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Ami Anne
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posted November 20, 2012 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 21, 2012 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hopefully this will ease your worries, ami..i realize these are available, but they are not the bugbear some fear...as in the "mandatory chip" that is supposedly in the healthcare bill.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/microchip.asp

unfortunately a lot of people have a hard time reading things like the healthcare bill..or comprehending anyway.

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posted November 22, 2012 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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They start small as in this ad. Then, in time, they will be mandatory.

That is how the people in authority do things--- the frog in the warm water.

Now, the people are not subservient enough to have the government put in mandatory chips but when all guns are taken away and Obama has destroyed our economy, the time will come.

I expect to be Raptured by then, so will try to remember to come and say Good bye to you before I leave

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posted November 22, 2012 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
have you not noticed yet that even the conspiracy theorists are running conspiracy theories about each other? rapture/capture, love, you have been led to believe that the pie is in the sky...but it is right here at home.

a couple of years ago it was the flu shot they were going to force us to take...paranoia is a diversion and an illusion...

the main thing is to jettison that victim consciousness, you know, salvation comes from outside and everyone is out to get you...but you have been fully conditioned already, to believe that you are small stuff.

the kingdom is within, REMEMBER. because if evil succeeds it simultaneously destroys itself.

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posted November 23, 2012 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
if evil succeeds it simultaneously destroys itself.

We must have very different definitions of evil then, since I see evil succeeding everywhere. Not only does evil succeed a lot, but it often tricks those of good heart into doing its bidding.

I define evil as the thought of others being less worthy, less real, and perhaps even akin to livestock. That is, they don't care if others get hurt as they get what they want (with a heart that ranges from "better you than me" at best to, at worst, a heart that sings with joy at the misfortune of others as it's the ultimate power trip not all that dissimilar to that of a serial killer or rapist and/or "justice" against those harmed for having been in the way in the first place).

ETA: Not that I believe Bible prophecy, especially not in terms of things like the rapture, mark of the beast, etc. At least not as anything other than self-fulfilling prophecy (there have been a few who were so sure the government was a satanic force about to wipe them out that they acted on the belief and made it happen, but it wasn't the fulfillment of prophecy but rather a natural consequence of paranoia).

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posted November 23, 2012 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
have you not noticed yet that even the conspiracy theorists are running conspiracy theories about each other? rapture/capture, love, you have been led to believe that the pie is in the sky...but it is right here at home.

a couple of years ago it was the flu shot they were going to force us to take...paranoia is a diversion and an illusion...

the main thing is to jettison that victim consciousness, you know, salvation comes from outside and everyone is out to get you...but you have been fully conditioned already, to believe that you are small stuff.

the kingdom is within, REMEMBER. because if evil succeeds it simultaneously destroys itself.


I tried. I tried. I tried. Now, on to more lost souls

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posted November 23, 2012 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even if people don't believe Bible Prophecy, the chip is bad. I would think that no normal person would want a chip with all their info implanted in them, but who knows

Anyway, the more I think about it, the Rapture is close, as the believer in Jesus now are not going to be faced with the CHOICE of the chip.

The believers in Jesus during the Tribulation will.

I think the Rapture will happen in 2 years, tops.

You can laugh. They laughed when Noah built the ark, which is the picture of the Rapture.

They were not laughing after it started raining

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posted November 23, 2012 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not laughing, ami, and not scorning your beliefs either. they are what they are. however i see monotheistic religions as indoctrinating their followers into believing that god is outside them and unknowable...which does not tie in with my own beliefs or experiences. and jesus was the one who said the kingdom lies within.

PJ yes evil often appears to win, however if you see life as more than what lies between the "bookends" of birth and corporal death, and if you actually have known anyone who believed evil was the way to live, you might see that "success" is nothing of the sort...while there may be innocent victims along the way i suspect that as long as we breed as though we were rabbits that there will have to be casualties in this world. how else would we sustain life?

i realize this sounds harsh but please realize that i feel as much for fellow human suffering as you do, however when i step back to inspect the larger picture, it is obvious that people who do NOT check the larger picture will be caught in the details of the smaller ones.

nor am i saying the chip is good. they will not get one in me! what i am saying is there is no ONE true religion, that ALL the monotheists believe theirs is the ONLY way, and they ALL postpone "bliss" till after death, which was not what i heard when i listened to jesus' words.

but just because they are selling medical record chips now, doesn't necessarily lead to TAKING ALL OUR GUNS AND FORCING CHIPS ON EVERYONE. that is extrapolation of the paranoid kind.

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posted November 23, 2012 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is not paranoia, Kat
Watch the news and you will see all this happen, slowly.

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posted November 23, 2012 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
PJ yes evil often appears to win, however if you see life as more than what lies between the "bookends" of birth and corporal death, and if you actually have known anyone who believed evil was the way to live, you might see that "success" is nothing of the sort...while there may be innocent victims along the way i suspect that as long as we breed as though we were rabbits that there will have to be casualties in this world. how else would we sustain life?

i realize this sounds harsh but please realize that i feel as much for fellow human suffering as you do, however when i step back to inspect the larger picture, it is obvious that people who do NOT check the larger picture will be caught in the details of the smaller ones


Just out of curiosity, how does this contrast from Christians who say that evil destroys (or at least damns) itself in the afterlife and that one day God will remake the Earth and there will be no evil thing or mark left?

