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Mannu
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posted August 02, 2008 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
"The Crowd is Untruth" - Søren Kierkegaard

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koiflower
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posted August 03, 2008 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message

I have many interests (My jupiter being in gemini), astronomy, astrology, NDE, Life after Death, Alien contacts, Science, the Holy Spirit, Oriental cats, to name a few.

Life is interesting....

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koiflower
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posted August 03, 2008 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
double up

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Mannu
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posted August 03, 2008 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
My peace doubles up...
yeah, venus in gemini

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LEXX
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posted August 03, 2008 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
koiflower

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I could live happily high on a mountain alone.... oh wait... with a cat.

Solitude does not bother me. While its wonderful to have a beloved, when I did not I discovered that one can be more lonely with many others than by one's self.
I notice that people make me feel more lonely than just being alone with myself. Also they can be draining. Indeed there is a vast difference between being lonely and being alone.
I happen to enjoy my own company very much!
And of course 1 or more cats!

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It is not about waiting for storms to pass...it is about learning to dance in the rain!
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ListensToTrees
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posted August 03, 2008 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message

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Obe
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posted August 04, 2008 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obe     Edit/Delete Message
Beautifully said, Heart-Shaped Cross
I don't know if this classifies as bowl chart

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Obe
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posted August 04, 2008 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obe     Edit/Delete Message
No, I'm not a british knight... , but I have had some scary obe experiences

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted August 04, 2008 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Hang in there, LTT.
You'll find love.
I know you will.


Thank you, Obe.
Wow, you have a beautiful chart!
It's not technically a bowl,
but it is darn close.
I wouldnt be surprised if you experience
some of the themes assciated with bowl charts.

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sesame
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posted August 05, 2008 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Hey, I think I have a bowl:

Is there any other info on this? It's quite interesting, but a lot of these influences seem to be explained by being a double three, sag rising, gem sun, virgo moon, etc. It all adds up, but I guess it's more about the lack of some major thing that should make life make sense, but of course, it never does. I think I understand you a little bit more HSC

Cheers,
Dean.

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Mannu
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posted August 05, 2008 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
I guess this bowl chart represents an introvert personality.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted August 05, 2008 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
hey dean,

yeah, that is definitely a bowl.
There's gotta be more info out there.
I would just google "bowl chart"
or "chart configurations".
Good luck!


Mannu,

No, I dont think so.
A bundle chart might, tho.
Or any chart with an overwhelming
emphasis on the Yin signs and houses,
especially in the lower or left half of the chart.
The upper and right half of the chart tend toward extraversion,
or, at least, greater involvement with others and the world.

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posted August 05, 2008 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
"Photograph" by Weezer
If you want it, you can have it
But you've got to learn to reach out there and grab it

'Cause everybody wants some love
Shooting from the stars above
And though my heart will break
There's more that I could take
I could never get enough

If you need it, you should show it
'Cause you might play so monastic that you blow it

'Cause everybody wants some, ooh
Something they can barely know
And though my heart will break
There's more that I could take
I could never let it go

It's in the photograph
It's in the photograph
It's in the photograph of love

'Cause everybody wants a dream
Something they can barely see
And though my heart will break
There's more that I could take
I could never let it be

It's in the photograph
It's in the photograph
It's in the photograph of love

If you blew it, don't reject it
Just sit drawing up the plans and re-erect it
Just sit drawing up the plans and re-erect it
Just sit drawing up the plans and re-erect it


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Obe
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posted August 05, 2008 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obe     Edit/Delete Message
yeah, there is a source of constant love, just infinite pathways for it to flow.

one of the things I keep thinking about that Linda said is something like that we need to work on "untangling happiness from sadness"

until I read that, it had never crossed my mind even to wonder about why it is that sweet-sad songs are so pleasant to listen to...why they wrench the heart...and after I read those words it was like I could finally see what was going on in the background, and that form of vision keeps getting clearer and clearer...it is how we all have been controlled and it keeps going and going...things are all confused and cut up seeming simply because the obvious fact that happiness is being tainted by sadness and therefore sadness is becoming a form of happiness is becoming more and more a part of the unconscious. We will always be confused as to why we have the emotions we have if we keep allowing this to happen

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Mannu
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posted August 05, 2008 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
I think, Hitler was an introvert but he was still pulled in to public life. He too had a bowl perhaps have to check.


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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted August 05, 2008 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
I like sweet sad songs.

I think they are cathartic.

A way to bring emotions up from the depths.

And to transform the dark into light.


Though my soul may set in darkness, it will rise in perfect light;
I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night.

