posted July 21, 2012 09:03 PM            

May the comming new age bring forth the love and mercy the Holy Ones have taught us is the birthright of our Spiritual Beings.

juni

Fundalmentalism definition:

Fundamentalism is the demand for a strict adherence to specific theological doctrines usually understood as a reaction against Modernist theology, combined with a vigorous attack on outside threats to their religious culture. . The term has a religious connotation indicating unwavering attachment to a set of irreducible beliefs.

Christian fundamentalism, also known as Fundamentalist Christianity, or Fundamentalism, refers to a movement within the Christianity upholding a literal reading of the Bible or official teachings of the Church. Armageddon, , the rapture, heaven and absolute hell being among the teachings.
A Biblical literalist is someone who literally interprets the words of the Bible. A literal Biblical interpretation is associated with the fundamentalist and evangelical hermeneutical approach to Scripture, and is used almost exclusively by conservative Christians such as Baptist, Conservative Mennonites and other similar groups.

Catholic Fundamentalists,

however, also believe in a literal interpretation of Vatican declarations, particularly those pronounced by the Pope. According to Catholic fundamentalists, individuals who do not agree with the magisterium are condemned by God

Islam
According to academic John Esposito, one of the most defining features of Islamic fundamentalism is belief in the "reopening" of the gates of jihad. Graham Fuller describes Islamic fundamentalism not as distinct from Islamism but as a subset, "the most conservative element among Islamists." Its "strictest form" includes "Wahhabism, sometimes also referred to as salafiyya. ... For fundamentalists the law is the most essential component of Islam, leading to an overwhelming emphasis upon jurisprudence, usually narrowly conceived." Another American observer, Robert Pelletreau, Jr., assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern affairs, believes it the other way around, Islamism being the subset of Muslims "with political goals ... within" the "broader fundamentalist revival". Still another, Martin Kramer, sees little difference between the two terms: "To all intents and purposes, Islamic fundamentalism and Islamism have become synonyms in contemporary American usage."

(wiki snippets ^)

Jewish

Like fundamentalism everywhere, the Jewish variety seeks to restore an ideal, imagined past. If it ever managed to do so, the Israel celebrated by the American "friends of Israel" as a "bastion of democracy in the Middle East" would, most assuredly, be no more. For, in its full and perfect form, the Jewish Kingdom that arose in its place would elevate a stern and wrathful God's sovereignty over any new-fangled, heathen concepts such as the people's will, civil liberties or human rights. It would be governed by the Halacha, or Jewish religious law, of which the rabbis would be the sole interpreters, and whose observance clerical commissars, installed in every public and private institution, would rigorously enforce, with the help of citizens legally obligated to report any offense to the authorities. A monarch, chosen by the rabbis, would rule and the Knesset would be replaced by a Sanhedrin, or supreme judicial, ecclesiastic and administrative council. Men and women would be segregated in public, and "modesty" in female dress and conduct would be enforced by law. Adultery would be a capital offense, and anyone who drove on the Sabbath, or desecrated it in other ways, would be liable to death by stoning. As for non-Jews, the Halacha would be an edifice of systematic discrimination against them, in which every possible crime or sin committed by a Gentile against a Jew, from murder or adultery to robbery or fraud, would be far more heavily punished than the same crime or sin committed by a Jew against a Gentile--if, indeed, the latter were considered to be a felony at all, which it often would not be.
http://wais.stanford.edu/Religion/religion_jewishfundamentalism.htm

posted July 21, 2012 11:10 PM            

Thank you for posting it. I had no idea so many religions had fundamentalist subsects. What an eye opener

posted July 21, 2012 11:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Juniper:
It is a wound to the Divinity in each Being. It steals the breath of the spirit by limiting it`s understanding of the Christ or any Holy Being. It goes by the "book" and leaves no room for Love, Mercy or Benevolence. It seperates people in a us vs them by seeing evil where none exists... except in their specific religions perceived understanding of Holy Texts..

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I suspect that it also affects the brain in ways that literally prevent parts of the human brain from becoming more self aware and therefore growing.

There's more info and links to studies on iQ's thread on Proof of Reincarnation--
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/004497.html

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May the comming new age bring forth the love and mercy the Holy Ones have taught us is the birthright of our Spiritual Beings.

