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LEXX
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posted June 16, 2011 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Please forgive yourself.
I have some more thoughts on this.
I will try to return today and share.{{{hugs}}}

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Ami Anne
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posted June 16, 2011 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am SO sorry SunChild Darling
I am here if you want to talk.
I feel tears coming up when I read this.
You lost your baby.
You know I understand that

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LEXX
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posted June 19, 2011 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My apologies for not reply in full yet.
I will return after I sleep.
Been up for almost 24 hours all stressed over my pending divorce and the extremely unpleasant atmosphere.

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~I remember, therefore I am immortal~LEXX
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SunChild
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posted June 20, 2011 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lexx ((( ))) thank you for everything and everything you continue to do, your posts meant a lot to me and have helped so much.

Ami ((( ))) You came to me with support and offer a listening ear and I thank you too. My own mother isn't there for me so it feels very motherly of both of you. I don't know if I could keep it all inside.

17 weeks

I'm ready to face it now, I used to avoid looking at babies at this week gestation, I even wanted time to pass very fast when I was at 17 weeks with all my children, getting to 16 weeks, then 17 and then feeling the baby move is a reminder of the aborted one, it was heart retching, the movements of the aborted baby were frantic, as if she was unders stress. Things got better when I got to 20 weeks with my other children and past that. Arriving at 17 weeks definitely triggers something.

There are so many stories like mine. Sad.

I had a D&C or was it D&E?. I was dilated with drugs and then under general they used a curette suction I think. I don't know which is method is worse, there are others. There is no abortion method widely practiced today which is not extremely cruel to the unborn child. I'm pretty sure they suck out the baby in peices, emptying the uterus of everything as I just saw on some websites. I never have had the courage to see it but now I am looking at what the procedure is and what is done and what the result is. Absolutely disgusting and horrifying. If the doctor at the time explained to me what they actually do I would have run for the hills. For some reason there is a viel covering it and no one talks about the details. I didn't know that my baby was even that big, I really didn't. I thought they knock you out (which they did), and the baby also is knocked out (probably not) and they remove him or her from your cervix since it's small and the baby just dies because it no longer getting oxygen. I thought at the time it was like a fingernail size!!! I freaked when I felt her moving just before the procedure, for the first time, I knew she was bigger than I thought. Not just a clump of cells like they make out. Imagine you wanted to scream 'no' while drowning in waves of general anethsetic. Yuck. It was like she was saying "hey I'm in here!". No one bloody told me and I didn't have the internet back then. I was so blind and ignorant. but I heard the baby is sucked out, placenta and all, in peices!! I didn't know this but reading other abortions around the same time the mother is induced labor and births the baby after a certain stage. To know my own baby was ripped to pieces is very hard to accept.

I just saw a pic of a 20 week abortion and the baby is in ten or so peices, I remember now that a friend told me that in highschool, when I was quite young and I thought it was not true just a rumor, and I never believed her, I wish I had now.

I watched abortion videos - warning this video is extremely graphic http://www.abortioninstruments.com/and http://www.abortioninstruments.com/abortion_videos.html http://www.abort67.co.uk/
I had to watch it for my own healing. I have to face it.
If women saw the truth before they went through the procedure I'm sure there will be many of those who don't go through with it so they wont regret it later.
I mean give them the option to watch a video such as this or see some photos of the real deal. I know I would have watched it and changed my mind.
I know some who would not watch it and go through with it because that is what they want.
But it could save heart ache in the future for many women who were ignorant at the time.

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posted June 20, 2011 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
speaking of ignorance before internet was popular, the women who regret their abortions have said things like that information was never given to them, so many I have read said that, and they were led to believe that their pregnancy was some kidney shaped developing tissue, hardly a baby, even in the second trimester. It seemed to lessen the guilt, now they see their baby had fingers and toes (not that it's right before they develop- it just intensifies the guilt.) They all said if they saw videos like the ones listed, they would have woken up.

