posted September 16, 2018 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by LEXX:

In the Book of Luke when Jesus is asked "where wilt thou that we prepare?" concerning the Kingdom of the New Age of Jesus's return, Jesus says to follow a man "bearing a pitcher of water" into the house he enters. In Astrology, a man bearing a pitcher of water symbolizes the coming of the Age of Aquarius and is known as "the water bearer". In Astrology, the Age of Aquarius comes directly after the Age of Pisces.

Ages are believed by some to affect mankind. For Aquarius (also called "the Water bearer"), it is reported we have already been feeling influences - titled Orb of influence (the last ten degrees backwards of the Age of Pisces) - in the accelerated individual, social, cultural, scientific and technological development and globalization through the 20th century. This view is consistent with the popular notion of the New Age movement that regards current times as the "dawning of the Aquarian Age".

On the other hand, the Aquarian Age is thought to bring with it an era of universal brotherhood rooted in reason where it will be possible to solve social problems in a manner equitable to all and with greater opportunity for intellectual and spiritual improvement, since Aquarius is an airy, scientific, and intellectual sign and its ruler planet, Uranus, is associated with intuition (knowledge above reason) and direct perceptions of the heart; and on the mundane level it rules electricity and technology. It is generally described by astrologers that in the Age of Aquarius there will be [b]a blending of religion and science to such a degree that a religious science and a scientific religion will be formed.

Eastern astrology associates the Age of Pisces with the yin; i.e., spirituality and intuition. Aquarius, on the other hand represents the yang, with its emphasis on rationality and high technology.

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posted October 01, 2018 02:08 AM            

Wonder how our civilization will be guided by higher beings and Fate or destiny.

posted October 01, 2018 02:14 AM            

Jesus asked of his followers to be a lamp and always keep it burning. It does not mean to be slave to our creator gods or the ONE god. Some of his turn inwards quotes are very parallel to those of Buddha. He may have come across it if he did journey to India.

posted October 01, 2018 02:15 PM            

There was even a push to culturally exchange practices -- western and eastern -- by some western monks. (e.g. Thomas Merton)

I briefly pursued a western monastic life back in the 1970s. The depth-level of teachings on Christianity had been reserved for those who were more serious about spiritual pursuits, hidden behind monastery walls.

In my teens and earlier 20s, I had absorbed some of Yogananda's Bhakti teachings {book, Autobiography of a Yogi}, and some of the Seth Materials {The Eternal Validity of The Soul}, before I entered as a postulant.

Once I was exposed to education lessons behind the walls, I remarked in myself how much they starve the people who come sit faithfully every week in their pews.

Christianity is replete with ritual and symbolisms that have simplicity and depth.

There has been a need, a Hunger in the soul, for more at this Time, and the people had not been adequately taught. Some are ready for the more-mature teachings, even if the beginners are present.

You can't be fed just by signing up for baptism (salvation), be given a membership, then be subjected to dull shallow homilies.

It dries up the spirit that wants to grow but does not receive required nurture. I think it hurts people? -- at least, it deprives them. I even wonder at the spirit quality of the seminaries (teaching colleges) that produce them, too? But then... It's up to EACH to develop their own selves, from what they are given? Certainly, more Inspired-Learning could light some of those better?

Anyways. They didn't think that mundane Sunday pew-people could understand and interpret sacred scriptures for themselves. For a long time (in the past), in older traditional roman catholicism, the pew-people were discouraged from reading their own bibles{sacred texts}. The people were told to rely on their learned priests and pastors to give them the pre-digested version.

As a child in the church in the 1950s/60s and beyond, we were definitely scared-away from exploring other religions-- as though God was ready to punish you with a bolt of lightning for "just curiously peeking" into the portals of a Jewish synagogue/temple? It was considered a punishable sin (for a child to be curious)?

I can see them not wanting 'beginners' to become confused before they'd have a good solid foundational understanding--- THEN explore??? LOL

Part of that, I think, is that 'the church' fathers neglected the potency of the agent called The Holy Spirit of God. (The "third" in the father-son trinity.)

It is said that the scriptures were God-Breathed. If that is true, then the Logos (energy impregnating words, The Breath), when evoked, discerned, and respected, IS the divinity present inside the human Heart. The Spirit is an invisible-infused Teacher and Guide that explains and opens-out scriptures {delineates} to earnest seekers who read it FOR that intent and purpose.

Spirit digests and gives you the meanings of words you read and hear. And Spirit can use all kinds of words, symbols, sense-evocations, inspirations, in order to speak.

