posted January 24, 2011 10:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Cancer/Scorpio729:
Glaucus,
I don't think IQ was supporting the caste system in any way. He was supporting karma, and karma does not automatically equal caste system. The caste system is the result of humans misunderstanding karma. They understood that making one of lower caste suffer would give them what they deserved for being born in that position, not realizing that the best way to help them would be to forgive. I see absolutely nothing wrong in what IQ was saying.

I don't think you know Glaucus, the caste system has been banned for many years now. The word "dalit" in Hindi, or "untouchable" in English is equated to the term "negro" used against African Americans. Yes, it is still very rigid in rural areas in India (same as racism in poorer areas of the U.S.) but Hindus do not actively condemn those of a lower caste. Caste crimes still exist, but are on the decline.

Abolishment of the caste system has officially existed since 1950. 150 years after the Civil War, the U.S. still has racism issues. Can you expect something that has been engrained in the minds of individuals for thousands of years to be completely gone in a mere 50? Progress is slow, but it is being made. The children of untouchables are still poor, they still live in slums and they are still oppressed. But they are given more opportunities than before. Justice is now available to them without bias. Their stories are publicized and shown on the news. I'm not saying that there isn't room for improvement, but progress is being made.

Do not condemn Karma as an evil belief because it led to the caste system. The caste system was (and is) human ignorance.

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I am well aware of caste system being officially abolished and other things that you pointed out to me. However, the laws aren't enforced. The caste system still unofficially exists. I have been well aware of that since 2005.

That's the whole point of the Dalit Activist's article which included the following:

" There are plenty of laws in Caste India against untouchability, and every other atrocities against Dalits - but have any of these laws ever be implemented anytime in Caste India? No! Never!! Because these laws are only on books - mere words written on a piece of paper - no one can eat a fruit drawn on a paper! Right!! Numerous Dalits are butchered everyday! Every Dalit is oppressed and suppressed mentally and physically from the day he/she is born!! Thousands of Dalit women are paraded naked, rapped and gang rapped. But, have anyone heard of these animals who perpetrated these heinous crimes punished ever? No! Why? Before the ink dries on writing about one crime, the evil hindus commit hundreds of crimes on Dalits trenched in blood, all with the full support and encouragement of the evil caste hindu machinery. It is because the criminals are committing all these crimes as per the teachings of the hindu Satanic Cult. Also, the so-called laws and rules of Caste India do not make these hindu criminals feel a bit scared or afraid. All the laws are in fact dead-letter laws in Caste India. When the Dalits occasionally gather enough courage to go to the police to file a complaint against the evil caste hindus, the police routinely file cases against the Dalits themselves, torture them and put them in jails. No laws against the barbarous hindu Satanic Cult ever are implemented in Caste India - BANANA Republic! - A country of LAW OF JUNGLE or JUNGLE RAJ!!"

Everything that you explained to me is in that article on the caste system.
You talk to me like I can't read.

The untouchability issue is so bad that people formed

Dalit Freedom Network http://www.dalitnetwork.org/

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posted January 24, 2011 10:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Glaucus:

Everything that you explained to me is in that article on the caste system.
You talk to me like I can't read.

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I'm sorry if I came off like that. I didn't mean to offend you by talking as if you didn't know your facts. The stuff on the political side of this was because what you wrote came off to me as if you didn't know things are improving. Where I live in Punjab, I've only seen and heard of better conditions. Though my family may not be the best judge of such things, sorry again.

posted January 24, 2011 10:45 PM            

Legal and Political

The Constitution of India has special provisions dealing with the abolition of Untouchability. Central Legislation exists in the form of the Protection of Civil Rights Act 1955 and the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Prevention of Atrocities Act 1989. In colleges and universities and in state employment positive discrimination exists and a percentage of seats and jobs are reserved for those from the socially and economically backward sections of society.

But the practice of untouchability continues and Dalits continue to live outside villages, excommunicated from society. They are denied entry into temples, they are not allowed to share community wells, they are forced to drink water from separate glasses in some rural cafes, and they are frequently attacked or abused if any sign of defiance is shown. When they cross an upper caste house they routinely alight from their bicycles and push the bicycle rather than ride it. When walking in front of a powerful upper caste man's house, they take off their footwear till they clear the exclusion zone. The police are reluctant to register their complaints or investigate cases filed by them. Some decade-old massacres of Dalits have not yet reached the prosecution stage.

