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Topic: The Sad Truth, Why Most People Will Not Wake Up
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Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 9583
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted January 08, 2009 06:08 PM
 
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Why? Do you assume i wouldnt? I believe we invite everything good thing and disaster to us. Even poison. Maybe you wouldve "invited" me there to tell you. So I would.
And maybe there are people out there who have invited Commander Constant-Haze to "wake them up"? quote:
There's always a chance you might not believe me, if i told you anyway.
I'll take that chance, lol. Give me that chance, lol!
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26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 15481
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Registered: Jun 2004
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posted January 08, 2009 06:20 PM
It comes back to 'when the "student" (i'd prefer "other") is ready...' After awhile you become adept at being able to tell who is open to what you might have to say and who you would be wasting your breath on, just by what they are saying to you. People are constantly giving themselves away and most people already have their minds made up and ears closed. I think there is a lot to be said in leadiing by example. I prefer to be and let others pick up what they wish. All I can do it be me. If you learn something, great. If you hate me, i'm sorry. But I have nothing to teach you. I don't feel a strong urge to prove my points, though I will still make them from time to time. That might be obvious by now. It might come across as laziness, but it's really not. Other's may wish to take a more outspoken route and I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Unless they start yelling in my ear.  I don't like being pushed out of bed.
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26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 15481
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posted January 08, 2009 06:31 PM
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And maybe there are people out there who have invited Commander Constant-Haze to "wake them up"?
I know what you are saying. And that's why I said I appreciate these kinds of experiences in the other post. He is reminding me of many things and most importantly that I have to not let these types annoy me. Why do they? Why should they? It's my own choice in how I decide how to react to it. That's why this place is great. A lot of growth can take place. IP: Logged |
26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 15481
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posted January 08, 2009 06:32 PM
And maybe he will wake up more people to join his causes. And that will be right for them. I'll stand by and watch.IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 9583
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
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posted January 08, 2009 06:33 PM
I think I can probably tell just as well as you can when a person is likely to change their mind right then and there, and if I only believed in, or only wanted to see, immediate results, I, too, could talk only to those people who are right at the tipping point. But I believe that, just because they do not change their minds (or admit it) in that moment, I may still be planting seeds and watering seeds of doubt. And that's just one of the reasons I persist as I do. I think, for many people, ideas cannot be accepted unless they have been heard a few times.. some people cant even accept an idea unless it is popular and reflects the status quo. The more revolutionary your ideas, the more you have to get them out there. People hear them enough and pretty soon they start to listen. Also, when you are supporting your ideas with rational arguments, that helps reach people too. Some people arent ready to receive an unsupported idea, but they may "get it" when its accompanied by an impressive argument. Thats how I see it. And I still dont know what I think about you and all your motives, but they continue to intrigue me. I think your way has merits, and I think mine does too. I take issue with some of the perspectives you voice in support of your ways, but I rarely take issue with your ways.IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 9583
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
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posted January 08, 2009 06:34 PM
I like the other stuff you said.  I'm out for now,
take care,
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26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 15481
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Registered: Jun 2004
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posted January 08, 2009 06:53 PM
I don't have motives HSC. I just speak my mind here when the thoughts come to me. This place is great for that. Take them or leave them is all i ask! My thoughts are often very loose and I'm never looking for a heated debate though i find myself in them sometimes. My forte is not writing impressive arguements or trying to sway people. I just say what I want to at a certain moment in time. I might disagree with it the next day. I'm thankful that many people here just ignore me and my exercising. And surprised when they get upset with something when that wasnt my intention. I had another point i wanted to add but it has slipped my mind now. Thanks for understanding my ways. IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees
Knowflake Posts: 5880
From: UK
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted January 08, 2009 07:09 PM
"Let those who have ears hear"'nuff said IP: Logged |
26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 15481
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posted January 08, 2009 07:16 PM
tee hee  IP: Logged |
26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 15481
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posted January 08, 2009 07:34 PM
Pretty idn't it?shhhh everybody listen now.  IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 9583
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted January 08, 2009 07:58 PM
Well said, both of you.**************************************************************************************** Those who have ears to hear this, let them hear it. And those who have ears to hear something else, let them hear that, too. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 9583
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
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posted January 08, 2009 08:10 PM
About the Mercury, though...My mom works for an HMO and when I confronted her about this she said it was an issue years ago, but they did a study with the children of the HMO staff as guinea pigs and the kids exhibited no more autism, on average, than those vaccinated without the mercury. So, I don't know. Maybe someone fudged the study. Has anybody got any hard evidence on the Mercury thing? Even the specialist cited in the video only says "its possible that there may be" a link between Thymerisol and autism. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 9583
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
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posted January 09, 2009 02:32 PM
Also, T,I wanted to say that it seems very unrealistic to suppose that all the people are going to withdraw at once... if withdrawal were the higher path, then, all the evolved souls would withdraw and the thoroughly unenlightened would take control, in such a way that people would have greater difficulty liberating their hearts and minds. This is realistic, as these things happen gradually. Think of it. Prisons exist, in part, to segregate dangerous people from the rest of society. What you seem to be suggesting is that the helpful people ought to segregate themselves from society. In the case of prisons, negative elements are taken out, while, according to your method, positive elements appear (to me) to be taken out. And this is what troubles me. Withdrawal from the world ought to be more symbollic, I think. Otherwise, it seems like a pitfall into spiritual materialism. "Be in the world, but not of it." ~ Jesus "He who cannot find peace in the marketplace, seeks for it in vain within the monastery." ~ Meister Eckhart So, I guess, the question is, How do we "go within", without silencing ourselves, or neglecting to play our part in the life of men? There is an escape from the world, and we are right to seek it. But maybe the only way out is through? In other words, perhaps one should attempt to avoid the debate without avoiding the discussion?