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posted July 22, 2012 05:23 AM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
It is a wound to the Divinity in each Being. It steals the breath of the spirit by limiting it`s understanding of the Christ or any Holy Being. It goes by the "book" and leaves no room for Love, Mercy or Benevolence.

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^THIS.

I feel that the fundamentalists are a big part of why people are afraid of Christianity and why stereotypes of Christians exist. Honestly, I can't blame people who think Christians are nuts because a lot of the fundies are very highly vocal and visible, as well as very extreme.

I also think that fundies do, as you say, only look to the letter of the law, and not the spirit of the law, especially the biblical literalists. I feel that a lot of the extremists just read the Bible without having the proper context, background, history, differences in translations, or understanding. They just pick up the words. It is very, very, very important to have background information. Any understanding or interpretation without it is flawed at best.

I don't feel like they acknowledge or accept that God still speaks to people (not literally as in shows up like the burning bush, but I mean more things like changing attitudes, opening up people's hearts, etc.), and like everything is said and done and we must cling to the past. The other thing, too, that they fail to acknowledge is that Jesus doesn't fit their values. Example: women. Jesus was kind to women. Jesus didn't look down on them, strip them of their rights, or treat them in a sexist or demeaning manner. I think that what fundies and other negative types of Christians do is that they project their own negativity, hate, etc. onto God. They worship it in their hearts, so they worship it outwardly in the form of "God". And, too, I think that it's fairly normal for Christians to believe that "God is on their side" and behind their cause.

posted July 22, 2012 06:27 AM            

1. Best sellers (both fiction and nonfiction) in the US include books written by extreme fundies that have even backed Christian theocratic militias (the Left Behind series, granted it was a minor point though one author has a lot to do with them personally and I believe his involvement with Bush is why those militias refrained from acting over the USAPATRIOT Act) and also people who only casually bring up Christianity and yet do so with little comment (other than support) from their readers, such as best sellers by Ann Coulter (you know, "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity"). When this is not only acceptable but makes a book a BEST SELLER then I don't see them as "being the exception" the same as say Flat Earthers.

2. Politicians cater to them because there is serious money and serious votes backing them. (Contrast with running as a Christian in say Iran or Jewish in Nazi Germany where such a person would learn what REAL persecution is.) Even Obama invited Rick Warren to give the invocation at his inauguration. In case you didn't know Warren is one of the Christian fundies that has helped pass "kill the gays" bills in Africa which clearly shows what he (and many other fundies who contribute financially to this if not actively help in addition to trying to keep gays off of any hate crime or antibullying legislation even though they otherwise support it) hopes for the future of the USA.

3. Westboro Baptists operated with impunity for about a decade IIRC, including in crashing the funeral of Matthew Shepherd, and the USA and Christendom did not care. It was only after they started thanking God for 9/11 and dead soldiers that US Christians rose up and said, "They're not with us." This PROVES that if someone is offensive enough they'll say something, but otherwise won't bother.

4. They keep getting the signatures for grassroots ballots and then getting their measures passed (granted, the courts typically overrule such measures as unconstitutional, a major reason why fundies are trying hard to get Thomas Jefferson removed from school history books as it was Jefferson that drove home the point of why separation of church & state were imperative if the US was to remain free of tyranny, and it's typically Jefferson that the courts think of when they overturn these religious ballots that pass the majority vote). In case the significance is not clear then this means that the majority are backing religious fundies.

5. Expanding on the above point Prop 8 passed because of Christianity. Nearly every single commercial promoting it mentioned God, Jesus, and/or the Bible at least once, as did people saying why they voted for it. Where I lived there was a traffic jam caused by Protestants going to a prayer meeting to "pray for Prop 8 to pass" and a Catholic church a couple blocks from me at the time did the same with cars parked for blocks around (they were rude, too, sometimes blocking driveways so residents couldn't get in or out and a Pentecostal neighbor of mine lost 2 cats that night due to being run over by Catholics come to pray for Prop 8), which normally only happened at Easter (I dare say it was even bigger than Easter though I didn't do an actual count). IIRC all but one Christian organization that took a stand in California was for it (the one exception is well known for its liberal causes and very small) where in contrast almost no nonreligious groups supported it (Jewish organizations were about 50/50 and I don't recall seeing any Islamic groups for or against which probably means they didn't get counted on the list). And though I know someone who voted against it she said she felt as if "God were horribly disappointed" in her for doing so. All in all, I "thank" Christianity for Prop 8 passing. Of course it only barely passed in California, but most other states passed such amendments by a much greater majority, and from what I understand Christianity is the reason for it in those states as well. (Btw, fun fact, many fundie Christian stations that are some of the biggest profit makers in the USA and thus showing their popularity as well as Chick publications are based in California.)