Nature outside... and 'the still small Voice' within.

(music) Behold God the Lord Passes By! (Felix Mendelssohn, from oratorio Elijah, Maine AllState Choir 2012) [4:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSLawM8qJVI

These who are part of the patriarchy had dumbed or numbed out the nurturing role of Spirit in people's lives? They were interested in controlling what their pew-people think? -- Maybe an effort not to overwhelm them??.. but, also ignorant and disregarding that The Spirit of God INSIDE of them, corroborates and opens The Word {Logos} of ALL God-Breathed Texts from around the world.

I think there's been a slow and subtle Awakening happening; that God's Spirit that lights the inner-lamp can even be present-enough to use the symbol, the material shape of a lamp, with its curves and designs, to Speak to the inside. It's all Light, and Form, for those blessed enough with a Call to Seek--

When the dark increases, the Light (and Dawn) is more Penetrative and Powerful than could ever be imagined!! The Light of Knowledge in the inward parts.

I think it's absolutely fascinating to think about Jesus spending time (as an Initiate) in India. My imagination thinks of how Delicious it probably was, when he was able to spiritually expound the ancient texts to which he was exposed?

That "parallel", that "tapping" into information?

It's from the ONE God Source, available to ALL.

For example, we have The Sun, our source of light and heat (and probably OTHER yet-unknown nutrients) in our solar system. Doesn't matter from what-place upon earth you view it, or even from the other planets you'd visit? It's all from the same ONE Light we view. Light is not fractured.
{Although?? haha, not going deeper into symbolism of rainbows right now. LOL}

A single candle-flame is 'Whole Fire'. We each look up at the SAME SUN. SAME SOURCE. Same Eternal Source (called God).

We owe our biological existence to the Sun. The Earth and everything biologically living on her would cease to be alive (in present day material form).

There is only ONE Source.... out of which Many souls exist. The wick on the lamps of souls ignite. We are now becoming more spiritually alive, and Awakening and Brightening and Focusing and Clarifying.

We who Seek are Wick-Lighters of other lamps in the Collective? A contagious fire.

We each are a part, AND The Whole, of it together.

Spiritual Holy Holograms of Source Light..
clothed in the miracle of material biological flesh bodies. .. blows me away!

Jesus was QUITE metaphysical.
Some saw him only as a man.
Got killed for being a trouble-stirring man.
Made himself equal with God.
And, said that WE are Made 'Like Him' too. Flames. Lights.

Known as the Father {progenitor} of Lights.

WE-are |{I-Am}| God-Breathed.

(music) The Word Was God (Rosephanye Powell, St Olaf Choir, Christmas in Norway, lyrics) [3:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLqrIOI86hg

- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Merton,_Thomas
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Yogananda,_Paramahansa

(music) Even when he is silent (Kim André Arnesen) [5:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtq9TPnb6kc

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_André_Arnesen

posted October 01, 2018 03:00 PM            

Osho (Rajneesh) used to say, any new intiate has all kinds of questions. The master may not have answers to all of them and may even be wrong when it concerns the outside world. Some master do study to catch up with the modern world. However they are never wrong of world concerning the inside. The mysteries has been their experience and they have lived it.

In the end though, all questions will dissolve. You accept things as they are meant to be. Then the drop of water falls in to the ocean and becomes one. I tell you , the ocean the has fallen in to the drop for people like Jesus. Jesus said "If you know my father , you have known me". Jesus said "The father and I are one". Then they threw stones at Jesus for blasphemy.

posted October 01, 2018 03:04 PM            

Our creators (one who shaped our bodies on earth) was an excellent cosmologist, astrologer, etc. They came from the constellation of Taurus. Orion or perhaps Sirius in particular .
But guess what, he immortally or for a very long time , may not have achieved enlightenment. As I said ,the outside world is huge but limited knowledge. we should turn that energy of seeking in the other direction i.e inside. There is no other way apparently. "The kingdom of God is within you" -- Gospel of Matthews.

Even those beings should be thanked for giving us bodies. A body is needed for enlightenment. Just as Einstein said "space and time" are not two separate things but one and the same thing. So is body and mind. an enlightened mind (No mind) needs a body to begin with. Then a death of mind is needed before the resurrection Jesus talked about. A few can remain in their body a while longer before giving that up. It is subject to Nature and inhabitants own will. What great benediction to those who are present near such masters who stay on this shore and guide us.