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thirteen
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posted February 22, 2008 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
There was a time when i thought i would never find a man who would understand my need for spiritual subjects. WRONG. I found one. They are out there, maybe not in big numbers but you only need one.

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posted February 22, 2008 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I don't want to make this sound like it is just about me.
I was just questioning the idea that most men are in another level that we are; I worry about this in general also because my kids are males so I want to make sure I am ahead of the game when teaching them what is best for them and the world they live in.

I am a firm beleiver that noone can be happy if we don't try and make the people around us happy as well, but we all have choices and between imposing our ideas or controlling or not doing it and not caring at all there is a big huge gap.
Balance is in deed a huge word when you attach it to what people beleive is best for them.

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thirteen
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posted February 22, 2008 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, i see where you are coming from.
I have a 14 yr old step daughter. She seems pretty balanced. I don't have her day in and day out but i can tell you that my hubby and i don't talk to her in stereotypes. We try to encourage her in the things she takes on and we try to not take advantage of her emotions when it is obvious that she is feeling unsafe and insecure. I personally want to help her succeed in the things she likes to do.

But then there is highschool. I don't know what kids that age learn from their peers. I guess i can't control that.

With your young kids you may see more balance in them naturally. Especially if they are indigo kids. As I do with mine, it seems like the kids of today are either really mature and wise for their age or the opposite, always in trouble.

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Solane Star
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posted February 23, 2008 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
Give up the relationship with yourself

When one is fully conscious, would one still have a need for a relationship? Would a man still feel drawn to a woman? Would a woman still feel incomplele without a man?

Enlightened or not, you are either a man or a woman, so on the level of your form identity you not complete. You are one-half of the whole. this incompleteness is felt as male-female attraction, thepull toward the opposite energy polarity, no matter how conscious you are. But in that state of inner connectedness, you feel this pull somwhere on the surface or periphery of your life. Anything that happens to you in that state feels somewhat like that. The whole world seems like waves and ripples on the surface of a vast and deep ocean. You are that ocean and, of course, you are also a ripple, but a ripple that has realized its true identity as the ocean, and compared to that vastness anddepth, the world of waves and ripples is not all that important.

This does not mean that you don't relate deeply to other people or to your partner. In fact, you can relate deeply only if you are conscious of being. Coming from being, you are able to focus beyond the veil of form. In being, male and female are one. Your form may continue to have certain needs, but being has none. It is already complete and whole. If those needs are met, that is beautiful, but whether or not they are met makes no difference to your deep inner state. So it is perfectly possible for an enlightened person, if the need for the male or female polarity is not met, to feel a sense of lack or incompleteness on the other level of his or her being, yet at the same time be totally complete, fulfilled, and at peace within.

Taken from the book " The Power of NOW " by Eckhart Tolle

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posted February 23, 2008 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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Enlightened or not, you are either a man or a woman,
That is true of the standard hetero and gay/lesbian population, at least "physically", but not the diversities of the rest.
Some folks are NOT physically nor psychologically, one or the other.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersexuality
http://www.isna.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgyny
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder
http://www.bodieslikeours.org/forums/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexual
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-dressing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transvestism

What is a male or female was discussed here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/016317.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/016317-2.html

Historical/Myths http://users.skynet.be/lotus/andro/andro0-en.htm

The people with a balance of what is termed by some as having male/female "energies" is discussed here.
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/mereproject/intro.html

quote:
Androgyne=andro+gyn=man+woman (in a single form); [Greek].
This (and the following) page is about humans who are androgynes;
persons who live simultaneously as both genders.

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SimpleMe
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posted February 24, 2008 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimpleMe     Edit/Delete Message

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posted February 24, 2008 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimpleMe     Edit/Delete Message
are nt you LEXX "tied" of THIS?
Laughter is the best medicine quess
so,... perhaps you got this in mind
because its pointless to say when its not heard

because it seems that whatis wanted is read

love

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posted February 24, 2008 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message

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Solane Star
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posted February 24, 2008 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message

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posted February 24, 2008 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
Quote from above:

But in that state of inner connectedness, you feel this pull somwhere on the surface or periphery of your life. Anything that happens to you in that state feels somewhat like that. The whole world seems like waves and ripples on the surface of a vast and deep ocean. You are that ocean and, of course, you are also a ripple, but a ripple that has realized its true identity as the ocean, and compared to that vastness anddepth, the world of waves and ripples is not all that important.

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posted February 24, 2008 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimpleMe     Edit/Delete Message
Solane Star

your so apprreciative :-)

at work in the young and dynamic place there are only 3 people single: me, Zane (official, just came out Gay boy) and Kate (very quiet, focused girl).
Others are not happy and fighting with partners, some are quiet wars, some are bloody ones for decades...Chaos.
Rarely a soulmate couple.
Newtown is the place of gay community in Sydney. Why i love to walk in Newtown, becuase i dont subscribe for either man or female point of view.Kings street there is my street in the city "lonely" :-) There are no such just a female or male "energy" . NEVER was.

its our mind sorts things out this way while heart remains closed.

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Solane Star
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posted February 24, 2008 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
Bless You SimpleME!!!


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posted February 24, 2008 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimpleMe     Edit/Delete Message
happy Monday,my dear Solane:-)


Sincere

Ms No-one

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SimpleMe
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posted February 24, 2008 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimpleMe     Edit/Delete Message

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Solane Star
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posted February 24, 2008 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, I think Some-ONE!!!!


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thirteen
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posted February 25, 2008 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
Yes there is definately male energy and there is definately female energy. Sometimes the combination of the two is balanced in differently in each human. Any balance of male energy and female energy is ok because the person chose to come in to the planet with that balance. I am not saying that that is not ok.
Im simply saying there is too much male energy on the planet right now. This has nothing to do with any one individual person.

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posted February 25, 2008 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
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posted February 25, 2008 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
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