Strangely, the Sudras or the so-called backward castes have become advocates of political Hinduism or Hindutva, and have emerged as the biggest threat to Dalit rights. The backward castes have progressed economically over the past century, and being peasant communities, their interests clash with those of the landless Dalits.

The Dalit Response

Dr. B.R. Ambedkar is one of the most famous Indians of the last century. Father of the Indian Constitution and one of the greatest Indian intellectuals and political agitators, Dr. Ambedkar was born into an 'untouchable' caste. After 2000 years of Manu's anti-human laws when India needed a new lawgiver, she turned to one who was born an 'untouchable'.

In 1956 Dr. Ambedkar, along with half a million other Dalits, converted to Buddhism - Dr. Ambedkar's interpretation of Buddhism is a modern and humanistic one. Such is the intensity of the problem and the yearning for dignity that many Dalits are converting to Christianity, and thereby foregoing the meagre advantage of educational and job reservations for Dalits (see Surepally Sujatha's article on page 21) but denied to those who convert to Islam or Christianity.

Dalits themselves have begun to organise themselves politically. Several political parties exist today: Republican Party of India, Bahujan Samaj Party, Dalit Panthers etc. Ill served by its leaders, the Dalit movement has been reduced to asking for more reservations in educational institutions and jobs in governments, whereas they should be asking for reform in society. NGOs play an important role in creating awareness - but unfortunately many are religiously inspired and tend to push sectarian agendas. Important work is being done by the National Campaign on Dalit Human Rights, the secular Dalit Social Forum etc. Organisations like the Centre for Dalit Studies and other Ambedkarite organisations make information available about the various government schemes for the advancement of Dalits.

The government has appointed numerous commissions of inquiry, like the Justice Punnaiah Commission, to find out more about the status of the Dalits in the country and to explore remedial measures. The recommendations stress the vital role that education can play, and the need for an active role for the Police and the District Administration.

http://www.iheu.org/node/1814

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posted January 24, 2011 11:55 PM            

President Obama should highlight oppressive and inhuman caste system-culture in India
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Published by Vivek Nirala on Oct 03, 2010
Category: International Affairs
Region: GLOBAL
Target: President of USA and Prime Minister of India
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Background (Preamble):
President Obama should highlight oppressive and inhuman caste system-culture in India & pay homage to Indian Lincoln Dr. B. R. Ambedkar, Founding father of modern India on his visit to India in November 2010

Indian Lincoln Dr. Ambedkar—father of modern India and the Indian constitution, graduate of Columbia University, Oxford-educated scholar, and the first law minister of India after its independence—was from a Dalit community and so created constitutional rights for these poor people. This Indian constitution guarantees equality, liberty, fraternity, and social justice; however, the subsequent state and federal governments have utterly failed to protect Dalits by not following the constitutional codes.
 Every hour in India, two Dalits (untouchables of South Asia) are brutally assaulted.
 Every day, three Dalit women are raped, two Dalits are murdered, and two Dalit homes are burned.
 37% of Dalits live below the poverty line in India.
 More than half (54%) of Dalit children are undernourished in India.
 85 per 1,000 children born in Dalit communities die before their first birthday.
 45% of Dalits do not know how to read or write in India.
 Dalit women bear double discrimination (gender and caste) in India.
 About one-third of Dalit households do not have basic facilities, such as toilets.
 90% of the villages do not have burial ground for the dead.
 There are more children forced into labor in India than throughout the whole world put together.
 Human trafficking and prostitution of poor people are rampant

(Source: Ministry of Welfare of the Government of India, Annual Report 1992–1993)
Crimes against Dalits increase yearly (135,771 cases were reported in 1999; 137,492 cases were reported in 2000). More than 28,000 incidents of crime against scheduled caste/scheduled tribe (SC/ST) Indians were committed in 2005, according to the National Crimes Records Bureau. There are numerous massacres, and Dalit carnages take place under the nose of state governments and law enforcement officials.