posted July 22, 2012 07:34 AM            

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I also think that fundies do, as you say, only look to the letter of the law, and not the spirit of the law, especially the biblical literalists. I feel that a lot of the extremists just read the Bible without having the proper context, background, history, differences in translations, or understanding. They just pick up the words. It is very, very, very important to have background information. Any understanding or interpretation without it is flawed at best.

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Etymology is the absolute backbone of comprehending any Holy Text.

Without the historical, etymological and cultural comprehension, it becomes whatever one judges to be "truth".
They then rely on another to give meaning and depth to their beliefs. So many times you hear a fundalmentalist say "just listen to so and so and you will see the light" (read: law/truth).

This is not a wrong approach as there is no right or wrong in beliefs per se, but it surely can be hurtful to self and others when being condemmed or judged as they make their Way along their Spiritual journey.

I am not throwing out the Law. Without Law there would be chaos. Rather I am balancing it with Love; without Love, there would be no mercy
It`s about balance and a wise old saying sums it up nicely:

posted July 22, 2012 03:34 PM            

But what do you think is the mental/psychological reason fundies are spreading so much in the US? It seems like their propaganda will help them almost take over the country, one of these days. *shudders*

Whenever I speak to a fundie, one of the things I notice is that they themselves are unable to notice their own inability to reason. So what causes this? I mean are they people who've just shut down their reasoning skills and are just waiting to be "led" by someone who will "feed" them stuff?

And is it just plain mental laziness about not wanting to think that allows them to be "fed" and therefore "led"?

posted July 22, 2012 05:42 PM            

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Regardes and PixieJane, I agree with you guys!

But what do you think is the mental/psychological reason fundies are spreading so much in the US? It seems like their propaganda will help them almost take over the country, one of these days. *shudders*

Whenever I speak to a fundie, one of the things I notice is that they themselves are unable to notice their own inability to reason. So what causes this? I mean are they people who've just shut down their reasoning skills and are just waiting to be "led" by someone who will "feed" them stuff?

And is it just plain mental laziness about not wanting to think that allows them to be "fed" and therefore "led"?

I'd be curious to know what you guys think.

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I think that they want power and control. The men, I think that they want to push back women. I think that fundie men view women as a threat, with fear.

I feel that a lot of them are either brainwashed or otherwise so deeply indoctrinated into these things that they don't question them. Ambiguity is unsettling and uncomfortable. Having to live with things in tension can be uncomfortable. It goes with the wanting power and control thing, to me.

I think, too, that some people who join the fundies are very vulnerable. They're looking for a place to belong, like anyone else is. They're looking for certainty in an uncertain world. They're looking for power when they feel threatened by change and instability.

posted July 23, 2012 12:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
Whenever I speak to a fundie, one of the things I notice is that they themselves are unable to notice their own inability to reason. So what causes this? I mean are they people who've just shut down their reasoning skills and are just waiting to be "led" by someone who will "feed" them stuff?

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In addition to what RP said there have been repeated brain scans and other studies that show some people (especially fundies) tend to use brains not associated with reason when thinking of religion & politics. WHY this is isn't yet certain (lots of ideas, though) but my guess is that it's tied to tribal circuits in the brain, that is if their beliefs are questioned they literally feel threatened (or at least alienated and alone) and so seek to mandate conformity in order to feel safe and feel threatened by anyone who doesn't knuckle under (and/or convenient scapegoats provided by the political & religious groups).

You might find this interesting:

political bias affects the brain

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Researchers asked staunch party members from both sides to evaluate information that threatened their preferred candidate prior to the 2004 Presidential election. The subjects' brains were monitored while they pondered.

The results were announced today.

