people not accepting what they are and learning to deal with it. If you can do that... not matter what preference or biological make you are, balance is a given.

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posted February 21, 2008 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting.

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thirteen
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posted February 22, 2008 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
Lei Kuei....right on, i love your mind.
LEXX..i can't have this conversation with you anymore it is pointless.

ToNAM who was asking great questions..keep asking girl!

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posted February 22, 2008 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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LEXX..i can't have this conversation with you anymore it is pointless.
thirteen...Why are you angry?

Lei_Kuei!

NAM I will leave your thread now.
I did not feel my questions were out of line but seeing how they provoked anger I will go.
It is a good topic!

LTT Zala gave it to me!

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posted February 22, 2008 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
I think its old karma. Its resolved, really.
I wish you well.

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NAM
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posted February 22, 2008 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
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NAM I will leave your thread now.
I did not feel my questions were out of line but seeing how they provoked anger I will go.
It is a good topic!

LTT Zala gave it to me!



I don't think anyone needs to leave, we are just having a conversation about a subject that may raise eyebrows and get some upset for whatever reason , but I feel is exactly what we need to understand better why we are here for; by questioning issues we can maybe come to a middle ground and have some better understanding.

With that said, I agree with what Lei_Huei said:

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Now as regards humans, I don't think the problem is male/female energy, the problem is people not accepting what they are and learning to deal with it. If you can do that... not matter what preference or biological make you are, balance is a given

I have noticed that the biggest problem with people is "not knowing themselves" and hiding behind a false persona so they won't get hurt, I thought this was the problem all along but when I hear/read articles that are suppose to come from people with more insight and those are telling me that there is a difference between men and women then I have to question again my judgement and I wonder if there is really a disadvantage from one to the other, or if men have it tougher and they can not see what is really important, or again, as I said earlier, if we are both growing even further apart.

As far as male/female energy I beleive we all have it as well, but again by not "knowing ourselves" we suppress those feelings and create a false reality that some beleive is the right way to live life.


Let's make some examples...
I have a cousin (female-leo) that thinks when she likes a guy she has to treat him like crap and not show who you really are to manipulate him into liking you... she just moved here from California and I guess ,most people in CA are about "games" and I am trying to show to her that people should not play games and being honest from teh beginning is a better choice all along, but she doesn't see it that way.
She even has a book she is reading that I would naver even pick up that the title of the book is: "Why men love bitches"
and how these women go out of their way to show their men a miserable time so they can be after them like little puppies.

Now, I am sorry but not only I don't want to read that book but I would never want to have a man that has no respect for himself and is following me or is letting me control him...

so, anyway, this is what I was talking about , or part of what I was talking about.

The otehr issues would be on intuition and being intune with the universe, dreams etc. which I don't see hardly any men are like that, and I am so it is hard to find the right person for me when they can not understand this concepts.
I feel like a lonely witch LOL ( a good one though )


Zala???? are you here????

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