REGISTERED ATROCITIES IN INDIA, 1999–2004
Year FIRs filed & Cases Registered under SC/ST Act Poor Conviction rate in the Courts FIR Cases Regist-
ered under PCR Act Con-viction
in the Courts under PCR Total FIR Cases Registered on Atrocity Total Convic-tion in Courts % of Convictions
1999 25093 655 4450 45 29543 700 2.36
2000 23742 901 3958 81 27770 982 3.54
2002 27894 3748 526 150 28420 3898 13.71
2003 22603 2727 651 13 23254 2740 11.78
2004 23629 3259 126 34 23755 3293 13.86
Total 122961 11290 9711 323 132672 11613 8.75

* Data for 2001 are not available.
(Source: Annual Report of Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment of India)
The conviction rate under the SC/ST Prevention of Atrocities Act is 15.71%, and as much as 85.37% of cases are pending. The Indian government enacted the SC/ST Prevention of Atrocities Act in 1989. Unfortunately, it has proved to be lame duck legislature. Nothing has improved, or even changed, for the Dalits. Many atrocity cases remain unreported by the casteist police, so the judicial system does not register the crimes. The caste-dominated newspapers also do not report atrocities.

A recent study of untouchability in rural India that covered 565 villages in 11 states found the following:
 Public health workers refused to visit Dalit homes in 33% of villages.
 Dalits were prevented from entering the police station in 27.6% of villages.
 Dalit children had to sit separately while eating in 37.8% of government schools.
 Dalits did not get mail delivered to their homes in 23.5% of villages.
 Dalits were denied access to water sources in 48.4% of villages.
 Half of India’s Dalit children are undernourished and 21% are severely underweight.
 Literacy rates for Dalit women are as low as 37.8% in rural India.

Untouchability in schools has contributed to drop-out and illiteracy levels for Dalit children far beyond those of the general population, with the “literacy gap” between Dalits and non-Dalits hardly changing since India’s independence. Democracy does not mean anything to Dalits, as they are treated below animals in Hindu society.

Dalit women, who alongside “tribal” women are the poorest of the poor in India, face double discrimination on the basis of caste and gender in all spheres of life. They are subjected to gross violations of their physical integrity, including sexual abuse by dominant castes, and are socially excluded and economically exploited.
The National Commission for Scheduled Castes has observed substantial under allocation and under expenditure of the allocation for Dalit welfare and development under the government’s Special Component Plan for Scheduled Castes. Dalits are subjected to bonded and forced labor and discriminated against in a range of markets, including the labor, housing, consumer, capital, and credit markets. They are paid lower wages and subjected to longer working hours and delayed wages. Verbal and physical abuse takes place in broad daylight in public, at times in front of the police.

Brahmin, Shatriya, and Vaishya castes make up 15% of the population, yet claim about 65% of the upper-level jobs (see the following table). This is another form of casteism and discrimination.
Caste Population Politics Employed Commerce Land Education
Brahmin 3.5 41.0 62 10 5 -----
Shatriya 5.5 15.0 12 27 80 -----
Vaishya 6.0 10.5 13 60 9 -----
Total 15 66.5 87 97 94 78
SC 15.0 11.0 4 0.1 0.5 6
ST 7.5 7.6 1 0.1 0.5 2
OBC 52.0 8.0 7 0.8 4.0 2
Minorities 10.5 3.0 1 2.0 1.0 2
Total 85.0 33.5 13 3.0 6.0 22
(Source: Mahanayak, Marathi daily newspaper from Bombay, P1, Head News, 4-30-2006)

Dr. Ambedkar, who fought for civil rights struggle for abolishing caste and untouchability, made the new India possible. Imagine an India that has no dalit/adivasi or minority participation in the administrative, bureaucratic and knowledge structures. Imagine no dalit participation in the higher echelons of the nation in this century. Dalits constitute 16.5 per cent of Indian population and President Obama, as a first black President to visit India, should ideally take note of this.

As we know about Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King, Americans should also know about Dr. B. R. Ambedkar. President Obama has done a lot to popularize Gandhi, and he could also do the same for Dr. Ambedkar if he visits Nagpur Deekshabhoomi or Chaityabhoomi, Mumbai. The Deekshabhoomi does not represent just Ambedkar’s idea of India but also the secular Buddhist tradition of the nation.
The Bahujan communities (85%, Schedule Castes, Schedule tribes and other backward castes (OBC) and minorities) would be happy if he also pays homage to Dr B R Ambedkar. This will make his visit a historic event. As such, they are looking forward to President Obama’s visit as he symbolizes the hope of freedom for oppressed people across the world. As President Obama emerged out of the historic struggles of the blacks in the US, his visit could also inspire the movement for the abolition of caste, the Indian variety of slavery. Dr. Ambedkar is the best historical link between the Indian oppressed communities and also the blacks of America.