"We did not see any increased activation of the parts of the brain normally engaged during reasoning," said Drew Westen, director of clinical psychology at Emory University. "What we saw instead was a network of emotion circuits lighting up, including circuits hypothesized to be involved in regulating emotion, and circuits known to be involved in resolving conflicts."

The test subjects on both sides of the political aisle reached totally biased conclusions by ignoring information that could not rationally be discounted, Westen and his colleagues say.

Then, with their minds made up, brain activity ceased in the areas that deal with negative emotions such as disgust. But activity spiked in the circuits involved in reward, a response similar to what addicts experience when they get a fix, Westen explained.

The study points to a total lack of reason in political decision-making.

"None of the circuits involved in conscious reasoning were particularly engaged," Westen said. "Essentially, it appears as if partisans twirl the cognitive kaleidoscope until they get the conclusions they want, and then they get massively reinforced for it, with the elimination of negative emotional states and activation of positive ones."

Notably absent were any increases in activation of the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain most associated with reasoning.

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Religion seems to work the same. It's quite amazing to me how like the Catholics can claim to love children and want to protect them as well as rend their garments over gays, comparing gays to the KKK (when actually the KKK would side with Catholics against gays, especially since they lightened up against Catholics), but then mock childhood sexual abuse victims of priests and have a fit if anyone tries calling them on it (and the church protecting them so that they molest even more children) as that contradicts their belief that their religion makes them morally superior and that they think they genuinely care about children (and they do, when it's convenient).

Also see cognitive dissonance. In religion this can mean preaching love and peace while promoting wars and "kill the gays" bills or believing that if one wins a fight then God is on their side and proves their righteousness but if they lose then that shows God is testing their faith and their righteousness is still proven as is the perfidy of their opponents in either case. This should not to be confused with hypocrisy as pointing it out tends to create the above process of the brain shutting down the reasoning part and then reward itself for rationalizing the discrepancy away no matter how absurd the explanation is, and in my experience they often dodge the subject altogether but sincerely believe they've explained themselves rationally, because it makes sense to them as they're NOT using reason but sense they believe it they believe others must believe it, too (or they assume the other person is stupid or an evil deceiver). Another interesting bit is how they sometimes literally cannot think both ways at the same time any more than a dvd player can play 2 movies at the same time and they become confused when someone points out their contradictory messages as they can't keep both beliefs in consciousness at the same time yet sincerely believe both (if at separate times) even if they completely fail to reconcile them to anyone other than themselves and fellow believers. An actual hypocrite would be embarrassed to use the same rationalizations because they can see how absurd such explanations and evasions are (at the very least they're gonna use lies that are most likely to work). In short, their brain is actually being a little schizo.

I believe it was in In Pursuit of Satan that detailed cops watching a pagan gathering (more to protect them from offended Christians than to give them a hard time, though they no doubt kept a peery eye out for pot, public nudity, and the like as well) where one cop was a Pentecostal. He alone (as did fundies on the scene protesting it) reported a radically different scene from what every other police officer shared (and as a cop he would know better than to report something that the evidence did not support, especially when every other cop is saying nothing like that happened). To put it bluntly, those so driven by religious fundamentalism were so affected that they literally had a psychotic break from reality (though I suppose they might say that only they were free of demonic mind control...) It's an interesting if scary book (as is The Satanic Panic).

posted July 23, 2012 07:38 AM            

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_for_national_policy

posted July 24, 2012 06:41 AM            

Fundamentalist Islam is the worst plague on Earth against the Human Spirit.

It deliberately prevents the development of any feeling related to Love, and drills in a 24 hour System of Fear. Fear of breaking a hearsay scriptural law interpreted by an old orthodox scholar in the medieval age. And this fear is compounded by an invasion even into the most intimate thought process. Fundamentalist Wahabbi/Salafiya/Jihadi Islam has a secret goal: To prevent the full evolution of the Human Brain.

The emotion of fear releases hormones that steadily destroy health. The 24 hour religious control system to pray in a certain way before every act or even every thought ensures that there is no motivation nor energy left for creative ventures.

God Created many techniques of triggering Human Evolution: Color, Sound and positive feelings that can release neuropeptide molecules which inspire Kundalini Flow. This is why painting, music and artistic expressions are banned in orthodox Islam. Even Chess is prohibited. Yes, being a mind controlled slave who will be ready to blow himself up for a hateful religious cause out of fear towards a false idea of god, that is permitted and encouraged.

