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I'm so cappy
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posted March 30, 2013 12:14 PM
  
Why would a supreme being need it? Such a craving would indicate the presence of ego which doesn't make sense since God is perfect. Or at least waaaay closer to perfection than us. Ego is a human thing. Of course there's nothing wrong about loving it (The Source) and being grateful but thinking that we are expected to worship it and if we don't it will get will get angry is plain stupid. What do YOU think?------------------
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Lexxigramer
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posted March 30, 2013 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Why would a supreme being need it? Such a craving would indicate the presence of ego which doesn't make sense since God is perfect. Or at least waaaay closer to perfection than us. Ego is a human thing. Of course there's nothing wrong about loving it (The Source) and being grateful but thinking that we are expected to worship it and if we don't it will get will get angry is plain stupid. What do YOU think?
A true God would NOT need or desire worship.
Any so called "god", especially the self proclaimed jealous vengeful types are NOT gods.
Most were made up by those who wanted power over the naive uneducated people.
There are billions and billions of galaxies out there with trillions of stars and planets;
and if there is a one creator;
then it has better things to do than mess in the affairs of humans and all.
I theorize most so called gods are a product of human imagination.
Other theories are these faux gods were aliens that ignorant superstitious humans were fooled by.
The Hubble Deep Field: The Most Important Image Ever TakenAnd folks think a God or the Universe gives a damn about this planet,
(((in respect to silly prayers for winning a game...a war....getting a date...yadda yadda yadda...)))
and is on call to stop everything just to answer such mundane often selfish or evil request prayers and all, and that we are uber special.....
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Padre35
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posted March 30, 2013 01:09 PM
Man's nature is to worship, though in NT usually it revolved around a miracle.In corporate worship, to me, it is wherever the Spirit leads, this is one area I do believe the Quakers are spot on. Needless to say the choir holds no charm for me at least. What the scripture does say is that the Lord is to be acknowledged in all things. IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted March 30, 2013 01:16 PM
I worship no entity.
Especially an insecure raving lunatic murderous destructive insane kind of being/entity threatening people if they do not worship him.
I do not believe in a biblical god;
so no sense in my beating my head against your beliefs.
I do feel LORD etc. after Genesis 1 was an evil insane entity;
assuming he existed at all.
And again, if he ever existed;
the God of first Genesis may have been one true god in a way,
but the universe is beyond big,
and any god-like being;
would had to been a local thing,
not a universal one god all omnipotent thing.
A true god has no need for us.
A true god would know that to say one is all knowing all wise and omnipotent;
is ridiculous.
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Padre35
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posted March 30, 2013 01:35 PM
Lexxi, from my pov, the non canonical, but very instructive Wisdom of Solomon comes to mind"..if they had the mind to to speculate about the nature of the universe, why did they never find the Lord of all things?" So for myself, I find it all passing curious IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted March 30, 2013 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by Padre35:
Lexxi, from my pov, the non canonical, but very instructive Wisdom of Solomon comes to mind"..if they had the mind to to speculate about the nature of the universe, why did they never find the Lord of all things?" So for myself, I find it all passing curious
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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
Not clear on what your are saying.
there is no god or there is a god to find in yours and Solomon's pov.
And he was no more wise than many;
he simply was wealthy enough to have it written down. 
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Originally posted by Padre35:
I do have a tendency to speak a bit cryptically Wisdom of Solomon, that chapter, speaks to the curious ability of mankind to see the glory of creation, but never find a Creator. As for Yahweh (I am that I am) being psychotic, the potter can always break the pot so to speak.
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Lexxigramer
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posted March 30, 2013 01:45 PM
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I'm so cappy
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posted March 30, 2013 03:20 PM
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Especially an insecure raving lunatic murderous destructive insane kind of being/entity threatening people if they do not worship him.
I do not believe in a biblical god
If that Jehovah freak exists, it must be an evolved demonic entity. Which would be kinda funny - Christians and Jews worshipping a demon
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Lexxigramer
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posted March 30, 2013 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by Padre35:
I do have a tendency to speak a bit cryptically Wisdom of Solomon, that chapter, speaks to the curious ability of mankind to see the glory of creation, but never find a Creator. As for Yahweh (I am that I am) being psychotic, the potter can always break the pot so to speak.
Still being cryptic 
So what mold do you say Yahweh can break and what potter is he?
He is the lunatic faux god under just one of his names along with LORD God; and many other names he went by.IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted March 30, 2013 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
If that Jehovah freak exists, it must be an evolved demonic entity. Which would be kinda funny - Christians and Jews worshipping a demon
It is definitely crazy.
But what do you expect of religion(s) that damn most of humanity for not believing as they do; and desire the end of the world;
and who down through history took by force what they wanted because their god told them to take it.
Yeah;
in the so called holy books;
LORD God, Jehovah, whatever name he used, there were many;
is depicted as dark smoke, fire dark clouds, and other very hellish images, not very good godlike at all.