Dr. Ambedkar was not only the father of the constitution of India but also the liberator of all oppressed people. The ruling classes do see the similarities between Dalit-Bahujan struggles and the black struggles the masses can make out that historical linkage. The religious minorities also look up to Dr. Ambedkar as a Buddhist. President Obama, being a Christian, shares the blood of a Muslim father. If he pays homage to a Buddhist Ambedkar, he will be respecting the multi-cultural tradition of India. This will also attract global attention to Dr. Ambedkar’s legacy, life and philosophy.

India as a nation has the Buddhist cultural & tradition as Buddha was born/grew up and built his spiritual and social Sangha system in India. No other icon than Dr. Ambedkar can represent that cultural heritage in the modern period.

Will our ruling class ensure that President Obama at least lays a garland on the statue of Ambedkar in parliament premises? Such a deviation from protocol will respond to the changing needs of the nation and will be positive and desirable.

President Obama was keen to learn about the plight of the untouchables during his student years. And interestingly, both he and Dr. Ambedkar were educated at Columbia University. It could also turn out to be an occasion for the country to come to terms with the caste and untouchability problem in the international arena. The stance of caste denial taken by the Indian government in the United Nations had done some damage.
Petition:
On behalf of the more than 260 million Dalits (untouchables of South Asia) who live in India, we plead to the President of the United States— the leader on human rights issues and pioneer in protecting suffering humans -— to honor the Indian Lincoln Dr. Ambedkar and to call on the leaders of India including Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and ask them why pervasive human rights violations persist. As the President of United States, we hope you feel the moral responsibility to protect the innocent and persecuted Dalits.

We are confident the U.S. government can do a lot to change the Indian administration and hope to see an investigation into the gross violation of human rights. Dalits in India seek justice from the Indian government under your tutelage.

To create awareness around the Globe and empower the underprivileged community and secure their rights, we, the undersigned, request President Obama and Prime Minister Singh to:
(1) Take steps in the right direction by taking Obama to Deekshabhoomi and let America know Indian caste system.
(2) Honor and recognize Dr. Ambedkar, who is the best character, national builder and founding father of Modern India, who has provided a positive role model for the Indian society as well as the International communities.
(3) Pay homage to Dr. Ambedkar at Chaityabhoomi, Mumbai or at the Ambedkar statue in the parliament during President Obama’s visit to India.
(4) Make every possible effort to create awareness about Hindu caste discrimination and develop a caste free society.
(5) Impress upon the Government of India and other policy makers the absolute need to get rid of caste oppression and caste discrimination.
(6) Provide justice to the neglected dalits in India, who are forced to live the life without basic freedoms and human rights due to the discriminatory, oppressive, and inhuman caste system-culture in India.
(7) Address the ongoing problems of untouchability afflicting a population in India as large as the aggregate population of USA.
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posted January 25, 2011 04:48 AM            

Karma is a Universal Law and many Dalits accept this law in a positive manner, and become Buddhists. Buddhism has a very strong teaching revolving around Karma. Vedanta, Taoism, Jainism also have used this Law.
Christian texts subtly mention it. Islam makes it very blunt: "Do evil and perish in Hell, Do good and enjoy in heaven". They are all basing their religious systems on this Universal Law of Karma.

Any philosophy or Law can be misused by those in power to oppress others. Luckily, Law of Karma itself takes care of the oppressors in a fitting manner, as they get to bear the brunt of their own actions in their next incarnation.

posted January 25, 2011 05:29 AM            

What if the reincarnation concept came to exist as a result of the caste system?

What if the reincarnation concept was originated as a method to get people to do what they are told and being resigned to a life of being under others. It could be a form of control.

We have all these conspiracy theories of mind control.

Why is it far-fetched that the reincarnation concept is actually another form of mind control.

What if pastlife memories were actually implanted memories in connected to mind control to help support the reincarnation concept as truth?