~ Sarah Williams

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maklhouf
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posted August 06, 2008 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maklhouf     Edit/Delete Message
So, Obe, who did you used to be ... did I know you. Don't be scared of the obe, but treat it with respect

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The stone which the builders rejected, The same was made the head of the corner;
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posted August 06, 2008 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Obe,

Yes HSC....I feel sad songs do that.
And thanks for the support.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted August 06, 2008 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
The 9 Principles of Change


Principle 1:
People who successfully navigate change have positive beliefs.
Your biggest need right now is to develop new beliefs: about yourself, about this change, and about life in general. Nothing will have a bigger impact on the way you move through change.

Principle 2:
People who successfully navigate change know that change always brings something positive into their lives.
Every change has a gift associated with it. While it’s natural to find change hard it’s important to remember that there are two sides to every coin and that something positive will always come. This is by far the most important belief to have during the first thirty days of change.

Principle 3:
People who successfully navigate change know they are resilient, strong, and capable of getting through anything.
You are much stronger, much smarter, and much more intuitive than you have ever been told. You are more resilient and more powerful. Once you truly know and believe this, you will be able to get through any change- even the hardest one you can imagine.

Principle 4:
People who successfully navigate change know that every challenging emotion they feel is not going to stop them and will guide them to positive emotions that help them feel better.
Negative emotions can stall us, making change harder, while the positive ones can help us move through a change in a simpler, quicker, and more conscious way.

Principle 5:
People who successfully navigate change know that the quicker they accept the change, the less pain and hardship they will feel.
Let go of the idea of how life should be.

Principle 6:
People who successfully navigate change use empowering questions and words, think better thoughts, and express their feelings.
At your most stuck point, if you can speak with different words, think a slightly better thought, and get in touch with how you are feeling, you can become unstuck in a matter of minutes.

Principle 7:
People who successfully navigate change know they are connected to something bigger than themselves.
When everything around you is changing, look for the part of you that doesn’t change. The part that is calm, centered and always there.

Principle 8:
People who successfully navigate change are not alone; they surround themselves with people who can help, who have the right beliefs and skills. And they create an environment that supports their change. One of our biggest flaws as human beings is that we keep thinking we are alone. Whatever the situation, there is always, always someone who can help.

Principle 9:
People who successfully navigate change take action. They have a plan and know how to take care of themselves.
Actions come in many forms. Some are big and obvious; some are so small you may think they are irrelevant. But any good action you take is a choice to move forward.

http://www.first30days.com/ariane/principles

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Obe
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posted August 06, 2008 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obe     Edit/Delete Message
Maklhouf--very likely we have known each other, I'm sure all of us here at Lindaland have something very similar in our souls--what do you mean don't be scared of the obe?
they have been the most terrifying experiences to me...

LTT do you also think about that specific thing I mentioned that Linda spoke of?

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posted August 07, 2008 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
LTT do you also think about that specific thing I mentioned that Linda spoke of?

Untangling happiness from sadness?

To find the way...to make sadness

rhyme with gladness?


Yes, I have often dreamed and pondered such things.

I don't know though.

Sometimes this world feels like the devil's playground, and I feel that something sinister may presently be its ruler. But I also feel, that it doesn't have to be this way.


I am going through a phase in which I feel mentally, physically and emotionally exhausted.

But yes, I will try to stay focussed and positive.

I'm only human though.

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posted August 07, 2008 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Every work of art is an affirmation, however dark and brooding.
It may be that the greatest affirmation is provided by the darkest work,
for, here, the artist affirms creation even in the midst of the blackest pitch,
shrinking neither from the darkness, nor the work of expressing it;
while despair never lifts the brush, and hope scarcely feels its weight.

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posted August 07, 2008 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
What is it all for though?....I wonder...

Weaving some kind of cosmic web.
The dance of life.

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posted August 07, 2008 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I need to go and look at some crop circles.

I always find them strangely uplifting.

Hopefully I'll have broadband at home by next week.

So I might watch some online documentaries about them then.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted August 07, 2008 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
The Sun is a brilliant light,
But light must be carried underground.
And only a candle can serve.

Have you been blinded in the darkest depths?
You will be blinded in the light, as well.
Look around you now.

Confusion is a genius.
Fear is a prophet,
crying in the wilderness,
"Do not devalue your darkness!"
It is a call from your soul,
as lovely as your light.

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I am Void; -
severe spectre of occult industry.
Solemn am I, sombre long before the world,
shrouded in myth and song.

I am Ocean; -
Deep in splendor,
storyteller with salted breath.

I do not decry the sober dark;
I give birth to agitative visions!

I am Awe; -
inscrutable light,
whom the fibrous eye of the poet covets.

Source of Orphic bliss,
that beats and quivers in mists unfathomed,
'neath soft, encaging, elliptical boughs.

I am Solitude, inconsolate;
modest juggernaut of Saturn,
just beyond the ornamental throne of Jupiter;
the Stillness of Fate, inside of Fire.

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