Yes indeed;
they worship the evil faux god.
No sense in arguing with them though.
They are blind to the truth even when it is set right in front of them. http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm
Pity them.
Let them;
(the rabid ones who preach hellfire and brimstone and desire Armageddon with a sick salacious kind of perverse pious glee)
continue to damn most of humanity
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Mblake81
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posted March 30, 2013 07:41 PM
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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2013 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Why would a supreme being need it? Such a craving would indicate the presence of ego which doesn't make sense since God is perfect. Or at least waaaay closer to perfection than us. Ego is a human thing. Of course there's nothing wrong about loving it (The Source) and being grateful but thinking that we are expected to worship it and if we don't it will get will get angry is plain stupid. What do YOU think?
WE need to worship him to be in the proper place with respect to Him. Only then can we be truly happy.
God needs nothing from us but He created us because He wanted someone to fellowship with and more especially someone to love.
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posted April 02, 2013 09:58 PM
Idol worship is one of the reasons I was turned off to a group I belonged to. The person they were idolizing even taught against doing such a thing, but I guess they missed the memo on that teaching.I don't think "god" wants worship either. But rather to awaken to what is True within each of us. Not worship anything we think is outside of ourselves, but rather look inside and recognize the divine spark within and grow from there. IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted April 02, 2013 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by T:
Idol worship is one of the reasons I was turned off to a group I belonged to. The person they were idolizing even taught against doing such a thing, but I guess they missed the memo on that teaching.I don't think "god" wants worship either. But rather to awaken to what is True within each of us. Not worship anything we think is outside of ourselves, but rather look inside and recognize the divine spark within and grow from there.
 I find in interesting that
GOD WITHIN
Anagrams to:
HI GOD TWIN
and;
GOD HIT WIN
and;
IN WITH GOD LOL....a few more;
some silly: HIDING TWO
DOG WITHIN
DOING WITH
HID ON TWIG
I DOTH WING For those who do not know what an Anagram is:
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A word, phrase, or name formed by rearranging the letters of another
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felngfrogy
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posted April 03, 2013 09:33 AM
I am wondering why people seem to be stagnic in their thinking and not allow their views to transform? It seems some believe whole heartliy in one god and one way and others steer so far from it yet both see 2 different aspect of the truth and can't find balance...balancing both views of light and dark...I see both ends of and believe in both ends...I did look into the dark bible...not very different from my own truth that came from my soul...just because some believe in god and the message that jesus brought doesn't mean we all believe that the bible is 100% accurate...I mean that would be proposterious to think that many people have the same view...that is why the denominaltional churches are failing and nondemoninational are on the rise...beliefs are changing...its in ones own perseption how they view the world and that stems from their own hurt or happiness...either way its all apart of creation...I look at god as not an entity but as an energy and from his energy pours forth all creation...science has proved we are all made up of protons, nuetrons, electrons, etc...everything is...so as a star is energy I am the same...im manifested differently for my purpose at this moment in time...next time I may decide to go to another galaxy all together. But here in this experience with all the lies, abuse, hidden truths, as a spiritual being who knows the truth urges my physical being to find a way to get the ego out of the way...your ego is more the challenge within your self than the outside challenges...to me jesus came to show that god was not the fearing god people were believing in, he was a god of compassion, mercy, forgivness...he just brought to one nation a way to conqueror the ego and find your true light and that is his purpose to come here, not die for our sins but to show us when we die there is life beyond...so why worry about today...just as a flower doesn't worry about its food or the animals don't worry about shelter we too are not to worry...our energy is but the same and will be cared for. Man has brought about this power hunger, not the creator, not jesus. Jesus knew this would be and truth would be left out and he found a way to send his message to all...and as far as is the bible the only one? Can't be, too many civilizations dispute it...its a great tool for a certain mind, but not all correct. Its full of different symbolism defined by ones perception...every gospel doesn't have the exact story, they contradict eachother...doesn't mean it didn't happen it means people pay attention to different things. Life has been on this planet way longer than the bible says...that's cause people aren't reading the layers. So who really cares what books are hidden and what lies are told because the truth is in ones soul, all knowledge can be discovered from knowing your soul and this experience is but a mere hologram of your mind...with out your mind you would not exist, so this planet has more to do with learning how to get out of your own way...this is my perception on life and because I believe jesus had a message im a christian but because you want to define me as a christian doesn't mean we all believe one way...many of us are open to the same concepts of the dark bible we just choose to accept it and follow jesus and find our own unique design and live through that perception vrs giving a damn about what's not revealed because man created this hurdle for your mind to process life through, they created that out of power, greed, blah blah, and im not about that so im not giving them strength by keeping my mind under lock and key, which I own. no one else imprison me but me...no church, no book, no law. Does want to be worshiped no, he wants to be known through you...IP: Logged |
T
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posted April 03, 2013 09:41 AM