I am just coming at it from an alternative perspective even though I have my own beliefs in reincarnation concept that include my own belief in the good work that Brian L. Weiss does.

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Good questions.
Simple answers exist. The technology for Memory Implants and Mind Control matured after 1960s only. Documentation of Reincarnation exists millenia ago.
If centuries ago memory implants were used to falsely teach reincarnation, it would have to be Extra Terrestrial technology.
So now you can choose to either accept Active Extra Terrestrial intervention or Reincarnation.

Check Mate

Buddha fought Casteism and accepted Reincarnation even though Caste Hindus were oppressing by misusing that knowledge. Dalit Heroes like BR Ambedkar also intelligently accepted Reincarnation and Buddhism while rejecting Casteism.

Additionally, people unaware of Casteism and who are not oppressors have recalled their past life memories. Parmahansa Yogananda's team was largely comprised of Westerners.
Many European Theosphists have recalled their incarnations.
It is subjective ofcourse but none of these early 20th century Western Recallers were oppressing Dalits.

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I think that any religious/spiritual beliefs can be questioned as long as one's mind is open.
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True. In science or math, you can question anything safely by experiment and observation, then inference.
For Universal Laws, if you question without first observing, then it is like testing a Grenade's explosiveness without throwing it, because these laws are working within and around us all the time.
The algorithm for Universal Laws is Guess, Read or Know, then Contemplate, then Observe, then Contemplate some more, and then question aspects of it.

posted January 26, 2011 06:22 AM            

With all due respect...I'm still having a difficult time believing that animals who are tortured in laboratories etc or toddlers who are anally raped by grown adults are having it happen to them because of bad karma.

Let's forget about humans for a moment. If it were true that any sentient life form who is being tortured than how can it be possible for animals to suffer such torture at the hands of humans when only humans are capable of torture that is cruel and calculated? Because I don't believe that it makes sense for human souls to reincarnate in a much less sophisticated/ complex physical form after making it all the way to being human. If one looks into an animal's eyes, the heart sees a soul that is....sort of....childlike. My heart tells me that humans do not reincarnate as animals.

posted January 26, 2011 10:05 PM            

For example, personally I don't always see a toddler being harmed by an evil person as the toddlers karma, rather (usually) I see that wrong-minded person as making a choice (for themselves), thus creating/worsening their own karma, you know the horrid types that do evil things constantly, they never show remorse?

I have QUESTIONS though...

Are the victims OF psychos visiting karma or is something brand new happening? Sometimes, never, always? I don't know.
Surely new karma is created by choices.

What about a child who REMEMBERS being their mothers mother in their previous life, remember hurting them and thus receive the same cycle of hurt?
This happens a lot, a 7 year old remembers vividly....

I think Karma is more complex than people would like to admit.

posted January 27, 2011 01:46 AM            

It is not bad karma alone that results in this. I must be a very poor teacher.

Karma works across dimensions.

3D Karma:
You hit some one, you will get hit. Same lifeline. You forgive someone, the karmic debts dissolve.

4D Karma:
Works multi-dimensionally. The Oversoul of Animals can choose to send one member to get sacrificed/consumed by a higher consciousness being to gain Karmic Points for that member, and ultimately release that member to the Oversoul Classification of Humanity or some other Higher Species.
The Oversoul of the specific Human Butcher allows the Butcher an opportunity to evolve as well. Does he kill as a necessity with respect for the animal, or does so coldly?

5D Experiments on 4D and 3D Karma:
This is where the abuse themes play out.
Innocents can suffer needlessly in 3D because of a 5D Decision on a 4D Galactic Battle. Think of the next vegetable you bite.

Genetic Karma and "sins of the ancestors" come into play. Astral Possession by various ET Groups comes into play.

Sacrifice Contracts come into play.