The evidence that orthodox Islam is an utter failure is seen when analyzing the performance of Saudi Arabia as a Nation.

Zero Nobel Prizes
Zero High Tech Patents
Zero Olympic Gold Medals
Zero Oscar Award nominations
Zero World Class Musicians

The pathetic Saudi scholars even banned the greatest movie ever made on an Islamic Theme: "The Message", where Anthony Quinn essayed the greatest role ever of an Arab historical figure on the big screen. Maybe the scholars hated the fact that youngsters would become fans of Quinn and watch "Zorba the Greek" someday. And become happily Human like Zorba

One Sufi Muslim from India, A.R Rahman managed two oscars in one year. More than what the Saudi Arabian millions will ever accomplish, as their brains stay depressed and unevolved. A.R. Rahman also follows the same holy book and many common rituals as Saudis but because of Sufism, there is love and poetry in his heart, he is able to connect to his Soul and produce Soulful Music. The Sufi prays because he loves God. The Salafi prays because of fear, resentfully, because he has to pray by law.

Islam thrives today only because of Sufism, the Wahabbi-Salafi sect would otherwise have inflicted brutal wars on themselves and invited the scourge of all other nations through their anti-Human thoughts, paving the way for the extinction of a powerful Faith.

posted July 24, 2012 07:42 AM            

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The worst of Human Beings are these Islamic fundamentalists who state that every non-Muslim is going to hell.

Fundamentalist Islam is the worst plague on Earth against the Human Spirit.

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posted July 24, 2012 08:20 AM            

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Islam thrives today only because of Sufism, the Wahabbi-Salafi sect would otherwise have inflicted brutal wars on themselves and invited the scourge of all other nations through their anti-Human thoughts, paving the way for the extinction of a powerful Faith.

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posted July 24, 2012 09:33 AM            

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The worst of Human Beings are these Islamic fundamentalists who state that every non-Muslim is going to hell.

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A. They are just talking. It's only words.
B. Other religions preach hell, too.
C. I think the people who go out and KILL Muslims for no good reason are MUCH WORSE than the Fundamentalists who preach about hell.
D. I think people who are fine with other people going out and murdering Muslims wholesale are suffering from a FAR worse, more dangerous kind of delusion than non-violent Fundamentalist Muslims.

posted July 24, 2012 01:08 PM            

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The evidence that orthodox Islam is an utter failure is seen when analyzing the performance of Saudi Arabia as a Nation

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IQ You are my role model in telling the truth with love.

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posted July 24, 2012 01:42 PM            

some of the leaders of these religiously validated wars really believed that they were doing god's work. slaughter and pillage are still slaughter and pillage.

sadly, today, the muslim fundies are the most warlike. before the inquisition in spain, the moors (muslims) reigned with tolerance for all religions and the LAW was the last word. when the christians ran them out, they promised to do the same! and did, for a few months, before deciding all should be catholic, or burned/tortured to death...

posted July 24, 2012 04:20 PM            

Sad but true.

posted July 24, 2012 09:21 PM            

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The worst of Human Beings are these Islamic fundamentalists who state that every non-Muslim is going to hell.

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I dunno iQ, I've had Born Again Christians (both men and women) tell me that I will be going to hell because I have not become a Born Again Christian. That no other religion, not even the rest of Christianity, can "save" people from hell and doomsday unless they convert to Born Again Christianity. And each person presented himself/herself as somehow being especially equipped to "lead" me to God. They were completely blind to the fact that there are many different "roads" to God and that, as souls, we all have an internal GPS system that will eventually lead each and every one to God. Also there was no acceptance of the fact that unless they themselves have found God (which will be evidenced not only by a very deep internal spiritual awakening, but also the manner in which they conduct themselves towards others), it is more like the blind leading the blind. Also, that if people need to be led, God Himself will incarnate at the right time, or send His Angels in the form of humans, such as Gandhi, Mother Theresa, Saint Francis of Assisi (just to name a few) to help remove the blinders from people's eyes.

Ancient scriptures say that out of 100,000, maybe one person has the spiritual awakening enough to be able to pull himself out of what you describe as the matrix or the "maya" or the "veil" which is the trap of this game we know as our 3D life.