...Questioning...
hsc
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ListensToTrees
Knowflake Posts: 5880
From: UK
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted January 09, 2009 03:06 PM
quote:
But maybe the only way out is through?
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ListensToTrees
Knowflake Posts: 5880
From: UK
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted January 09, 2009 03:07 PM
By the way, just want to point out...I wasn't being sarcastic or anything in my other remark...I used the grinning smilie because when I first posted, I said something rude/ naughty for a joke....then I decided to edit it out afterward. IP: Logged |
Ariefairy
Knowflake Posts: 52
From: Mars
Registered: May 2008
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posted January 09, 2009 03:32 PM
im new to this forum thing. hello all. im addy.IP: Logged |
Ariefairy
Knowflake Posts: 52
From: Mars
Registered: May 2008
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posted January 09, 2009 03:58 PM
ok, i have got the hang now where the start and finish is.... i saw the you tube vid. it happens in england too.. i feel i was drawn here for a reason, the very reason that fuels my existence ..one of those little enlightening moments that assures you that you aren't crazy, your thoughts and feelings are right, just follow the trail... its just the rest of the world that is blind. and it hurts. i have figured out more than i can chew, and its a painfully fallable fact that the world is in the hands of those who deem it fit to view the perception of all life as theirs to control with god like power. no one has this right. the world exists on the foundations of Universal Laws, which are not taught. but abused by those who fail to teach them, and manipulate our reality, knowledge (now we know), truth (hurt)... IP: Logged |
katatonic
Knowflake Posts: 678
From: ca, usa
Registered: Jan 2008
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posted January 09, 2009 04:34 PM
and one of those laws, indeed one of the most basic of them, is that what goes around comes around. "and the meek shall inherit the earth" because the perpetrators are shooting themselves in the foot as we speak. by all means gather information. but there is a lot of false information as well, so it does take a lot of research to glean the good from the bad...and speaking theoretically, since we do not die but just go round and round (of course without hard evidence this is also conjecture) maybe we are just up for this and the only way out IS "through" IP: Logged |
26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 15481
From: *
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted January 09, 2009 04:40 PM
*thoughts change.... IP: Logged |
Ariefairy
Knowflake Posts: 52
From: Mars
Registered: May 2008
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posted January 09, 2009 04:56 PM
thankyou. your reply is reassuring...and yes..i agree with you, there is alot of false information...but intuition is the best tool i find...energy cannot be destroyed, it transfers....the symbol of the snake eating its own tail reflects the cycle...of eternity. the body is a 'flesh temple' for the spirit, which transcends when the temple ceases. its not something that substantiates with 'evidence' to proove, i agree,but some things you can just 'feel'. some things, you know. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 14203
From: Pleasanton, CA, USA
Registered: May 2005
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posted January 09, 2009 10:17 PM
I agree with most of what 26T has said here. I've already forgotten what she said about Maya and all that but I wasn't offended by it.I think people asking us to "Wake up" are generally annoying, too (thanks Lotus). I'm not much for well-intentioned conspiracy theorists either. If that's all they're bringing to the table, I'm not hungry. Another annoyance is the posting of videos without description or title. That's all. IP: Logged |
26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 15481
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posted January 09, 2009 10:24 PM
Thanks for sayin'.IP: Logged |
26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 15481
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posted January 09, 2009 10:25 PM
I don't click on most video links either. Especially without a title.IP: Logged |
26taurus
Knowflake Posts: 15481
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posted January 09, 2009 10:32 PM
On Maya:
http://www.hinduwebsite.com/beliefinmaya.asp IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees
Knowflake Posts: 5880
From: UK
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted January 10, 2009 02:52 AM
When WE walk away, the pyramid must fall because WE are holding it up.  IP: Logged |
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