The abused baby's consciousness is not strong enough to suffer beyond a point, it dissociates and perishes tragically after a point. But look at your suffering. How much you are suffering because of the torture of an innocent. THIS SUFFERING is your 4D Karma played out in 3D.
Imagine the suffering of the baby's parents. What if they were Gestapo/Auschwitz Wardens in 1942? What should be their way of releasing the guilt of what torture they did? To help them, sometimes a Soul with too much debt is reborn as the baby. And sometimes a 5th D Soul might choose to incarnate as the baby that gets abused. Call it the Jesus Syndrome. For these 5th D Entities, entire 3D realms are a Hologram, and they can change reality, they can change timelines.
When all karmic debts of all 4D Civilizations are released from 3D suffering, they will erase all the memories of all suffering in a twinkling of an eye.
The Lower Astral demons will be de-constructed into individual elements and purged out through a blackhole type device, allowing fresh opportunity for positive rebirth. The acts of suffering will be erased from existence. So will all memories of guilt by empaths who felt the suffering of others.
This is a Grand, Cosmic Energy "Game" playing out for millions of years.

You cannot understand it from a single Earth Lifeline perspective, you have to think multi-dimensionally to understand this, if you really wish to understand.

@Sunchild: You have understood correctly.
Karma is Multidimensional and hence very Complex in the way it works.
The perpetrator is digging his karmic grave further. He should forgive the past life act and withdraw from abusing in the present.
Also, many remember their past life crimes and may not hesitate to suffer. This is also not the wisest choice, the wiser choice is to love and help others even more.

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posted January 27, 2011 02:02 AM            

If you want to be a boxer, and get in the ring. Lets say Mike Tyson is your first opponent and he breaks your nose.
Is this fair or not?
It is unfair if and only if you never got an opportunity to know about the sport of boxing, and someone conned you into getting into the ring to fight, you may have thought it was for a dance. ["Madagascar 2", the Rite of Passage joke ].

All Souls are made fully aware of the insanity of Planet Earth's surface dwellers before incarnating. If they still aaccept challenges and incarnate, then they have the risk of suffering as well. It is their choice to accept risks and rewards.

posted January 27, 2011 02:49 AM            

However are you surprised by the skepiticism when there are so many lies, half-truths and fear based misconceptions out there?
For me personally I'm afraid to believe anything...or at least I need to see proof, real, solid proof direct and infront of my eyes.... like a 2 year old child speaking in tongues, giving past life details that are reinforced by birth certificates etc.

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing, we need all kinds if people on earth today..it must be so!!

I do believe in Karma because I have always believed in natural law from I can remember, that's why I became interested in astrology so early on.
But religion has knocked the confidence out of me. I can't believe in anything organised anymore...I just can't....However I don't disbelieve anything.

I think in this forum in particular, well this is where we get free reign to question everything occult and more. This is not because we don't believe, and it might just be because we WANT to.......
Your knowledge and teaching has been incalculable, so thank you, but please have patience for those who are questioning for whatever our reasons are.

Glaucus!
Thank you for all your valubale information also. It gives me personally the courage to question further. This is something that is not given to people who belong to church and religious organisations. Ofcourse you are there voluntarily, but being born into something or surrounded and grounded by forces that tell you directly or indirectly...not to question or else you are going to hell...well this really does generate fear...

Note to all...(DISCLAIMER)
I can only speak from personal experience and being raised within the Catholic Church, so I can only apply this to my personal experience of such.

posted January 28, 2011 05:22 AM            

I am usually not impatient, was just taken aback because I thought LTT had cleared the level of Gnosis and was fully aware of the Truth of Universal Laws [God's Mind, Elements, Immortality of the Soul, Karma, Numerology, Astrology etc ].
I learnt my lesson too, I was in denial of it for a very long time. We are not authorized to "prove" Universal Law in 3D. We have no right to take away the gift of Self-Illumination.

We can only give parables/analogies and leave it at that. I must innovate better analogies

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posted January 28, 2011 07:12 AM            

What would a soul gain? What would it lose?

Too much karma, too much pain...many incarnations, many separations...

And the stab of loneliness...away from God

locked in the 3D cycle of negativity and no escape

What would a soul do?

A soul has to break free, a bird has to fly

3D is too dense, too painful, but a Soul has come, to do its duty and raise the Earth's consciousness

in return raising its own vibration

Why pain?

To learn Love.

Why?

To Love those who Love us, who we deem 'worthy' of Love is Love

but to Love those who have hurt us, who have pained us, abused us, wounded us

that Love is liberation

raises the vibration

makes us Light

less dense, higher vibrating bodies, rising, spiralling, ascending to the Higher Dimensions

rising to become Unity

to meet the Eternal Soul of the Creator God

So many lives, separated from you, Lord, this life I return...

