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iAmThat
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From: third rock from the Sun
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posted September 22, 2005 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Planet,
That is what I am reading currently.
It will come as a surprise to you when you realize that Mary is revered and spoken so highly of in the Quran. Well you will come to your own truth. Good luck.


Everyone:
Heres another poem from Kabir. He lived in the 16th century BTW. Here goes.

quote:

Oh Companion That Abode Is Unmatched (Unique),
Where My Complete Beloved Is.

In that Place There Is No Happiness or Unhappiness,
No Truth or Untruth
Neither Sin Nor Virtue.
There Is No Day or Night, No Moon or Sun,
There Is Radiance Without Light.

There Is No Knowledge or Meditation
No Repetition of Mantra or Austerities,
Neither Speech Coming From Vedas or Books.
Doing, Not-Doing, Holding, Leaving
All These Are All Lost Too In This Place.

No Home, No Homeless, Neither Outside or Inside,
Micro and Macrocosm Are Non-Existent.
Five Elemental Constituents and the Trinity Are Both Not There
Witnessing Un-struck Shabad Sound is Also Not There.

No Root or Flower, Neither Branch or Seed,
Without a Tree Fruits are Adorning,
Primordial Om Sound, Breath-Synchronized Soham,
This and That - All Are Absent, The Breath Too Unknown

Where the Beloved Is There is Utterly Nothing
Says Kabir I Have Come To Realize.
Whoever Sees My Indicative Sign
Will Accomplish the Goal of Liberation.


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ILove
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From: Winter Haven, FL
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posted September 22, 2005 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILove     Edit/Delete Message
O.K. so call me selfish, but if you could ask me one question to lead me to answers, what would you ask me? I feel as if life is a circle, and the conclusions are just layers within a circle? What if I am not smart enough to figure it out, will I be forever riding on the carousel? A little lost today and so many opinions....

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fayte.m
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posted September 22, 2005 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Heh heh Sue! Did I over distract you?

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lotusheartone
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posted September 22, 2005 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
1000 Years of our Eden, On Earth.

Ilove,
we are all smart enought, we are all divine
walking the same line
Destination
Peace On Earth.

Love and Light to ALL

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sue g
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posted September 22, 2005 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah you did fayte girl.,....I was ALL lover the place hahaha !!

xxx

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fayte.m
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posted September 22, 2005 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message

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TINK
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posted September 22, 2005 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
very nice Kabir, IAT. Thank you.

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iAmThat
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From: third rock from the Sun
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posted September 22, 2005 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks TINK...

I was not sure if anyone would like it.
But heres more.
http://www.boloji.com/kabir/mysticsongs/index.htm

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let ther b light
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From: bombay, india
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posted September 23, 2005 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for let ther b light     Edit/Delete Message
hey i am that
i really lik kabir. we learnt a few of his poems in school, hindi literature.....though at that time i did not really appreciate it since v were taught the poems in a very difficult dialect of hindi.......thanks for sharing

diya

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let ther b light
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posted September 23, 2005 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for let ther b light     Edit/Delete Message
hey i am that
i really lik kabir. we learnt a few of his poems in school, hindi literature.....though at that time i did not really appreciate it since v were taught the poems in a very difficult dialect of hindi.......thanks for sharing

diya

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let ther b light
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From: bombay, india
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posted September 23, 2005 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for let ther b light     Edit/Delete Message
hey
i found something on the site that i really liked......

Jab Mein Tha Tab Hari Nahin‚ Jab Hari Hai Mein Nahin
Sab Andhiyara Mit Gaya‚ Jab Deepak Dekhya Mahin

Translation
When "I" was then Hari was not, Now Hari "is" and "I" am not
All the darkness (illusions) mitigated, When I saw the light (illumination) within.

My Understanding
From the root word "Har" (everything) is derived the word "Hari" which is used as yet another name or expression for God – the most common being "Hari Om". In this doha, Kabir explains that till such time we are engrossed within the bounds of our (limited) ego – the mundane "I" – we are not able to experience or realize the all-pervasive attribute of God. Resultantly we are in a state of conflict, chaos and a state of ignorance aptly expressed as darkness or illusion in the doha. This darkness – the state of ignorance – diminishes, rather eliminates, when the all-pervasive effulgence of God (the light within) is perceived, realized or experienced. With this conviction we are able to transcend the bondage enforced by our ego.

the "my understanding" part is not mine, its on the site

i really like kabir

diya

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Planet_Soul
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posted September 23, 2005 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet_Soul     Edit/Delete Message

Thanks for sharing IaT and LtBl.

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