Hmm...just thought of a bonus question

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posted November 24, 2012 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have asked the same (first) question myself. so much of the current "ascension consciousness" just sounds like the rapture with a different name/frame. it wasn't what i meant though..there is so much more to your/my life than just your/my life. every one/thing touches all the rest ultimately in the simplest, least metaphysical way.

evil and good are MOSTLY (NOT ALL) relative. but more the point i was trying to make is that those who believe they have to exercise evil to "succeed" are miserable souls right here on earth, just as much as those who toddle through life being "good" all the time without enjoying themselves (exORcising evil to succeed).

evil is part of the trip. what would a life of all good look like? not sure and not sure i would like it either! since many of the things i enjoy are considered 'sinful' by plenty...

ami "kindly" refers to me as a lost soul, do i care? does that make me evil? does the fact that she was born again make her better or wiser than me? does her talking down to me make HER evil?

i think life in a world that includes evil is...life. most people's evil is temporary/occasional, and serves to make them strive to be better. most people we see as mainly evil think they are "doing good"!!

but for evil to WIN it must destroy itself in the process, one way or another.

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posted November 24, 2012 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, that answered my primary question.

But what I'm still confused on is why would evil have to destroy itself to win?

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posted November 28, 2012 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

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posted January 07, 2013 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

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posted January 09, 2013 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Well, one of the gifts Christ gave to mankind was peace and not as the world gives it, but as He gives it to us.

Learned a long time ago, no point getting worried or frantic.

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posted January 16, 2013 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry pixie, couldn't find this thread when i looked earlier!

what i am trying to say may be better illustrated by a metaphor.

call cancer evil. it eats up everything in its path, no? but when cancer WINS, it destroys its host, and therefore itself.

evil may seem to get the upper hand sometimes, and many individual hosts are consumed, but for evil to outright win, it would deprive itself of "good" to destroy.

does that make sense?

so i don't see how we can ever have a world with ALL good or all evil. they both grow in the presence of the other. evil helps us decide to be good (or not). good is often blind enough to sacrifice itself to evil. and often when people try too hard to be ALL good, they create evil effects by treading on others' freedom to choose.

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This chip is the mark of the beast. It will be voluntary, at first. Then, people who take government services like food stamps will have to take it. At some point, everyone will or they will be killed, but that will be in the Tribulation, which is not here, yet. It is "funny" that the mode of killing will be beheading.

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The plan is to chip children "to prevent them from getting lost or kidnapped." If you don't, you are a bad parent. It will be voluntary, but if you refuse, you can't take a tax deduction for them. What happens if you chip all children? In one generation, all of society will be chipped.

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posted January 18, 2013 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
sorry pixie, couldn't find this thread when i looked earlier!

what i am trying to say may be better illustrated by a metaphor.

call cancer evil. it eats up everything in its path, no? but when cancer WINS, it destroys its host, and therefore itself.

evil may seem to get the upper hand sometimes, and many individual hosts are consumed, but for evil to outright win, it would deprive itself of "good" to destroy.

does that make sense?


I believe the majority of people are selfish, neither strongly disposed toward good or evil, and thus imagining an evil society is hypothetical, though plenty of societies did come close, some lasting a long time.

Evil philosophers do exist (though complicated, as many didn't consider themselves evil, but rather "civilized"), and if it were reduced to its barest form (without apology) then it would be that society was strengthened by preying on the weak. And there are some say that these are the values that gave us civilization, the most successful pirates & warlords founding dynasties that offer stability not for any quaint notion of justice but because it's in the best interest of economic, political, and military dominance, and they'll crush crusading and rebellious do-gooders as much as bandits trying to get a piece of the action. Civilization was born by the strong eliminating the weak, the competent beating the incompetent, and the clever outsmarting the stupid. The inevitable battles in many forms (such as colonization to increase resources, including slaves) allowed the strongest to ascend, and wars also promoted invention (in engineering, medicine, and even long distance mail which were first used by evil conquerors as well as in weapons), with many military projects eventually spreading to the rest of society (btw, the internet we're using was once a military secret, and many interstate highways in the USA were created first & foremost to facilitate the movement of military vehicles).

Then, such a philosopher would say, a bunch of people decided that these very values that gave birth to our society should be replaced with the philosophy that the weak should inherit the world, the justice reign instead of strength, and that the weak be protected by the strong which messed everything up as the weak and undeserving dragged the strong down (of course this came about to fool the gullible into obeying, but after a few generations society really began to believe it). The weak spread instead of being weeded out as they should've been for the good of the species, and like children who never outgrow the teat they demanded the strong take care of them, were never satisfied, and then take the credit for the power and society the strong & smart provided, which not only allowed weakness to spread, but encouraged it (why make yourself strong if there's no need to struggle?). People became mousy, content, lazy, like fat, neutered cats, and instead of cream rising to the top the strong & ruthless were restrained resulting in our decadent, wishy washy society just ripe for the type of evil (ruthless, and made strong through struggle, the weakest links weeded out making them all stronger, and willing to do whatever it takes to win without regard to mercy or fairness) that gave birth to our civilization to take it over. History bears this out as the ruthless and most militaristic brutally assimilated, and sometimes utterly annihilated, peaceful and compassionate civilizations.