For that was always the goal

to return to He who created All Heavens, Master of the Worlds, Lord of the Cosmos

from Him was I sundered long ago and within Him shall I merge

I suffer now, I move through the darkness carrying my light

One day I will ascend to Him that I Love

A soul's karma paid

A soul will merge with Him

And you shall reside in My House and My Heart forever...

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posted January 31, 2011 03:17 AM            

The Whole World is connected. What happens in Arabia will happen in USA and Russia and China.

Global well wishers have helped South Sudan become free.

Good moves by Brazil and Turkey have helped prevent an invasion of Iran.

When pressure is applied by all developed nations to free Gaza from Israeli oppression, then we will see a Karmic Release that prevents many cataclysms.

And for those with alive Minds, what does it mean when the Pyramids are closed for all Tourists? When did that happen last?
Is a 4th Dimensional Matrix being re-constructed whilst the whole world is distracted?

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posted January 31, 2011 07:23 AM            

It was a few days ago I read your last explanation, about karma, after a 12 hour night shift, and I wanted to reply but I went to sleep and didn't get round to it. If I understand correctly, you are saying that karma is far more complex than an eye for an eye. I've always felt this too- whatever karmic law exists- is far more complex.

You are not usually impatient, but found me difficult? Gosh, I'm not that bad am I?

There is one more thing. I'm not sure whether you and I will differ in this, but I don't believe in free will in the same way that many people do. I resonated with everything said in the first part of this latest Zeitgeist film. I am so glad they have been talking about this stuff because I have wondered about this kind of thing since a very early age....and sensed the world was greatly in need of healing regarding that topic. So my viewpoints regarding free will are expressed in Zeitgeist. That was my only really issue with karma- that I don't believe we have free will until we are fully self aware.....and if we were all self aware we would probably start transforming this world into an ascended, Utopian version of what we have now.

I hope such questions do not make me seem irritating and childish, and that I am being too slow to grasp concepts etc.

posted January 31, 2011 07:31 AM            

Do you think though, there must be more to our purpose than simply to experience life and return to Source? If we are going back there, it is logical that we must be going back with something, otherwise every bit of suffering experienced in this world is completely and utterly in vain and just part of an "illusion", and I think such a thought is too cruel and ironic to be true....that if there is some incredible force and design behind all life, then it must have created all of this for a reason, it must have.

posted January 31, 2011 10:19 AM            

The pedestrians have every reason to doubt and ask, only then they will gather the courage to drive the journey of Ascension.
That is why we have some people who can read and post hundreds of thousands of pages but still fear to ACT on a spiritual law. They are not yet ready.

How many dare to give 10 bucks to the tramp when there are just 30 in the wallet? 5000 pages of Linda Goodman may be read but it is the action that determines evolution, and I think you are very much walking the talk, esle you would not be privy to "living" knowledge.

posted February 06, 2011 05:38 AM            

But it is good science to question everything.

Thinking about it, what you have detailed as the workings of karma, does not really conform to the general consensus idea of karma, ie, you do something bad, bad will come, you do something good, good will come.

If it is true what the Maori poet wrote about us being our own judge, our own god (as well as Mellen Thomas, the guy who wrote about his NDE)....then maybe we attract our own karma. Maybe its possible that the only reason we only suffer because we believe we should.

posted February 07, 2011 01:32 AM            

There are 3D "loop holes" but there is 4D accountability,and they are prepared for it. They know what they want, they have been around for millions of years.

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Oh one more thing....you said at the end of 2009 or beginning of 2010 that the relationship I am in would not have much laughter in it. But it does. How can this be?
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Once you are aware of the weakness, you can strengthen, and this is one of the advantages of astrology. By being aware of this weakness, you may have subconsciously taken the steps to improve the sense of humour and thus defeat the harsh aspect.

Perhaps I should have kept quiet and allowed that energy to play out, but what would I have got out of that other than an ego satisfaction that I am right?
So I took the time and energy to analyze the charts and help. When an empathetic astrologer even sees a harsh aspect, energetic steps start to thwart it. [The movie 'NEXT' *ing Nicholas Cage shows this change of future beautifully ].

But when there is ingratitude towards astrology for this, the astrologer is the one who is punished. For the Occult Laws have been broken by the astrologer in "taking away the lesson". I have been punished many times.