I think it should be made aware of in school age children as a part of their sex-ed. Not just glossed over briefly.

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posted June 20, 2011 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel so much like this poor woman

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I have never written anything like this before. My hands are sweating at this very moment. I have been compelled time and again to address this issue and I'm ready to confess. In 1990, I committed murder. I killed my baby. I should be in prison serving a life sentence, but I'm not. Was it because only a handful of people knew and kept silent, or perhaps they never solved the case, or maybe I had a really good lawyer? Realistically, none of these reasons are correct. Unfortunately, the murder I committed was legal. I guess it was legal because no one ever saw the baby, never felt its soft skin, never smelled its sweet breath, never gave it a name. Actually, there wasn't any justification for such horror and there still isn't. This society needs to understand that there isn't any difference between "unborn" and "newborn". Murder is murder, any way you look at it.

It's so strange how i kept this bottled up for so long, each day i'm facing more and more of it, going through all sorts of emotions, today I am watching videos, and reading stories of regret. At night I speak to God about it. And sometimes I just cry for her body temple that I destroyed.

I keep reminding myself I didn't destroy an entire being, I didn't take away her Soul life. I didn't kill her Spirit self either, but I hurt and destroyed her body, her beautiful body, and I may have caused her great stress and pain from the instruments used. I am putting it all in perspective at the same time.
Remaining calm but 100% informed.
Going through waves of self forgiveness and trying not to to be stuck in it.
I would like to do something positive with what I know though, so it's not totally in vain.
I would like to raise awareness somehow.
This would help, these tiny babies don't have voices. It's up to us to speak up for them.

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rajji
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posted June 20, 2011 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sunchild im soo sorry for you...and I ADORE the beauty of your Soul....becoz I dont find many people who would acknowledge that abortion is anything but a sin...A deep pain which at times is so unnerving..of course it is not murder but it does have its own implications..
ABORTION is an unfathomably complex act.
According to me the goal of ending it is not just to manage crises — but to prevent crises from happening in the first place.

My question is this...Why do some feel the guilt by aborting just one child while others dont mind doing it umpteen number of times?
Unless it is taken hard on oneself and one strives to shed more light on this issue, it will be ignored as just a mere act of discardation of flesh which it obviously is not.

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LEXX
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posted June 20, 2011 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if this will help or not but that cute pic of a 17 week is not factual in my opinion.
Having lost 26+ up to 20 weeks....
The biggest were dark blood red purple blue sticky things with huge heads and tiny bodies not cute little babies.
That cute pic is not realistic at all.
And often natural losses do not come out in one piece under 20 weeks. Passing the dead foetus can take days as the pieces of corpses leave.
Nightmarish to say the least.
I feel your abortion the baby was numbed at least but my natural losses of 26+ probably suffered.
Sorry at moment the memories of my natural losses so damn many....sorry do not want to think about it right now.
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posted June 20, 2011 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeh I know it's not meant to be a real pic, just for size Lexx. It's not meant to show anything except for scale.
I know what they actually look like, I didn't want to be so graphic and post a dead baby on Lindaland.
Your losses are unimaginable Lexx.
I'm dealing with the horrible thing I did, but at the same time a loss is a loss and time doesn't heal anything at all.
I didn't know that about natural losses


Thanks Rajji

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posted October 10, 2011 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am so sorry Sun Child, it is really hard to heal from trauma. You are very brave to view the videos/pictures, and face the pain. I'm glad you are sharing your experience, as it may help others in similar situations.

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LEXX
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posted October 11, 2011 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SunChild
Sorry for your sorrow.
Thank you for understanding.
Life goes on yes,
but the pain of losses never go away completely.
And knowing it is unlikely I will ever give birth again to a live child, does not help my sorrow. I often dream of being pregnant and giving live birth again.

However sad you are about the past,
you do have 3 lovely children!
You are truly blessed!
I am so happy for you and your new son!
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posted October 11, 2011 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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