So, says this hypothetical philosopher (though I've seen philosophies and manifestos that say similar things as this), people should concern themselves with power, self-gratification (but with impulse control, the controlled flame burns the longest), exploitation of the weak and weak-willed, and ignoring manipulative and often hypocritical moral codes (after all, in a street fight the one who fights fair almost never wins). The weak must not be coddled or shown mercy, and the strong must not be restrained...and btw, in case it sounds like something from the Star Trek Evil Universe (the ep where Spock has a beard), here's something Andre Bauer said in regards to providing school meals for free or at reduced prices for kids of poor families even though hungry kids can't learn that well (and not caring that he once benefited from such programs himself):

"My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals. You know why? Because they breed," Bauer said, according to the Greenville News. "You're facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply. They will reproduce, especially ones that don't think too much further than that. And so what you've got to do is you've got to curtail that type of behavior. They don't know any better."

There are many who support such sentiments.

If such became the basis for society (again, and perhaps might've happened if Nazi Germany got the atomic bomb first, which they very well could've if they hadn't scared Einstein away to America) then we would no longer have a society of exchanged favors as we do now in our selfish society, nor one of compassion and peaceful aid as in one based on goodness, but instead one based on personal power and proving one's self useful to someone more powerful still for protection (and a share in the spoils). There would be no trust, instead it would be a society based on fear, including that of the faction aligned with, and where people did all they could to hide any weakness. This could be chaotic & piratical like Somalia, or lawful and orderly like Nazi Germany or the Romans, but in any case the primary rule for society would be "do unto others BEFORE they do unto you." While nuclear strikes would be much more likely (after all, fear & terror win), being smart & diabolical include knowing that you can't have people to enslave & exploit if you destroy them, it would still require outright insanity to create a true nuclear holocaust (and, says an evil philosopher, the insane would be weeded out early on), and while one toppling tyrant could easily order massive strikes (though in a society that respected brute force such a tyrant wouldn't likely be attacked in such a way as to invite a nuclear strike), more likely his followers, sensing their master being ripped down, would instead switch loyalties to the one who proved to be stronger.

IOW, the way I see it a society could become dominated by an evil philosophy could be ruthlessly efficient, able to conquer the more merciful societies (unless they're really small, and even small evil powers like the Axis of WW2 have given the rest of the world a huge black eye before they were put down, and evil tactics were usually used in the process by the less evil powers to win), and not destroy itself...though granted, people like me would not care to live in it. But evil people who'd believe in the rightness of such a society would have no problem making sure I didn't, considering ME the cancer to be excised from society before the "weak" could drag it down (or given my Sag energy, maybe just to make an example out of me for criticizing the Great Leader since strength comes from fear).

Oh, hey, that just reminds me...one of my favorite cartoons (I think it's funny, a brilliant satire of spy & superhero genres and even pop culture, as well as well written, and btw if the beefed up mole rat sounds familiar he's voiced by Dorn, who plays Worf in Star Trek: NG and DS9) did this ep taking place in an evil future society:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3RyHTcCtBc

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posted January 18, 2013 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The plan is to chip children "to prevent them from getting lost or kidnapped." If you don't, you are a bad parent. It will be voluntary, but if you refuse, you can't take a tax deduction for them. What happens if you chip all children? In one generation, all of society will be chipped.


I heard they are gonna go after people who get food stamps and other government assistance, as these people can be manipulated, quite easily. They will not get assistance without the chip.

What surprises me are the few people who relate it to Bible Prophecy. The mark of the beast is known to most people. What do you think, Randall?

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posted January 18, 2013 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I away from prophecy and just look at the facts. The chip has already been produced.

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@ PJ, i understand what you are saying but i believe it will always be impossible for either side to "win". yin and yang if you like. evil will always bring out the BEST in some people even while crushing the majority. and all evil governments have been eviscerated largely from within for that very reason. we house BOTH within us and the scale is always tipping one way or another. a lot of people are now so fed up with dishonesty and greed that they are turning in the other direction toward honour and responsibiity for themselves if not for everyone.

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as these people can be manipulated, quite easily. They will not get assistance without the chip.

Why do you believe poorer people are more easily manipulated than the middle class or wealthy?

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I away from prophecy and just look at the facts. The chip has already been produced.


Yep, at some point in time, it will be mandatory.

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posted January 18, 2013 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami Anne

Why do you believe poorer people are more easily manipulated than the middle class or wealthy?



I didn't mean that. I meant that food stamps etc will only be given if they comply with the chip.

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