Anyway, to get back to what I was saying about being admonished repeatedly by Born Again Christians, I heard this repeatedly in College, Graduate School, and after. And while initially I would get in conversations with them out of curiosity, to see what made them think the way they (these fundies) think, I'm now convinced that there IS no thinking or reasoning involved ... just some sort of programming like the kind Regardes and PixieJane have talked about in their posts above. Consequently, I now avoid such fundies like the plague 'cause I don't feel the need to waste my time on listening to rubbish like, "unless you're a *Born Again Christian* you will go to hell."

posted July 24, 2012 10:06 PM            

Thank you for answering my question so completely.

"I think that they want power and control. The men, I think that they want to push back women. I think that fundie men view women as a threat, with fear."

I find this to be so true. It is among the fundies that one finds men with the most outdated ideas of what a woman "should be." And every one of these ideas seems to find a convenient basis or interpretation in the Bible. What is conveniently ignored of course, is the fact that Jesus himself respected women and made Mary one of his confidantes.

What is also interesting is that Christianity is somehow very closely tied in with the notion that the feminine principle is weak and that the masculine principle is strong. This is not something that Jesus taught. It is an idea that has developed over time beginning with the "pushing back" of Mary, Mother of Jesus, as not playing a significant role. The Vatican of course leads the way in this, as though men are somehow more saintly and pure than women.

And yes, the basis for all this is the kind of fear that fundie men have toward women. So what is feared must be controlled lest it get out of hand.

The eastern religions have no such thinking and the feminine principle is considered as strong as the masculine energy of God. Consequently, I notice that women from countries of eastern religions are more respected by their men folk.

Sadly, the disrespect that American men show toward American women has its basis in the closed minded way of thinking being discussed in this thread. Heck, I've seen European men respect their women more than American men.

And ultimately, how does this affect us as a culture in the US? Women still don't have equal rights, are still getting paid only two thirds of what men make, maternity leave is 6 weeks compared to the almost 3 months that European women can get, women cannot make their own choices about their own bodies for crying out loud. On the other hand no such restrictions are imposed on men as it is just accepted that all problems related to teenage pregnancies, STDs, contraception, the need for abortion especially in case of rape or mentally unsound mothers, will all be solved by placing restrictions on a woman's choices of what she can or cannot do with her own body, instead of directly addressing the problems as a society should.

In contrast, a simple thing like the male contraceptive pill cannot be developed, because a man's uncontested attitude is ... "don't you dare mess with my package."

posted July 24, 2012 10:33 PM            

Thank you so much for the information you posted in response to my question. The links and books are all very helpful in understanding the workings of a fundie brain. I'd suspected as much but your post shed a new light on the matter since I've never really delved into it.

"brain scans and other studies that show some people (especially fundies) tend to use brains not associated with reason when thinking of religion & politics."

I had surmised as much intuitively just from talking to fundies. I'm glad that there's supportive evidence from brain scans. What's really interesting is that both religion as well as politics invoke a similar response, ie., a regression of brain function , since reasoning is the skill and higher function of the brain that chiefly differentiates humans from the rest of the animal kingdom. Also why humans, in comparison to other animals, have prominent foreheads. The forehead houses the frontal lobe--the seat of intelligence and abstract reasoning in humans. A regression in this function takes us backward in many ways, toward the rest of the animal kingdom (no disrespect to animals, but I prefer to watch their wildness on the Nature channel).

Your mention of cognitive dissonance is so very interesting. So it's not even hypocrisy as we understand it, but more a case of the fundies believing what they want to believe, Perioid. Irrespective of whether or not their belief has any basis in reality.

"In short, their brain is actually being a little schizo."

Yes I can see this happening.

Thanks for the link to Prometheus Rising. This whole discussion has been very informative and enlightening.

posted July 24, 2012 10:40 PM            

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posted July 24, 2012 10:56 PM            

I'm afraid that what you said about Fundamentalist Islam is also happening in America, except in Fundamentalist Christianity, which is headed pretty much in the same direction, as Katatonic has pointed out.

And none of it bodes well for the evolution of the human soul in terms of breaking through the matrix to access the Real God as you said in your "Proof of Reincarnation thread." Because the principle emotion generated in such thinking is fear instead of love. And for many, their mind seems to be very effectively controlled by fear.