I wish I had the patience to read your posts. They are very blocky. Are you posting from a cell phone? IP: Logged |
T
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posted April 03, 2013 09:45 AM
Thanks Lexx. That was neat. IP: Logged |
felngfrogy
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posted April 03, 2013 09:56 AM
Yes i am and what is blocky? And yes lexxi has a very intriguing mind...I do love her view on life I just wish shed be more open to a person who views jesus as a way of life vrs a savior...and ami to be more open to someone like lexxi who has such an opened mind! IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted April 03, 2013 12:05 PM
man's nature is to commune with the divine, whatever that is. not necessarily to "worship" but to feel his connection to all that is. this is harder in urban areas but can be done even there, if one "loves one's neighbour as thyself...in nature only someone completely focussed in his mind can fail to feel that connection...but no, we don't need "him" - and to my mind that is one of the main branches of jesus' teaching, along with most religions! that the Kingdom of Heaven is Within. "the least among you can do as i do" and god doesn't need our worship of "him" either. how could "god' be so petty as to look to us for validation? IP: Logged |
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posted April 03, 2013 12:16 PM
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felngfrogy
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posted April 03, 2013 12:40 PM
I agree with that statement katonic…jesus did preach of the heavenly kingdom within...The religious I've been associated with don't really teach to turn with in and find answers, its to turn to god and accept you are a sinner and jesus dies for those sins. I don't believe this side of a church, so I chose not to belong to denominational church. It doesn't feel right within for me. Heaven represents to me a state of mind of equality and love and acceptance. Not necessarily an actual kingdom. I do feel we do go some where when we leave this dimension just not sure where. And i feel we all get there regardless of our belief here. IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted April 03, 2013 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by felngfrogy:
Yes i am and what is blocky? And yes lexxi has a very intriguing mind...I do love her view on life I just wish shed be more open to a person who views jesus as a way of life vrs a savior...and ami to be more open to someone like lexxi who has such an opened mind!
Thank you for the kind words.
However due to vivid past life memories, well memories from many many many past lives;
memories that began flooding my mind when I was only a little over a year old;
I simply cannot view Jesus/Yeshua the way others do.
As iQ said of me;
I do have intense past lives' recall.
I am able to back much of them up historically and more.
However my lives are no ones business except mine, unless I choose to share.
Suffice it to say;
I cannot think of Yeshua as others do;
and I hate how this good kind man is used by people to promote things he did not condone.
I cannot think of him as simply Yeshua/Issa and some other very cool nicknames I shan't list. 
Well, I just cannot think of him as simply Yeshua/Issa
and or;
"The Wandering Teacher"
and or;
"The Silk Road Mystic"
and so forth;
because he has reincarnated so very many times in many countries before and after his Yeshua incarnation.
So when folks say they talk to him and pray to him et cetera;
I am like huh? 
I just do not believe them at all.
I cannot.
Call me nutters.
But this thinking began when I was only barely a toddler, some 1 and 1/2 years old, or less.
I recall one of the the first memories was at Christmas when I was 13 1/2 months old.
Out of the mouth (or minds)of babes cometh wisdom that can often rival those of aged sages.
So for now I will stick with what my little child mind saw in dreams, visions, memories;
but did not understand until I was old enough to grasp the very adult memories that flooded my young mind.
The finding the reality, the truth in it all has been my quest all my life to date.
I have said more than I wanted to here,
but have become tired of folks trying to tell me what to believe, especially since they have no idea what my personal experiences have been to date.
On that note;
Namaste`
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posted April 03, 2013 04:27 PM
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Thanks Lexx. That was neat.
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Lexxigramer
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posted April 03, 2013 04:31 PM
felngfrogy
By the way;
The Dark Bible
IS PART OF THE ACTUAL BIBLES.
Not sure whether you realized that.
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felngfrogy
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posted April 03, 2013 07:35 PM
Lexxi thank you for sharing part of your story...that is a fascinating part of life I would love to explore in myself and you are so blessed to recall those memories. And with your experience I can completely understand how you would see the world. If I were in your shoes id have no choice but to feel the same. I do believe jesus was nothing more than a man like you and I who had many lives as well, I use his light with in to follow only because, as much as I love my parents, they did not show me a loving way of life, or give me good tools for my tool box. I had no good example so I choose to see jesus as an example. Its really worked in my life but not in a religious sence.. When I went to a methodist church and what they taught, I couldn't find any better way through him. I too felt inside he was but a man like me and I was lead to a spiritual church and there I found home in my heart. And jesus has been a blessing, like having that sweet grandparent to care for you when no one else would or could. That is what he is in my life, a parent I never had. Not a savior or what the religions proclaim himto be. I did know there are many missing books and have read some. They to me are interesting and as valid to read as the bible. All perception should be viewed equally and should be known for all to explore. I am wondering, if you don't want to answer that's fine, is there a way one can remember there past lives? I feel through dreams and thoughts I sometimes get moments of memory but nothing that is concrete like experiences and names, just places or feelings like I know your soul more than I know my current me. And on that note,
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